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The tough anti-illegal immigration ad for J.D. Hayworth paid for by the NRCC, and Hayworth lost.
YouTube, NRCC ^ | November 15, 2006

Posted on 11/15/2006 1:13:04 PM PST by Dane

Tough anti-illegal immigration ad paid for by the NRCC, and Hayworth still lost


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; hayowrth; hayworth; immigrantlist; immigration; mitchell
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The above ad is as tough as can be and was not paid for by Hayworth's campaign but by the NRCC, which meant it had the approval of Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove.

Did it help, nope. Hayowrth conceded yesterday.

So the next time I see some "true conservative" saying that the GOP doesn't help it's candidates, I will refer back to this thread.

The only bad part is that the pet issue of foaming at the mouth over immigration of some on FR did not help a candidate(Hayworth) who in the previous three elections had won with at least 60% of the vote.

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1 posted on 11/15/2006 1:13:10 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane

What percent is Hispanic in Hayworth's district?


2 posted on 11/15/2006 1:15:22 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Dane
But his associate Kyle WON. He was anti-illegal invader.

And DeWine and Chaffee lost - both libs.

So what's your point?

Most Hispanic Americans, in an article extracted on this site, voted Democrat - MORE than voted LAST time around, DESPITE Bush's knee padding to Vicente Fox.

FURTHER, the SAME article stated that immigration was not even an issue among Hispanic Americans - it was jobs and schools.

So, Dane, back to the drawing board for more research to justify illegal alien pardons.
3 posted on 11/15/2006 1:17:15 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
And DeWine and Chaffee lost - both libs.

And they were replaced with even bigger libs you dunderhead.

4 posted on 11/15/2006 1:18:14 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
As I said on the other thread...
I do not believe it was because of his immigration stand. His opponent on this issue was also taking a realtively hard line. Why? Because in the state of Arizona they are passing popular ballot initiatives addressing the issue too...so I do not believe it was his stance on immigration that cost him the election.

But that's just my opinion from way up here in Idaho.

5 posted on 11/15/2006 1:19:14 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be)
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To: Dane

Open borders amnesty didn't help the GOP no matter how many Hayworth threads you start today.


6 posted on 11/15/2006 1:19:19 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Dane
The only bad part is that the pet issue of foaming at the mouth over immigration of some on FR did not help a candidate(Hayworth) who in the previous three elections had won with at least 60% of the vote.

One problem with your thesis, Harry Mitchell ran a campaign that made illegal immigration a center piece.

Also, Arizona passed English as Offical Language (Prop 103) by 74 to 26.

J.D. lost because he ran a crappy campaign and his district changed, becoming choked with liberal Californians who vote instinctivly D.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

7 posted on 11/15/2006 1:21:45 PM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Dane
Mitchell supports amnesty?

All of the seemingly Mitchell apologists around here have been saying Mitchell was strong on illegal immigration.

8 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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JD hasn't lost anything spunky.

Ballots are still being counted - Absentee and Early Voters.

9 posted on 11/15/2006 1:22:47 PM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: Dane
Hayworth was specifically targeted by the Democrats. There was a massive effort to re-register out-of-state ASU students to vote against him.

BTW, the reason the Mexicans vote for Democrats is because the Democrats promise to take money away from other citizens and give it to them. They also stand for special privileges for minorities.
10 posted on 11/15/2006 1:23:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: Brilliant

What percent is Hispanic in Hayworth's district?



that is a very good point. His dist. has AZ. ST. Univ.
with more and more liberals and more liberals from the east settling there.

These are people who who are illegal supporters, so JD didn't have a chance.


11 posted on 11/15/2006 1:23:53 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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Dude, he lost. Get over it. He LOST ground in the last batch of ballots.


12 posted on 11/15/2006 1:24:04 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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... Harry Mitchell ran a campaign that made illegal immigration a center piece.

The add says Mitchell was for amnesty.

13 posted on 11/15/2006 1:24:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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Hey Dane, get lost.

The fact is they lost because Republicans didn't come out to vote for them because of their disgraceful behavior and I say good riddance.

You're the Dunderhead. Poll after poll after poll has indicated the American people don't want amnesty for illegal invaders, yet you do.

Do you run an orange orchard Dane? Perhaps some sweatshop somewhere?


14 posted on 11/15/2006 1:26:06 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: zbigreddogz
***Dude, he lost. Get over it. He LOST ground in the last batch of ballots.***

A thread yesterday (from JDs website) said there were IIRC 56,000 ballots to be counted. Most expected to go his way.

15 posted on 11/15/2006 1:28:09 PM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: Condor51
JD hasn't lost anything spunky

Hayworth Concedes Election Defeat

16 posted on 11/15/2006 1:29:45 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: ZULU

I suspect that many of the people who screamed loudest that everyone should vote RINO no matter what, probably voted democrat anyway.


17 posted on 11/15/2006 1:29:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Brilliant; Dane
Dane, sitting on the East Coast, is determined to make out the AZ election loss for JD related to immigration. It wasn't. It was his district being so heavily ASU and the students really went all out this election to defeat JD. One only need to a blog search to find some of the sites.

JD lost because of ASU being in his district, Abramhoff $$, lobby $$ for his wife and stemcells... those were the non-stop ads against him. No where did Mitchell run ads that JD was too tough on illegal immigration. Dane knows this, but, like I said, it doesn't fit with his mission -- if he'd ever really explain to us why he is so hot for this country to be over run with illegal immigration.

BTW we had four ammendments specifically against Illegal -- like English only -- and all four passed. That's how much Arizonan's are against Illegal immigration.

A side note: Today they want to dump Howard Dean, but Doctor Dean has upped the interest in voting at the University level and we need to figure out how to tap into that.

18 posted on 11/15/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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19 posted on 11/15/2006 1:33:51 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Condor51; zbigreddogz

He didn't lose ground, he was gaining, but said not at a rate that made it probable he could win.


20 posted on 11/15/2006 1:34:32 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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