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Four million Brits suffer from toilet phobia
The Daily Mail ^ | November 11, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:54:47 AM PST by MadIvan

At least four million Britons suffer from debilitating toilet phobias and most are too embarrassed to seek help, the National Phobics Society (NPS) said.

The NPS, which works with people affected by anxiety disorders, has classified the "secret" problem of toilet phobia as an anxiety condition in its own right and is launching a new campaign to help sufferers.

Toilet phobias range from a mild dislike of public loos to obsessions where sufferers refuse to leave their homes or even undergo potentially life-saving medical examinations.

The NPS said extreme sufferers are often unable to leave their homes, deny themselves fluids which can harm their kidneys, or take drugs to prevent any perceived or real "accidents."

The organisation argues the medical profession needs educating about toilet phobia in order to encourage sufferers to come forward and hopes its new campaign will go some way to tackling the issue.

The NPS believes that the stigma surrounding the phobia means that many people refuse to admit they have a problem.

"It is known as the 'secret' or 'silent' phobia because of its double whammy impact," said Nicky Lidbetter, manager of the NPS, which is launching the Toilet Phobia campaign at the Anxiety Disorders Conference in Manchester on Saturday.

"Few people will talk about having an anxiety disorder in the first place, but for them to admit they have a toilet-related phobia is rare because of the obvious embarrassment and humiliation of being laughed at or not being taken seriously."

"But, no matter how funny we might find it, it's certainly no laughing matter for almost seven per cent of the population who are reported to suffer from this condition."

The NPS has identified a correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) linked to a fear of contamination, Agoraphobia, Paruresis ("shy bladder" syndrome or fear of urinating in the company of others) and Parcopresis ("bashful bowel" syndrome, or the inability to defecate in public toilets).

They are collectively known as toilet-related phobias.

The problem can have serious implications for employers with absenteeism from work.

Many sufferers will not take a job if a toilet is located off a communal area and they can be observed going in or out, and will even create fictions of going to the photocopier or the staff kitchen rather than be seen going into the toilet, the NPS said.

Clinical psychologist and cognitive behaviour therapist, Professor Paul Salkovskis, said the attitude of society in general towards going to the toilet was part of the problem.

"Around the world we use a lot of humour and euphemism to describe what is a basic human function," he said.

"We say 'I'm going to the bathroom' or 'I'm going to powder my nose' because there is a taboo surrounding using the toilet."

Treatments include cognitive behaviour therapy, which helps people to break the cycle of faulty thinking, and hypnosis, which utilises techniques such as visualisation and guided imagery to bring about relaxation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: greatbritian; phobia; snakesinthepot; stingraysinthepotty; toilet; uk
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To: MadIvan

This just in:

4 million toilets have brit-ophobia.


101 posted on 11/11/2006 7:45:13 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: MadIvan
The NPS, which works with people affected by anxiety disorders, has classified the "secret" problem of toilet phobia as an anxiety condition in its own right and is launching a new campaign to help sufferers.

Well the new campaign ads should be interesting to see LOL!

102 posted on 11/11/2006 7:45:57 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Are you his fat wife?


103 posted on 11/11/2006 7:47:19 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I was wondering how long it would take you to find this one...


104 posted on 11/11/2006 7:47:50 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MadIvan
Of course the one item that raises a particular question is if people are too shy to seek help for this problem, how do you know there are 4 million of them?

The same folks counted 600,000 dead Iraqis and 11 million illegal US immigrants.

105 posted on 11/11/2006 7:50:05 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

My spies are everywhere.


106 posted on 11/11/2006 7:51:01 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: MadIvan
If they did a little further research I think they would find this is not a problem for homosexuals, they seem very comfortable with using their orifices.
107 posted on 11/11/2006 7:53:46 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: MadIvan
A Guide to Proper Etiquette in the Men's Restroom.

Although they did forget the all-important "courtesy flush".

108 posted on 11/11/2006 7:55:56 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: Slings and Arrows

Almost pinged you myself...


109 posted on 11/11/2006 7:56:35 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Mrs Ivan; MadIvan

LOL!!


Hey Mr. Ivan, you really lucked out getting a conservative wife, and with such a great sense of humor to boot!


110 posted on 11/11/2006 7:59:20 AM PST by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: MadIvan


One wonders if Brits see more of him on BBC than Americans do on ABC.


111 posted on 11/11/2006 8:03:13 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: coop71
I emphasize with this I am somewhat similar as well. Like you I will use the en-suite facilities at a hotel but nothing else.
112 posted on 11/11/2006 8:05:29 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

So does snugs but then I would extend it to American ones as well.

