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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 November 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 12 November 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/12/2006 4:58:59 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, November 12th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean; presidential counselor Dan Bartlett.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.; White House chief of staff Josh Bolten.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden. D-Del., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Bolten.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Bolten; Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz; Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guests; lineup; news; sunday; talkshows
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!!!!!!IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!!

I will not point fingers at anyone on our side for our loss on Tuesday, because I really don’t think we are to blame. I thought we would do better, frankly, but it appears we just couldn't get it over the goal line before time ran out. In many cases, the victory/defeat line was only a few thousand votes apart. It’s not like we got a thumping, thrashing, or butt-kick. The only thing is how it will effect our country. That has a lot of us concerned more than how it happened.

In any case, you know who I blame…The drive by media. Their bias has been well documented on this thread. My wife and I were talking about it on the drive home from work. Neither of us could think of a way--beyond what we're doing (on this thread, for example)--to counter the media. We just have to keep doing what we’ve been doing for 8 years—only harder!!!

So folks, here is my challenge for the Sunday Morning thread for the next two years:

We need to be reporters on the reporters. We need to document their lies, distortions, smears, half-truths and omissions. We need to howl in their faces, and call them on it each and every time.

Will you join me?

I’m going to find a comprehensive media email list (someone has compiled and posted it before) to start sending out emails to the Sunday screaming faces with word-for-word transcriptions of what they said, and why it is biased. In the past I’ve sat here and typed about Tim Russert’s biased, hunched-over-questioning; this time I’m going to tell HIM about it. Timmy, you are on notice! Every frown, every hunch, every pudgy-fingered grasping your talking points memo while you interrogate Republicans will be documented and you will be called on it!!!!

(Insert John Belushi scream and flips out of chair, papers flying)

1 posted on 11/12/2006 4:59:01 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Please check out Phsstpok’s EXCELLENT Thread. Also, check out his blog!

2 posted on 11/12/2006 4:59:48 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

I'll cover MTP today. I just have to hear what Russert has to say.


3 posted on 11/12/2006 5:00:44 AM PST by Fury
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To: All
From FReeper Snugs’ graphics shop, here are last week's winners:







4 posted on 11/12/2006 5:00:56 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
We need to be reporters on the reporters. We need to document their lies, distortions, smears, half-truths and omissions. We need to howl in their faces, and call them on it each and every time. I'm in.
5 posted on 11/12/2006 5:01:28 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: All

AND, of course:

As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.


6 posted on 11/12/2006 5:01:31 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
We need to document their lies, distortions, smears, half-truths and omissions.

A columnist in a local paper was dismayed that a county south of us voted Repub for several offices. He made the accusation that they must have voted straight party line, and that they would have voted for Hitler or Mark Foley if they were on the ballot. I started working on a reply to this "columnist"...

7 posted on 11/12/2006 5:03:17 AM PST by Fury
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To: Alas Babylon!

I'm in and in total agreement.


8 posted on 11/12/2006 5:04:10 AM PST by chiller (Heaven help this republic..)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Morning all!

07:00 AM EST
0:30 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Open Phones
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
07:30 AM EST
1:00 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Political Party Issues
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Michael Steele , R, Maryland
Donna Brazile , Brazile & Associates
08:30 AM EST
0:30 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Democratic Campaign Strategy
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Naftali Bendavid , Chicago Tribune
09:00 AM EST
0:20 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Iraqi Election Reaction
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Steven Hurst , Associated Press
09:20 AM EST
0:40 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
International Election Reaction
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Salameh Nematt , Al Hayat
Tom Baldwin , Times, The, London

9 posted on 11/12/2006 5:05:55 AM PST by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Thanks AB & Good Morning to EveryOne!

Certainly I would agree with you, AB. I am really tired of people throwing stones at WH & the President. If anyone is to be blamed, it 's those so-called-conservatives who readily threw stones at the President & the party to promote their books & the Madrassa Media.

I would agree with MNJohnie said [elsewhere on this forum] - some people angry at WH as they got only 70% only ending up losing 100% now.

I think Samantha pointed out, McCain's CFR ended up a big blunder & loser and he should be punished for that. Democrats freemedia behaved like Pakistan's Madrassas indoctrinating bogus lies on the people 24 hours a day.

10 posted on 11/12/2006 5:07:19 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

On now!

