Slouching Toward Suicide

Front Page Magazine ^ | 11/13/06 | Joseph D'Hippolito

[RoadTest]

I know it too well. That's why you're arguing with me.

It's not out of hate I say these things, but in the hope you will be saved eternally. The priests can't show you the way of salvation - they aren't even saved themselves.

[mockingbyrd]

I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior and I walk in the path that He has shown me.

So focus your energy and efforts on those who do not yet know Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

[RoadTest]

"I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior and I walk in the path that He has shown me. "

I'm glad.

[fdcc]

Bump.

[Hildy]

MUSLIMS: USING OUR GOODNESS AGAINST US FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

[libertylovinactivist]

I highly recommend regularly reading www.brusselsjournal.com. It's a website run by a Christian who has been hassled for homeschooling his children. This website extensively discusses the scourges upon Europe attributable Islamic immigration.

It's our future that will be horribly threatened if we fail to act and stop Muslim immigration. Tragically, Bush just doesn't get it. The NYT did a piece stating that under Bush, Muslim immigration into America in 2005 exceeded Muslim immigration for the previous 20 years. This is very dangerous.

American already has CAIR and other militant Wahhabist organization. We don't need to mutiply the fith column of jihadists and, in fact, we need to shut down and deport the Wahhabist lobby.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Cardinal Bernard Law, the former archbishop of Boston, followed the late pope’s example at a suburban mosque in 2002. As the Boston Globe reported on Nov. 25, 2002, “Law removed his shoes. Then, as the imam chanted the sunset prayers, the bishop knelt with his forehead just inches from the carpet and offered praise to Allah.”

Afterward, Law partook of the meal that breaks the day-long Ramadan fast. ''I feel very much at home with my fellow fundamentalists here,” Law said, “who are convinced that God must be at the center of our lives.”

I'm beyond pi$$ed about this. Bernard Law isn't a Fundamentalist, nor would he want to be associated with the term--at least insofar as it applies to America's Heartland folk-Protestantism. But this pompous evolutionist and higher critic, who made a career of covering up homosexuality in his diocese, considers "fundamentalist" a badge of honor when applying to a religion that is as anti-evolution and anti-higher critical as any American Protestant "redneck," but which (unlike the rednecks) routinely murders people. But as with Rosie O'Donnell, all is forgiven to any group that is arbitrarily identified as "the other" (corresponding to the thesis in the Hegelian formula).

Any and all attacks on American rural folk Protestantism emanating from Catholic leaders/publications/organizations from this moment on should be held to be inexcusable. American Fundamentalists should sue the pants off any Catholic publication, organization, or official who smears them from now on, considering the love affair with non-redneck "fundamentalists."

American Catholics, like all historical minority populations in the United States, have long harbored bigoted and hateful attitudes towards their fellow-citizens of the rural American heartland but have been given a pass both because of the traditional double standard in favor of minorities and because of the worship of Catholicism by so many "civilizationist" conservatives. And as with all historical minorities, the burden of "tolerance" and "understanding" is all one way.

If the American Catholic bishops want to act like Jesse Jackson, then so be it. I say it's time conservatives stopped giving the Catholic Church a free ride.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Diversity, multiculturalism, tolerance, dialogue, ecumenism, compromise, syncretism, nuance, bending and blending, etc. are wonderful as long as they're not done with those nasty Evangelical Protestants.

I'm still livid about this double standard (as described in my earlier post). The Catholic Church, which claims to be the true religion of all humanity, has for a long time arbitrarily treated American Fundamentalist Protestants like lepers. But what's the surprise here? Everyone does this. I mean, even Black Fundamentalist Protestants, who are theoretically the co-religionists of the rednecks, prefer atheists, evolutionists, and homosexuals to the "po' buckras." And while we're at it, high-tushed over intellectual American Catholic bishops who treat "redneck" Fundamentalists like infected carcasses, have no trouble with emotional literalistic Black Protestants. For some reason the entire world has just made up its mind that the American "redneck" Fundamentalist is the sub-human cause of all the world's troubles.

There's not a liberal "lover of all people" in the world who doesn't hate us rednecks just because of the culture and geography into which we were born.

I've about had it. No more! NO MORE!!!

Freaking hypocrites, every one of the "cracker"-bashers--including the ones here at FR!!!