In fact at least UK ones are at a reasonable height American ones are so low the first time I used one I nearly fell off it.


113 posted on 11/11/2006 8:07:26 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: kinoxi

Could this have anything to do with the rise in the Muslim population in England? I understand that Muslims have some weird toilet habits too.


114 posted on 11/11/2006 8:07:59 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: MadIvan

Thats cruel at least I pick them up and put them outside but I agree with bit about the muslims terrorists though


115 posted on 11/11/2006 8:08:35 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: coop71
men just go wherever there's a toilet - no shame, no embarrassment.
116 posted on 11/11/2006 8:24:40 AM PST by OSHA (I am become OSHA, destroyer of beers.)
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To: MadIvan

I was in France when I was a wee tyke, and of all the things there are to remember about France, I recall the public toilets the most. I remember asking my mom how people put up with that. Aside from the NYC subway, which is one giant toilet, public facilities in the US are pretty good.


117 posted on 11/11/2006 8:34:53 AM PST by kylaka
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Almost pinged you myself...

When see something within the NAPL or KPL mandates (or just interesting), please do - I need all the intel I can get.

118 posted on 11/11/2006 8:39:27 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: TET1968
My company has been selling to China for over 20 years and the stories that the commissioning engineers tell about the facilities there would make your hair curl.

The first plant they commissioned they had to build their own toilet block as the Chinese one was barely a hole in the ground and as for a building what building.
119 posted on 11/11/2006 8:52:25 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: TET1968

Compared with what some of our commisioning engineers had to put up in the sticks in the early days that would be luxury.


120 posted on 11/11/2006 8:53:26 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

Always wondered why there were so few Brits on the Oregon Trail..


121 posted on 11/11/2006 8:54:11 AM PST by onehipdad (Praying for the enlightenment of dumba$$ liberals everywhere....)
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To: MadIvan
"It is known as the 'secret' or 'silent' phobia because of its double whammy impact,"...

Often times "toilet phobia" is augmented by "oral phobia" which can lead to "silent phobia" but not necessarily contained to "silent phobia".

Some have been stricken with "dog do phobia" which is the avoidance of dog do because of their other phobia's impact on them and also some have been stricken with "bear phobia" because well, we all know what bears do in the woods, and in some extreme cases some have been stricken with "plumber phobia" which is the avoidance of having plumbing repaired, however the most prevalent off shot phobia is the phobia many acquire for the numbers 1 and 2.

We need some serious government investment in this phenomena before it destroys civilization as we know it.

122 posted on 11/11/2006 8:54:40 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: MadIvan; UltraKonservativen

Reminds me of Wembley Stadium and the underground station before and after the FA Cup Final


123 posted on 11/11/2006 8:55:58 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: Gumdrop

I am not good with public loos but the receptionist at work is even worse there are some events she will not go to because of it.


124 posted on 11/11/2006 8:57:00 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

I agree


125 posted on 11/11/2006 8:59:01 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: KoRn
What is this tooth brush thing with Americans about the Brits most Brits I know are very particular about cleaning their teeth and dental hygiene.
126 posted on 11/11/2006 9:00:42 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan


***At least four million Britons suffer from debilitating toilet phobias and most are too embarrassed to seek help,***


Let me guess... These are the only toilets left that still face Mecca.


127 posted on 11/11/2006 9:01:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Out of the Hospital again! Glad I voted a week earlier!)
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To: Solamente
My dad tells the story of rats down the toilet when he was a child, they had a dog who was a ratter and she used to get hold of them by the throat and bash their heads against the wall till she killed them.
128 posted on 11/11/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan
I always say "I am going to the sh*t house, so talk loud or turn up the volume if you can't handle gross noises."

When I was younger I tried to not pee in the water when oneing it, but too often missed the commode completely. It finally dawned upon me that my host or hostess would rather listen to a few seconds on Niagara Falls than mopping up the great flood.
129 posted on 11/11/2006 9:07:09 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (We'll stop calling you liberals,liberals, as soon as a better word for "sh*t for brains" is coined.)
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To: Gorzaloon; coop71

This is an example of over pampering and national health care failures. When you have the federal government funding national health care, you can generate more funds by finding more "phobias" or problems.

As to over pampering, I see it in my niece and nephew. Their mother (college educated teacher, with a masters in special needs) sees everything her kids complain about as a potential catastrophe. She has trained them to believe many things (like they can't drink their milk cold, or the can't walk on the grass barefoot, etc.). Although, when the kids are left at our house for a few days, they either do it or do with out, but no pampering to reinforce their growing phobia's. Inside of 48 hours, most of their nonsense goes away, but as soon as mom shows back up, the phobias return.