07:30 AM EST
1:00 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Political Party Issues
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Michael Steele , R, Maryland
Donna Brazile , Brazile & Associates



11 posted on 11/12/2006 5:07:57 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: anita

Well thank you, Anita. Your media nuggets are a gem and are really what I'm talking about in the first place.

Continue to do what you do so well!


12 posted on 11/12/2006 5:09:30 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

A most excellent post, Alas Babylon! You have focused on the most important issue, indeed. For if we don't have the mainstream media accurately reporting both parties, and reporting the good and the bad about our nation's events, we truly don't have a free press afterall.


13 posted on 11/12/2006 5:09:39 AM PST by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Alright, I'm in.


14 posted on 11/12/2006 5:09:53 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: Fury
Last night, Russert opted that ...“given Rumsfeld's removal... doesn't this admit that Iraq is a failure?”
15 posted on 11/12/2006 5:10:11 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: NautiNurse
For if we don't have the mainstream media accurately reporting both parties, and reporting the good and the bad about our nation's events, we truly don't have a free press afterall.

I think we should raise the question of why, if the media is going to be so blatantly partisan now, they should get McCain-Feingold exemptions? Not as a way to get them restricted, but as a way to bring down McCain-Feingold.

16 posted on 11/12/2006 5:13:10 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Many more thoughts on the media. I despise the bastards. Despite high-minded conservative thought that says "the media is the media" and we have to live with it, I say BS.

First we demand congressional leaders who will challenge the drive-bys every damn day. Tony Snow is as close as we came last cycle. Rush and Co. have indeed carried their water for years and its time for them stand up.

Our candidates defenses were pathetic, granted, but Old Media cost us. The WaPo even admitted it, after 13 days of macaca stories.

the good news; some of our weakest links were exposed and eliminated and now the more aggressive, more conservative leadership may find its way to the leadership positions.

17 posted on 11/12/2006 5:13:10 AM PST by chiller (Heaven help this republic..)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
Thanks for the thread today and as usual your words of wisdom. I think we need to answer the question of why we lost last Tuesday.

Personally, I think we here at the New Media were out gunned by the old/drive-by media. They literally let a 6 year contract,mob style, on GWB and finally it was fulfilled.

It's a credit to the adm that they held the msm off for 6 years on the constant haranguing, distorting,lying spinning of every news story that came along while ignoring anything positive about the WOT. They used only stories that could be turned against the adm.

This is a totally unprecedented hit job on any adm in IMHO. If nothing else, the "drivers by" exposed who they really are in no uncertain terms this time around. Bottom line is that next time we need to be in charge and as AB said above we need to counter them at every corner.

Every time they spin, tell a lie or re- invent the truth we nee to be right there with an antidote. I would love to hear other opinions of why we lost Tuesday, if we get enough reasons we will win in 08 for sure.

18 posted on 11/12/2006 5:14:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Bahbah; DoctorMichael

An alternative to football this afternoon, Live on C-SPAN2:

12:00 PM EST
1:30 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Iraq
C-SPAN, BookTV
Paul Rieckhoff , Operation Truth
R. Alan King , Civil Affairs Battalion (Iraq)
Olson, Kimberly Colonel (Ret.), U.S. Air Force
Danelo, David J. Captain (Fmr.), U.S. Marine Corps
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.


02:00 PM EST
1:00 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Afghanistan
C-SPAN, BookTV
Sean Naylor , Army Times
Steven Pressfield
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.


19 posted on 11/12/2006 5:14:12 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: johnny7

As noted prior, the MSM still does wield a lot of influence. Russert is still a "big man", so to speak, and people listen to what he says. As AB says - point out their bias, distortions, etc.


20 posted on 11/12/2006 5:14:46 AM PST by Fury
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To: Alas Babylon!
The talking shows and the news programs were the worst I have ever seen, and I have been watching political news since the 60's.

However, should we get rid of all of them tomorrow, we still would have a problem, because liberalism controls academia, Hollywood, the music industry, and a fair chunk of the internet.

It is very hard to convince non-news people that your position is correct, when they know nothing of foreign affairs but their three favorite movie stars all trash Bush in every interview. About the only Republican immune from this is Arnold Schwartzenegger, because he got mega-famous before people found out he was a Republican.