[Zionist Conspirator]

My main point was the glaring double standard I always observed in HS and college. While my (liberal) Catholic edje-muck-ators were quick to trumpet the wonders of ecumenism—embracing Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, etal. with respect and collegiality—the idea of fellowship with conservative Christians who actually follow the Bible was always shunned with a prickly, parochial mistrust.

That's it exactly!!! Catholicism in America is in precisely the same position vis a vis Protestantism that Judaism is vis a vis chr*stianity--they're both a mostly urban immigrant population historically affiliated with the Democrat party. Yet the Jews get whacked all the time for this reason while the Catholic Church gets off scot-free.

No Catholic has any right to complain about the way Jews treat Jews for J----- because they have the exact same attitude towards Evangelical Protestants. I'll never understand why mere proselytization is considered such a big taboo, especially by religions that, ethnic and ingrown as they may have become, actually started out that way!

Of course it isn't just Catholics. All the liturgical churches have a unique and almost visceral antipathy to America's heartland Protestantism (at least when practiced by whites). They want to be honorary non-chr*stian leftwing urban minorities in America while still remaining "the one true church" (a claim that is never slammed as bigoted because it is made by minorities). And they want America's rural "rednecks" to serve as the scapegoats for the crimes which they committed.

I'm surprised some of them can look themselves in the mirror.

[Campion]

What would Catholics do if a pope decreed that homosexuality was OK, or abortion was OK, etc. I was pooh poohed of course, but look at the Anglicans, Lutherans, and many others today.

I think you're operating under the confused notions that (a) Catholicism is whatever the Pope decrees it to be, or that (b) a Pope's bad example is somehow binding on Catholics.

Neither proposition is true. For example, (not that there was truly any doubt) JP2 taught infallibly in Evangelium Vitae that abortion was always a grave moral evil.

There is no wiggle room in what he said, no room for compromise, and no doubt. No future Pope can cross that off the list, any more than he can decree that red is blue or that rain falls up.

As far as a Pope's bad example, the earliest known example (we'll give Peter a pass with his threefold denial because it was before Pentecost) is in Galatians 2. It was, well, a bad example, and St. Paul correctly recognized it as such.

If the Church has survived (barely, but survived) a Pope like Alexander VI, who openly kept a mistress in the Vatican and gave preferments to his illegitimate children, it can survive bishops who are wimps versus Islam. That is not to say that what they do is okay, just that it is not any kind of fatal blow like you seem to think it is.

You aren't going to like the following.

As far as the Anglicans, Lutherans, and others: Protestants went off the rails definitively in the area of sexual morality in 1930, when the Anglican Lambeth Conference decreed that artificial contraception was acceptable for married couples. That was contrary to 2000 years of established Christian teaching. Lord Runcie, the former Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, has admitted that a church which accepts artificial contraception has no consistent, logical grounds for opposing homosexual activity. Once you endorse contraception, you endorse the idea that pleasure alone is sufficient justification for sexual acts. The conclusion that there are no grounds to restrict that pleasure solely to the married, or solely to heterosexuals, follows naturally.

What is the only major Christian denomination which sticks to the position of the Protestant reformers on artificial birth control? Hint: it's not Protestant.

[Campion]

The Catholic Church, which claims to be the true religion of all humanity, has for a long time arbitrarily treated American Fundamentalist Protestants like lepers.

I don't hear any Catholics denouncing fundamentalists as antiChrist, do you?

I don't see any Catholics making millions of dollars publishing "novels" which depict a future fundamentalist leader as the "false prophet" of Revelation. Do you?

I don't hear any Catholics claiming that fundamentalism is a Satanic counterfeit of Christianity invented by the emperor Constantine, do you?

I don't hear any Catholic conservatives declaring their unwillingness to work with fundamentalists on social issues, even one so central as abortion. Do you?

I don't see any Catholic apostolates or "ministries" invading fundamentalist Protestant gatherings, leafleting fundamentalist kids with deceptive literature which attempts to look like something from a fundamentalist Protestant background on the outside, while on the inside trashing fundamentalism in an attempt to draw those kids away from their faith. Do you?

I'll tell you what I'm sick and tired of. I'm tired of my faith being relentlessly lied about, trashed, slandered, and misrepresented by so-called "conservatives" on this so-called "conservative" website, and I'm tired of wandering just what I have in common with those so-called "conservatives," who make it clear at every turn that don't respect my right to worship as I see fit.

[RoadTest]

But it isn't the Pope who decides what's moral. That's what wars have been fought over and Christians have died at the stake for.