To the people who say they "can't" use a public bathroom or go #2 in a public toilet, your wrong. The right phrase is "you refuse to use" not "can't." There is a big difference.


130 posted on 11/11/2006 9:14:04 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: san juan
Of course I giggle at fart jokes, don't you?

Regards, Ivan

131 posted on 11/11/2006 9:16:08 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Gorzaloon
Hahaha, I have SUCH a difficult time not responding to MY wife's posts on here! We have a truce about not bringing the threads home.

It is very hard, but today we are being extremely sad and sitting in the same room on different computers!

Do we use our wives to scare the spiders away so it is safe for us, thereby never seeing the dreaded Loo Spiders?

I am way too much of a chicken where spiders are concerned, I scream for help!

132 posted on 11/11/2006 9:36:10 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: HighWheeler

Thank you, that's sweet.


133 posted on 11/11/2006 9:37:26 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: MonroeDNA

Who are you and why are you asking such rude questions?


134 posted on 11/11/2006 9:38:15 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: coop71

I don't like going # 2 in a public toilet, as in a retail store or movie theater. Don't like a porta-potty for anything at all.

But as for while at work?

As one of my most beloved coworkers says: Don't sh*t on your time, don't work on *their* time. LOL!


135 posted on 11/11/2006 9:38:48 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (Suicide Bomb Instructor: "Now pay attention, I'm only gonna do this once...")
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To: MadIvan

Calling it a toilet is also going for the euphemism. It is a clo and has been since civilization arrived in the eastern Mediterranean.


136 posted on 11/11/2006 9:39:41 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Mrs Ivan; Gorzaloon
I am way too much of a chicken where spiders are concerned, I scream for help!

I can attest to that.

137 posted on 11/11/2006 9:42:23 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: MonroeDNA
"But, no matter how funny we might find it, it's certainly no laughing matter for almost seven per cent of the population who are reported to suffer from this condition."

You always KNOW when a truth is invented, when it is "Seven" of this, or "Seventy" of that.

A slow day in the newsroom.

a Google search reveals mostly UK origins, quack Herbal remedy nonsense, and this thing, on a UK equivalent of Geocities, etc.

http://home.freeuk.net/parcopresis/

138 posted on 11/11/2006 9:50:49 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: MadIvan

I have leporiphobia, fear of rabbits/hares, and I am proud of it. Those filthy war criminals.


139 posted on 11/11/2006 10:11:51 AM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: MadIvan
Toilet phobias range from a mild dislike of public loos

That's called 'normal.'

140 posted on 11/11/2006 10:12:46 AM PST by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
So long as George Michael is alive, yes.

Regards, Ivan

141 posted on 11/11/2006 10:13:52 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; ...
Is phobia plural or singular?

If plural, is the singular term phobium?




142 posted on 11/11/2006 10:43:36 AM PST by Lady Jag (Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid)
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To: Lady Jag

The only time I worry about a phobia such as this is when I fly..... I am not flying now so.... no prob. ;)


143 posted on 11/11/2006 10:45:59 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: MadIvan
If I had a nickel every single time someone said, "If I had a fiver everytime"..I'd be rich. British dental jokes ARE ALWAYS FUNNY CHEERS!


144 posted on 11/11/2006 10:46:46 AM PST by maineman
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To: Soaring Feather

That's singular!


145 posted on 11/11/2006 10:47:24 AM PST by Lady Jag (Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid)
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To: Lady Jag

Okay, I'm not very sharp now -time for a nap. Gloomy out not cold, just gloomy.


146 posted on 11/11/2006 10:49:36 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: SnarlinCubBear

Don't quote me on this....


147 posted on 11/11/2006 11:08:05 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: All

I thought about it until women started using their cellphones while sitting on the pot in public restrooms. Sheesh! What is with people? I'm tempted to download a gross fart ringtone and just play it continuously next time I'm seated next to a chatty pee-er. LoL Let them explain THAT one to their call buddy!


148 posted on 11/11/2006 11:31:54 AM PST by TNdandelion
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To: TNdandelion

SHould be "I NEVER thought about it..."


149 posted on 11/11/2006 11:32:12 AM PST by TNdandelion
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, it's easy to laugh, snort, and jeer at the potty-challenged, but how would you like to plop your buns down on one of these (from the UK):

Or just look at this alligator found in a Mississippi sewer last year:

We are talking about some serious butt munchers here, and I cite as my source the illustrous website toiletology. I rest my case, but not my buns.

150 posted on 11/11/2006 11:49:29 AM PST by xJones
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