21 posted on 11/12/2006 5:15:39 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
AB, I've been monitoring the local Fox channel here in the Tampa area,
and have been for a couple of years. They have been blatantly
biased since before Jeb won reelection against Bill McBribe. This
election cycle they were orgasmic over Davis the dem running
against Charlie Crist.

I'll focus on this bunch. It will be a pleasure to call
them on their outrageous behavior even to a greater
degree than I have.

TPD
22 posted on 11/12/2006 5:15:48 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()...On 9-11 & 7-7 Islamic missionaries came a callin'.....()
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To: Alas Babylon!
Very good point AB!
We complain to each other about media bias, and preach to the choir. It's time to rub their own noses in it.
These guys claim to be unbiased. If enough of us point out to them their biases, en masse, they, at least, will feel guilty claiming to be balanced.
23 posted on 11/12/2006 5:17:01 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: anita

Agree 100% anita, and the so-called conservatives who suck money from us like ticks on a dog, are even now BLAMING THE PRESIDENT for the loss. I am never buying another of their books, nor will I give their advertisers any money.


24 posted on 11/12/2006 5:17:55 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: johnny7
Last night, Russert opted that ...“given Rumsfeld's removal... doesn't this admit that Iraq is a failure?”

Troops Fear The Loss Of Rumsfeld

No, that is not the report by our Madrassa media. But the London Times (which opposed Iraq war) gives a fair account of interviews with out military commanders & soldiers without anonymous quotes.

25 posted on 11/12/2006 5:19:38 AM PST by anita
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To: Fury
Thanks!

The DBM does have one soft spot. It is their belief that they follow "journalistic ethics". They actually believe they're fair and balanced. They're quite arrogantly proud that they have "standards". It's part of their "save-the-world/liberal" worldview.

That is why it's so important to document them when they lie, distort, tell half the story, etc, and to point out when they're not covering an important story at all. We need to be there, with our evidence at hand, accusing them of unethical, unjournalistic behavior. It bugs them. If we go up against them by name, we just might bring them to heel.

But I believe we have to do this, one person at a time, one newspaper at a time, one channel, one broadcast, one editor. When we simply say the media is biased, they tsk tsk it away with their own so-called proof and statistics. They're quite good at distortion and changing the story. But if we have actual evidence, especially word-for-word, it becomes much, much harder to weasel out of the charge. And if we accuse them of journalistically unethical behavior (unethical cuts them to the quick), they might just think twice before they try again, especially if they know they're going to be called on it.
26 posted on 11/12/2006 5:19:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: anita; All
Great analysis Anita!
The msm/dbm/dnc had all their talking points in order, they seldom deviated, had conservative candidates all ready to run as dems and they pulled every trick out of their play book as well as a 6 year hit job on the adm. that finally jelled.

All it took was for a few of us to go soft--Boortz, Savage, wacky Pat,Rush-- attacking Michael J. Fox near the end and we did just enough to lose.
We need to have our act together next time and we will be unbeatable, but we cannot afford major dissension in the ranks.

We have to struggle to get conservative candidates whenever and wherever we can and take what we can get when a conservative candidate is not in the cards, if sending a message means losing, lets thinks twice about hitting the send button.

This election was a treatise on organization and control of the media.We were beaten by an opponent who mimicked us when he needed yet stood for nothing and were so weak they could not even elicit a party platform. Lets don't let that happen again.

27 posted on 11/12/2006 5:23:52 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: NautiNurse

Ping!!


28 posted on 11/12/2006 5:24:56 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

Thanks, Rod. We lead them by 30 seats in the House. Now, they lead by 29 seats. Out of those 29 seats, 23 seats were won by 1000 to 2700 votes. If our candidates stick to our party & President without "distancing" themselves, the results would have been different.


29 posted on 11/12/2006 5:29:52 AM PST by anita
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To: Miss Marple
Excellent post Miss Marple!
The only saving grace is that the msm is dying a slow but painful death. Their numbers are down each and every year and ours are growing.
People may seem as if they are in a malaise but once the DBM/DNC/rat paty begins to look more and more like the terrorists we are fighting even the dumbest of the dumb will start getting it, how fast is anyones guess.
30 posted on 11/12/2006 5:30:37 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: DoctorMichael; Alas Babylon!

