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Posted on 11/11/2006 5:32:37 AM PST by jamesrichards
Democrats to 'revisit' law creating border fence By Shaun Waterman UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL November 11, 2006 Democrats will look again at the legislation mandating 698 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border and might seek to scrap the plan altogether when they take control of Congress next year. Rep. Bennie Thompson, Mississippi Democrat, told reporters this week that he expected to "revisit" the issue when he becomes chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee in the 110th Congress. Mr. Thompson said the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) new border enforcement program, known as the Secure Border Initiative or SBI Net -- which includes monitors, cameras and other integrated surveillance systems -- is a viable alternative to fencing. "We might do away with it, or look at [integrating it into] SBI Net," he said. "A virtual fence rather than a real one."
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IIRC, one of the times Bush tried to pass the shamesty, the Dims stopped him. The Dims claim was that he wasn't addressing all the OTMs. Bush wants it for Mexicans only. Wasn't the "Comprehensive" plan for Mexicans only?
Dems and Acorn registered MILLIONS of Illegal hispanics this year, and it put them over the top...
Anyone who believed Democrats would do ANYTHING about illegal immigration was singing out of thier a__...
They NEED poor, welfare recieving people to support them.
Not one mile of fence will ever be built.
I can't wait to see how the Democrats will go about giving non-citizens the right to vote.
RE: Post #43. Couldn't have said it beetter myself.
I don't recall that. Certainly Bush's guest worker program appears to be meant for Mexicans. The Dems have been smart enough to put a Rep label on comprehensive immigration reform despite the fact that the overwhelming Rep members of Congress [House and Senate] are against it. It is really a Dem/WH initiative.
It was Bush that signed the authorization for the fence as well.
Thank the single issue voters that allowed a Democrat House to take over.
Had the GOP remained in control of the House, the fence would have been built, since Bush signed the Bill.
The RNC withheld backing of the Republican running for Congress here in Arizona (AZ-8). The Republican, Randy Graf, lost to a Democrat who was a board member of the local ACLU. The Democrat is in favor of Amnesty.
Perhaps its not a bad idea for the Democrats to try and impeach George Bush.
Well, at least they can say they taught the GOP a lesson for not being pure enough. Of course, in the process the damage to the country is considerable. But they can sit back smug and happy (as their taxes go up and the danger to our troops increases).
I have not seen anyone discussing New York. Democrats gained all top statewide offices on the ballot - governor, attorney general, comptroller and a U.S. Senate seat - for the first time since 1942.
East of the Appalachian Mountains Republicans are becoming nonexistent.
I'll try to find an article describing what I think was the first attempt at amnesty by Bush.
I did find an article prior to 9/11 that is interesting. This article was dated 08/2001. Bush has been pushing this for years even after Mexico slapped him in the face regarding 9/11.
What this will accelerate is the transformation of the US into the South American model - more and more gated communities with high fences and armed security guards. Those who can afford it will be protected, the rest will will have to make their way in a dangerous and dirty society.
I'm not sure what your purpose was in posting that quote from Mr. Jefferson.
But it affords me the opportunity to agree with him 100%.
Sort of like the old saying, Fences make good neighbors.
Sure, but thats not what we are talking about.
A bill granting amnesty and a guest worker program makes the "wall" about as useless as the runway behind you.
We've had 7 murders in 7 days.
At one time, it had the best schools, was one of a few high tech bases, had a magnificent beach AND you could even walk the streets.
I think the stat is that only 40% of kids graduate from high school. How much money is THAT down the drain?? The City is a major DEM stronhold and look what the people are that vote!!!
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson
There is no doubt that Bush has been pushing for a guest worker program for years and it should come as no surprise. It was part of his 2000 campaign. What boggles my mind is that he is bucking his own party undermining its position in the process. He is also bucking American public opinion.
You didn't "paraphrase" you "turned a phrase" or "turned a quote".
We'll end up with a 20 ft long picket fence.
Dane, you and those of your stripe, Bush, Rove, etc. did more to damage the republican party by driving out every conservative you could than Lou Dobbs ever could have. You keep saying he's a liar...WHAT has he lied about? Your problem is your extreme hate for ANYONE who wants to secure our borders. And everyone but you and your 2 cheerleaders seems to know it.
I challenged you on a another thread when you called Dobbs a liar. You didn't respond, but here you are spreading your propaganda yet again. Lou Dobbs has gone ofter the dems non stop over immigration and has done more to bring this problem to light than anyone. I think that is what disturbs you.
