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Martinez to become new RNC chief
CNN ^ | November 13, 2006 | CNN

Posted on 11/13/2006 12:06:47 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

Just breaking.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2008elections; breaking; constitutionparty; florida; hispandering; hispanichaters; intotheabyss; liberalgop; losers; losing2008; melmartinez; morehispandering; pandering; racefor2008; rino; rinonatlcommittee; shouldhavebeensteele; votelibertarian
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To: Txsleuth

Just talked to the RNC - CALL THEM 202-863-8500. Martinez will be voted on in January by the 155 voting members for a 2-year term.

Call your State RNC.


451 posted on 11/13/2006 1:51:59 PM PST by MrRights
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To: traviskicks

Two Oklahomans. Woohoo!


452 posted on 11/13/2006 1:52:41 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Republican Red

The ACU rating is a good thing generally speaking. For this position, though, a personality is mandatory. Need a good rating, great public speaking skills, and charisma.


453 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:10 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

RINO

He has all the fighting gumption of the fighting Dukaki.


454 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:19 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: onyx

Lifetime ACU rating of 96? Also not too shabby. But this appointment is going to make the anti-immigration crowd go nuts. It's happening already on this thread. d ignore them.

I think they chose Martinez primarily for two reasons. First, he is a Hispanic immigrant. The GOP Hispanic vote was down a full 10% points from 2004. If this happens again, or if they don't reverse the trend, the GOP will be doomed to minority party status. This is an excellent step in the right direction of trying to regain these voters.

Second, and even more important, Texas and (to a slightly lesser extent) Florida mostly bucked the national Democratic trends. These happen to be the second and third biggest states after California. These are also states where the state GOP has adopted an inclusive approach to Hispanics. If you start pissing off Texas and Florida hispanics and they flip to the Democrats, the Democrats will soon have an electoral lock on the four biggest states in the nation. This means a lock on the Presidency and the House as well.

The GOP can win these voters if it goes after them. They tend to be culturally conservative. I know that many of them in Texas are. I bet that this is even more true in Florida, where many of the Hispanics are Cuban-Americans. President Bush and brother Jeb have been very successful at winning Hispanic votes.


455 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:33 PM PST by kesg
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To: VRWCTexan
IMHO conservatives need to consider forming a whole new political party

It's called the Constitution Party.

456 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:36 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

He's a BIG LIB lawyer. Cross your fingers!


457 posted on 11/13/2006 1:53:41 PM PST by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: kesg

What are you Mel Martinez or something? You keep posting the same crap that has been exquisitely disputed.


458 posted on 11/13/2006 1:54:39 PM PST by TheKidster
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To: All

Martinez isn't even very well thought of in Florida. He has a 43% positive/42% negative job approval rating and he's soft on illegal immigration. Yuck.


459 posted on 11/13/2006 1:54:41 PM PST by jamese777
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To: NormsRevenge; markomalley
mark: So I'd take the ACU ratings with a bit of a grain of salt...

You two guys are gonna burn in hell for blaspheming the Sacred Scorecard.

I'm just sayin'...
460 posted on 11/13/2006 1:54:54 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: PhiKapMom
Please tell me this is not true! First Gates for SecDef and now this. I am officially living in the twilight zone.

That knife twisting in your back getting a bit uncomfortable? You ain't seen nothin' yet...

461 posted on 11/13/2006 1:54:58 PM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: VRWCTexan
IMHO conservatives need to consider forming a whole new political party

The GOP cannot win without support from all its factions. If conservatives split off, they'll never win anything.

462 posted on 11/13/2006 1:55:04 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: greene66

In a perfect world....what would your solution be to the illegal problem? And, believe me, it is a HUGE problem. I encounter it every single day here in Texas. So, what to do? Is it really possible to round them all up and send them south of the border? Or, should they be identified, and allowed to stay? What about the border? Military? A fence?

I'm just asking....I don't know what the answer should be.


463 posted on 11/13/2006 1:55:21 PM PST by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: PhilCollins

Oh yeah. 1974 was a FABULOUS year for Reps.


464 posted on 11/13/2006 1:55:33 PM PST by ConservativeGadfly
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To: MrRights
He is 100% pro-amnesty. He'd bring them all here tomorrow if he could.

What gets me is that people are acting all surprsied by this!

465 posted on 11/13/2006 1:56:29 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: B Knotts

Anybody else think that Rove totally lost his mojo during the Plame/blame/game?!?