07:30 AM EST
1:00 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Political Party Issues
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Michael Steele , R, Maryland
Donna Brazile , Brazile & Associates

&&&&&

Post #9 on this thread and we already have an example of bias. Donna Brazile gets listed with her title. LT GOVERNOR Michael Steele gets an R.

I am sick of calling CSPAN on these issues. I just illustrate this example to show that much of the bias is controlled by people not in front of the cameras (like Russert for example) but by the people who write the scrolls, or select the video images that go with a certain report, or who choose which camera angles to make live.

They all are of one mind and that mind is anti-conservative and anti-Bush administration.


31 posted on 11/12/2006 5:31:38 AM PST by maica (9/11 was not ?the day everything changed?, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: rodguy911
Personally, I think we here at the New Media were out gunned by the old/drive-by media.

I agree.

After RATher got away with his attempt to subvert an election, the rest of the commies saw it as a green light... hence the Wilson/Plame/DBM scam. Katrina, while not a scam, was another perfect example of redirecting blame for a states dereliction of duty.

Bottom line is that what was once an overt bias in reporting... has mutated into a covert-operations/propaganda machine for the Democrat-Socialist party. An alliance that embraces every enemy of America when a Republican resides in the White House.

32 posted on 11/12/2006 5:33:08 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: rodguy911
One thing I noticed that the Clintons did which Republican candidates should take a page from: product placement.

Did you ever wonder why Clinton continues to get high approval ratings? Earlier I talked about movie stars, etc. influencing the vote. The Clintons knew this, and they made use of that quite well.

During the Clinton years I quit reading news magazines and avoided shows where I thought he might appear. I read a lot of decorating and cooking magazines, non-political stuff.

I was astounded when Clinton started showing up in every place...House Beautiful carried Hillary on the cover (first time ever they carried someone's photo and not a room), they showed up in the movie magazines at the beauty shop, guested on TV comedies, and (my favorite) in an antique price mazagine which had currrent prices on cast-iron banks, the FEATURED photo was a BILL CLINTON PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE bank (which of course was not an antique)!

Those people who couldn't recognize a photo of Cheney when questioned on the street by Leno, knew who Bill CLinton was and had a vague impression he must be "cool."

And their votes count as much as ours.

33 posted on 11/12/2006 5:33:39 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: rodguy911

Good morning Rodguy! As much as I hate too, I'm going to watch MTP and eat my humble pie.

I honestly thought that enough of the nation would realize what was at stake and vote to keep the Republicans in control. I was wrong.

I think a lot of conservatives forgot the awful consequences of losing the majorities.


34 posted on 11/12/2006 5:34:59 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: anita

Excellent post, and exactly how I feel.


35 posted on 11/12/2006 5:36:08 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: maica

I just got through to CSPAN (next to last caller this morning) and complimented Mr. Steele on his excellent campaign ads. I told him I was sorry that the WAPO did not have to eat that last editorial and asked him how he/we can overcome the media bias. Led to the discussion of how biased the WAPO was on their coverage of both Steele and Allen.


36 posted on 11/12/2006 5:37:14 AM PST by Laverne
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
What kind of cereal are you eating? I want some!! This is so good I can't believe it.

They're quite arrogantly proud that they have standards, its part of their "save the world/liberal" worldview....document when they lie, distort, tell half the story etc.,...we need to be there,with our evidence at hand,accusing them of unethical, unjournalistic behavior,.it bugs them.....

Brilliant post AB.!

37 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Will you join me?

I'm in!

38 posted on 11/12/2006 5:39:06 AM PST by Pusterfuss (Proud member: Minnesotans for Global Warming)
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To: Miss Marple

The same Madrassa media started their campaign against Tom Delay, the day he was elected as majority leader. Now, Harry Reid has far more serious ethical problems as does Mollahan, Menendez, Jefferson & Harman and suddenly is ok for them that they won't care.


39 posted on 11/12/2006 5:39:12 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good morning everyone!

I think (like most) that there were several things to blame for our loss, but I agree w you AB, it was not a thumping (as many in the DBM and others are claiming) and so agree about the invludence of the DBM.