Again, all his words are in transcript. PROVE YOUR ACCUSATIONS.
It certainly wasn't Dobbs fault that the dems decided at the last minute to claim support for secure borders!
DOBBS: But it is instructive that people running for office at least -- while in office, they're ignoring the will of the people on this issue because poll after poll shows people want border security, they want port security, they want illegal immigration curtailed -- it's fascinating to see that Eighth District race in Arizona, where the Democratic candidate, who says she absolutely in support of comprehensive immigration reform -- is now talking about border security. It's quite an impressive turnaround, and it shows the importance of this issue in this election. SCHNEIDER: And we're finding all over the country that Democrats are taking a very hard line on the issue of border security, if they feel at all defensive on this issue, and they do in many places.
Oh, and lets not forget El Presidente Jorge Arabusto and his support for open borders.
"I think there must be an agreement whereby the Democrats rule the roost and the "moderate" Republicans look out for big business and screw the taxpayer. That way, all the big government types -- Republican and Democrat -- get what they want."
Expect to see something similar coming our way on healthcare as well; medicare, medicaid, tri-care, CHIPS, private market regs, all will be revamped to favor the big players.
It's exactly what I was talking about. The article was about democRATs revisiting the bill to build a wall. I commented that this will be a losing issue for the RATs because of public support for the wall. I never brought up amnesty nor was it in the article, you're the one who changed the subject.
Oh I don't know, maybe that he(louie dobbs) shouts that he is concerned about the border, and then coos like a little schoolgirl about open borders, nancy pelosi.
LOL! It was the House Republicans who stopped him.
Well anyway, one good thing about this election is that DUmmies like you are coming out of the closet.
You people are funny saying the RATs are going to dismantle this. Didn't you ever read Sen. John Cornyn's comments about how the fence bill was "just a gesture" and would "never be funded"? There are many many traitors on our side of the aisle.
Uh I ain't the one gloating over a nancy pelosi victory, it's your hero, louie dobbs, and his misguided minions on FR, such as you Roger.
Uh I guess you are illiterate, since it is the dems who are going to defund the fence.
SCREW THE NEW TONE. REPUBLICANS: GROW A SPINE.
See reply #59.
I'm about ready to vote for a virtual Congress.
Not everyone who disagrees with the way our party has conducted itself would vote democrat. You couldn't pay me enough...but I wanted to see our party act like it had the "mandate" we gave them. Instead they tried to be so "bipartisan" that they shot themselves (us) in the foot. Now that the rats have control, they are not even trying to be bipartisan, they are just working towards their agenda. THAT'S what our reps should have done.
Don't shoot the messengers. The GOP is reaping what it sowed.
If the legislation was so "meaningless" then why does nancy pelosi want to reverse it?
Can youy answer that dearie?
Naw, it was "true" conservatives like you, who have reaped what you sowed.
Like i said before, I have a clear conscience.
As a gesture of friendship to her great big new constituency from south of the border. That was easy.
You shoulda been with us on this border thing, Dane. In a few years the GOP will be going going gone.
So do, I, Dane. So do I.
You are clueless.
Well if having nancy pelosi as Speaker gives you a clear conscience, so be it.
He is blowing my mind also.
WASHINGTON - No sooner did Congress authorize construction of a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border last week than lawmakers rushed to approve separate legislation that ensures it will never be built, at least not as advertised, according to Republican lawmakers and immigration experts.
GOP leaders have singled out the fence as one of the primary accomplishments of the recently completed session. Many lawmakers plan to highlight their $1.2 billion down payment on its construction as they campaign in the weeks before the midterm elections. But shortly before recessing late Friday, the House and Senate gave the Bush administration leeway to distribute the money to a combination of projects -- not just the physical barrier along the southern border. The funds may also be spent on roads, technology and "tactical infrastructure" to support the Homeland Security Department's preferred option of a "virtual fence."
What's more, in a late-night concession to win over wavering Republicans, GOP congressional leaders pledged in writing that American Indian tribes, members of Congress, governors and local leaders would get a say in "the exact placement" of any structure, and that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff would have the flexibility to use alternatives "when fencing is ineffective or impractical."
The loopholes leave the Bush administration with authority to decide where, when and how long a fence will be built, except for small stretches east of San Diego and in western Arizona. Homeland Security officials have proposed a fence half as long, lawmakers said.
This case reflects political calculations by GOP strategists that voters do not mind the details, and that key players -- including the administration, local leaders and the Mexican government -- oppose a fence-only approach, analysts said.