466 posted on 11/13/2006 1:58:03 PM PST by top 2 toe red (~**~ I liked Tuesday, November 7, 2006...a lot, lot better before the votes were counted. ~**~)
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To: George W. Bush

I won't mind the heat as much as long as it ain't too humid.. ;-)


467 posted on 11/13/2006 1:58:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: jamese777

Martinez is a political moron.

He managed to piss off every core group which has made florida a republican state. From bikers, gun owners, property owners, and supporters of traditional marriage Mel has mucked it up.

He is an empty suit and this is just further proof that the elites of DC are back in charge. Mel has not substance he just follows orders.


468 posted on 11/13/2006 1:58:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ConservativeMind

Until Libertarians get over the idea that you can kill a small child and call it freedom, they will not be a party worth the support of any conservative.


469 posted on 11/13/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome swingers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: mandingo republican

Why would the party that just LOST name a LOSER as national chairman??

That's why it is so much more disappointing that he backs the shamnesty legislation the Senate and President want to shove down our throats. He should realize citizenship and the promises the USA offer should not be thrown out for free to anyone not willing to play by the rules. That's like using pages from the Bible to line your birdcage!!


470 posted on 11/13/2006 1:59:09 PM PST by TheKidster
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To: top 2 toe red

Perhaps the true colors of Rove and Bush are shining through?


471 posted on 11/13/2006 1:59:24 PM PST by MrRights
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To: top 2 toe red

Perhaps the true colors of Rove and Bush are shining through?


472 posted on 11/13/2006 1:59:25 PM PST by MrRights
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To: teawithmisswilliams

AMNESTY blackmail

votw with us or your $upport goes away. Only the dead horse head is missing.


473 posted on 11/13/2006 2:01:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Zeppelin
being a centrist, do you think he got the offer because of his surname? just curious. I dont know anything about this dude. About to do some research.

Isn't this guy a crony of GWB?

474 posted on 11/13/2006 2:01:43 PM PST by SMM48
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To: VRWCTexan
IMHO conservatives need to consider forming a whole new political party

That is exactly what will be happening now. I have watched this coming down he runway for the past 6 years!!!!

475 posted on 11/13/2006 2:02:33 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: longtermmemmory; jamese777
he just follows orders.

Maybe that's what the handlers are looking for.

476 posted on 11/13/2006 2:02:46 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: TommyDale
We need to all get together... this entire scene is insane... and getting worst every day... after twenty years of funding the Republican party... I am so discouraged...
We seem to just want to buy or tint elections with certain colors: green, brown, black, etc... it really should be about character, vision, productivity - but I guess I am way out of order in today's politics...
Point of interest:
We have a neighbor who ran for a judicial position - no one was less qualified, the guy's an alcoholic, working on his third wife, kids run wild.. but yet, took $200,000 of his own money, borrowed on his home for an additional $100,000 and won the election - he is now going to be a judge for $140,000 a year... let's see...how do you spell "under the table gifts"????
Perhaps I am destined for a new party or a new country... Australia anyone?
477 posted on 11/13/2006 2:03:07 PM PST by Fritzy
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To: Mr. Silverback
Until Libertarians get over the idea that you can kill a small child and call it freedom, they will not be a party worth the support of any conservative.

You have that one right!!!

478 posted on 11/13/2006 2:03:55 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Disappointing choice.


479 posted on 11/13/2006 2:04:57 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: Irish Eyes

I went online and looked, it is Maricopa county. WOW, I found a blog that must be out of AU in Tempe, says it was started specifically to follow the Mitchell/Hayworth race and they are ecstatic that Mitchell is still ahead and calling JD a crybaby... this is what we are getting with liberal universities and the push to register more and more young voters.


480 posted on 11/13/2006 2:05:50 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: PhiKapMom

At this stage in the run-up to the primaries in 16 months, this is a place-holder appointment. As the convention shakes out, the nominee will put his man in place for the run. Martinez is blah enough that no one (Mitt, Rudy, McCainiac) was against him.


481 posted on 11/13/2006 2:07:32 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: RexBeach

It's not just his political views. He makes Bob Woodward look like the life of the party. I hope people are right that this is a very temporary choice.


482 posted on 11/13/2006 2:10:07 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: RexBeach

Oh Geeze a Me! I was hoping to vote him out next time he came up for reelection. Ok...I give up, I really am NOT being represented! Sheesh.
susie


483 posted on 11/13/2006 2:10:33 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: PhiKapMom

Hey Mom, long time no see!
susie


484 posted on 11/13/2006 2:11:32 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
...angry white Southern married Christians.