I posted an article yesterday about the DBM. If you all haven't seen it, you may want to check this out:

The Pelosi News Networks:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1736856/posts


40 posted on 11/12/2006 5:39:37 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Alas Babylon!
How best to call the media on it, AB? We must put their names in lights. And it should go in the headlines, otherwise we'll have a billion vanity posts, correct? How about Meet the Press Bias
or Russert lies

Several websites make a living off of this; Media Reasearch Center, and their off-shoot NewsBusters, and Olbywatch, etc.

As a starter idea, perhaps we append the legitimate searchable news story and headline;
Rove questioned about Plame
with
Rove questioned about Plame (Russert lies)

An example such as this one, finds "Russert lies" in a google search, does it not?

41 posted on 11/12/2006 5:40:01 AM PST by chiller (Heaven help this republic..)
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To: anita
I am hoping we get a zillion reasons why we lost today, if we do it won't happen again.
We already have quite a few.
42 posted on 11/12/2006 5:40:09 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

With all due respect....

I am not going to point my fingers at the drive-by media for this most recent wipe out of Republicans across the board. I WILL allow that they have a bias and it's evident.

But just last week mighty Rush Limbaugh himself admitted he'd been carrying the water for lackluster Republicans. They have a bias, obviously, and with the Lamestream it's generally liberal. What's the bigger crime is the lie they've foisted on us that they are "impartial" and above the fray. Rush Limbaugh is biased and we know it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I say let the biases be known up front and let the reader/listener/watcher decide. If you're saying we should keep catching them on their bias instead of the impartiality they claim to own, I agree completely.

That being said, I have given a great amount of thought to last Tuesday's rout, as I daresay most of us have.

I was a voter who expressed her disdain and disillusionment for the Republican party last Tuesday although my modest protest affected exactly no one. Still I will count myself amongst the great unwashed in that we had a pubbie candidate for Senator here in the swamps of Delaware but I did not vote for him. Instead I voted for a write-in candidate, a lovely Christian woman who'd initially sought the pub nomination but was smacked down by the Delaware Republican party which so resembles Joe Biden's party here in the First state.

Understand that I knew that Tom Carper was going to win as Senator, hands down. His nominated pub opponent, one Jan Ting, was lackluster, uninspiring and he refused to take a stand on abortion. So I wrote in the name of his independent opponent just because I wanted to send a message to Delaware's pub party.

Thus counting myself as one of the Repub disaffected, let me state why. Like Rush and Laura et al have been saying all last week, these Repubs have failed to endorse conservative values and I'm tired of it.

They've gerrymandered themselves into power and they've learned via that entrenched power to deal with the Democrats in so many ways directly opposite to conservative ideals.

In the past two years I've seen Denny Hastert stand with William Jefferson, D-Louisiana in front of my lying eyeballs. I've seen free speech frittered away in the guise of campaign speech that the gerrymandered not risk their seat for citizen rhetoric.

I've watched a major prescription medicare plan passed that no one really likes and I've watched Ted Kennedy smile as he enjoyed the fame of helping pass even more MAJOR federal intrusion into education.

I've learned that Foley was a homosexual who used the Congressional Page pool as his own male partner fishing hole and now I learn that the head of the RNC is also a homosexual. Which I wouldn't have a problem with except I have some major concerns about family values and at the very least I think some truth is deemed here.

I've watched the pubbies sit back and let the screaming hyenas blame the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT for Katrinia failures and not one dared to state firmly that America is a country of rugged individuals who should FIRST depend on themselves.

Not once did a major pubbie dispute the Lamestream mantra that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction and this became a truth simply because the pubs allowed it to be said so often that it became the truth.

I've watched that herd of Republican cats in the Senate look out for their own fine selves in the form of John McCain and others who formed a unit to fight against Conservative judges when THIS was a major concern of conservatives accross the country.

I've seen NO action taken to privatize at least a portion of Social Security even though these guys HAD the majority but hey, they wanted that AARP vote and their own re-election took precidence over my silly concerns.

They frittered away their leadership for their own personal gain and THAT is why I felt so disenfranchised that I wrote in a candidate this past election day rather than vote for yet another mealy-mouthed Republican that they chose for me.

I've got plenty more. I'm not done yet.


43 posted on 11/12/2006 5:40:11 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: johnny7
FAILURE has been the operative word for the Dems for quite some time.

If the WOT was a failure, then the terrorist would be dancing in the streets of the U.S.