Only one of these adj/nouns describe me...and yet I vote a straight R ticket.

I oppose Martinez for one reason only, he does not have the energy, charm, personality, polish, demeanor, nor confidence to do for the RNC that that has to be done for 2008. I thought Steele had all those qualities I find lacking in Mel. MHO.

485 posted on 11/13/2006 2:11:38 PM PST by top 2 toe red (~**~ I liked Tuesday, November 7, 2006...a lot, lot better before the votes were counted. ~**~)
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To: COEXERJ145

The race card gets old. Try pulling a different one out of the deck.


486 posted on 11/13/2006 2:12:51 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: PhiKapMom

It's all so bizarre. The Repubs better realize they are doing precisely the opposite of what they should.


487 posted on 11/13/2006 2:15:29 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: tobyhill

Pro-Amnesty Martinez... WooHoo... Get out the maracas!!!

Everybody Cha-Cha-Cha...


488 posted on 11/13/2006 2:15:32 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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To: dawn53

Those are excellent points. Operation Peter Pan, IIRC. I didn't look at site. That said - he better be able to go toe to toe with wacky Dean, if Dean will ver show up.


489 posted on 11/13/2006 2:18:01 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: kesg
"His ACU rating in 2005 was a perfect 100%."

So? I guess their standards are different than mine. Supporting amnesty for illegals (with all the attendant tax $$$), makes you a big govt. subsidizer, in my book. Not allowing us to drill off Florida, but standing around with your finger up your nose as china and cuba do, makes one a worthless liberal, in spite of the acu rating.

490 posted on 11/13/2006 2:19:00 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Shhh. They picked someone with a Spanish name...

I don't know if you are tossing out the race card because you are trying to be funny or you are trying to be profound...you've fallen flat whichever the case may be.

491 posted on 11/13/2006 2:22:33 PM PST by top 2 toe red (~**~ I liked Tuesday, November 7, 2006...a lot, lot better before the votes were counted. ~**~)
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To: tobyhill
Oh yea, the no drilling anywhere near Florida Martinez.

Okay, I have a question. How can you get a perfect ACU rating yet still oppose offshore drilling for oil or gas?

492 posted on 11/13/2006 2:22:42 PM PST by kesg
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To: VRWCTexan

Agreed.


493 posted on 11/13/2006 2:23:12 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: bordergal

Full speed ahead!! Make hay while the sun shines!! Amnesty, cha-cha-cha!!


494 posted on 11/13/2006 2:23:31 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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To: kesg

I am anti-illegal immigration, but I agree with the reasons you stated regarding his appointment.


495 posted on 11/13/2006 2:23:43 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Worst news on the home front yet!


496 posted on 11/13/2006 2:25:00 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Millions of Democrat babies aborted in 1988 or earlier did not vote this year.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

The next General Election isn't until 2008 so she'd have the seat for two years. It would drive the libs stark raving mad and throw gasoline on what will already be a wildfire when it comes to the '08 Presidential. The thing is, would Jeb want to go out that way? I don't think so. It would be a delicious back-atcha but too volatile politically.


497 posted on 11/13/2006 2:26:54 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: Deport Billary

"GWB is hellbent on amnesty. He knew the plan would infuriate conservatives in a mid-term election year, but he went full-speed ahead."

Bush probably knows that it will be largely the catholic mexican that will be fighting the muslim hordes in the not so far future. Indian will also assist if they don't get nuked by Pakistan. Sides will be drawn by religiously, and the hispanic culture is uniquely Christian based.


498 posted on 11/13/2006 2:27:21 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: kesg
I don't think the ACU rating takes in account positions on drilling per say but his position on off shore drilling 100 miles from the shores of Florida was based on the ultra-liberal environmental position so the answer to your question is I have no clue how he got that rating. I don't have a big concern with him other than when we needed energy assistance by domestic supplies he was the obstructionist.
499 posted on 11/13/2006 2:29:20 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: onyx

News from south of the hood
From yesterday's SDUT


Tijuana plans sister-city pact with Havana
Officials heading to Cuba this week

TIJUANA, Nov. 12 (UNION-TRIBUNE)
A group of Tijuana officials and city council members is expected to travel to Havana, Cuba, this week to sign a declaration formalizing a sister-city relationship with the communist nation's capital.


500 posted on 11/13/2006 2:32:23 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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