But, then again those stupid dems in Minntesota elected the first Muslim to Congress!!
44 posted on 11/12/2006 5:41:09 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The Clinton years: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.
The Bush years with Republicans in charge: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.
The Bush years with Dems in charge: they invite Biden, Schumer and McCain on these shows.

You'd think they want to talk to the people actually IN CHARGE instead of just their Dem friends, but the sentence in the middle above proves that wrong.


45 posted on 11/12/2006 5:42:02 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: anita
Madrassa media

I like your term. Truer words were never spoken.

46 posted on 11/12/2006 5:42:07 AM PST by patj
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To: rodguy911
One thing I'd like to point out is the cleverness of some of the DBM. When accused of bias, they have a lot of tricks up their sleeves to counter the charge. Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center has fought them for years, but they've been able to color him as a right-wing kook and he gets little press (Fox News uses him sometimes).

Do not confuse news analysis with straight reporting. One trick of the DBM is to say they're only offering their opinions which may be different than their reporting. Many shows we dislike, such as Chris Matthews' panels or Olbermann's screeds, are simply reporters giving their opinion of things, which, though almost always bizarrely leftist, are only opinion. Many on the Left hate Fox News (or what Fox News used to be) because of the conservative view expressed in the news analysis shows they have (which are their biggest draws). The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes are news analysis programs and not straight news reporting.

So let's concentrate on straight up stories that are biased. And of course, The Sunday shows, when their questions are biased, wrong, misleading, or plainly lies, need our most carefull scrutiny!

47 posted on 11/12/2006 5:42:43 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Shooting the Messenger , even one who spins the story their way- DBM is only a small part of the what should be done. In my opinion the reason the Republicans lost are many and have little to do with the DBM.

Tom Delay here in my area made a personal decision to get out too late. This decision lead to this Republican seat going to a Democrat. In two years this seat will revert to a Republican.

As a whole the Republicans, both in the Senate and in the House did very little to give many people a reason to vote for them. The expansion of government with new entitlements, no restraint on spending, Kennedy/Bush education reform, Feingold/McCain free speech limitation legislation is a short list of why many people did not show up to vote.

The bright spot was the Supreme Court nominations that we did get. And the Tex cuts in 2002/2003.

The Republicans will need to be on the offensive, they will need to give people a reason to vote for them. I am looking for the following

1. Lower Taxes
2. Smaller government


48 posted on 11/12/2006 5:43:52 AM PST by DanZ
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To: leadpenny
Sometimes I post interesting and topical C-Span@ stuff. Sometimes not. I DID see this stuff.

Four veterans of the war in Iraq War talk about their service in Iraq, what it was like to return home, and the books they have written about their experiences. They respond to telephone calls and electronic mail from viewers.


Rieckhoff, Paul
Founder and Executive Director, Operation Truth

King, R. Alan Commander (Fmr.), Civil Affairs Battalion (Iraq)

Olson, Kimberly Colonel (Ret.), U.S. Air Force

Danelo, David J. Captain (Fmr.), U.S. Marine Corps


Former Lt. Paul Rieckhoff is the author of Chasing Ghosts: A Soldier's Fight for America from Baghdad to Washington, published by NAL. Lt. Col. R. Alan King is the author of Twice Armed: An American Soldier's Battle for Hearts and Minds in Iraq, published by Zenith Press. Col. Kim Olson (Ret.) is the author of Iraq and Back: Inside the War to Win the Peace, published by Naval Institute Press. Former Capt. David Danelo is the author of Blood Stripes: The Grunt's View of the War in Iraq, published by Stackpole Books.


12:00 PM EST
1:30 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Iraq
C-SPAN, BookTV
Paul Rieckhoff , Operation Truth
R. Alan King , Civil Affairs Battalion (Iraq)
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.
02:00 PM EST
1:00 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Veterans Day Weekend Program on the War in Afghanistan
C-SPAN, BookTV
Sean Naylor , Army Times
Steven Pressfield
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.

Bump for our Servicemen!
49 posted on 11/12/2006 5:45:08 AM PST by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: johnny7
Great catch here Johnny7--bears repeating"

...what was once an overt bias in reporting...has mutated into a cover-operations/propaganda machine for the Democrat-Socialist Party.An alliance that embraces every enemy of America when a Republican resides in the White House

Sheer brilliance here john, great stuff.!!

50 posted on 11/12/2006 5:45:10 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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