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The tough anti-illegal immigration ad for J.D. Hayworth paid for by the NRCC, and Hayworth lost.
YouTube, NRCC ^ | November 15, 2006

Posted on 11/15/2006 1:13:04 PM PST by Dane

Tough anti-illegal immigration ad paid for by the NRCC, and Hayworth still lost


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; hayowrth; hayworth; immigrantlist; immigration; mitchell
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To: Tench_Coxe
You have a very unhealthy obsession about JD Hayworth.

Really? I ain't the one who rode the Tancredo train to loserdom.

51 posted on 11/15/2006 2:14:10 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Your posting is getting to the point of spamming. Rather than trashing other conservatives, how about doing something constructive such as supporting your choice for minority leader?


52 posted on 11/15/2006 2:15:29 PM PST by jmc813
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To: Condor51

Hayworth concedes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1738647/posts

This doesn't make me happy, but come on, you were SOOOOOO wishful thinking on that one.


53 posted on 11/15/2006 2:15:47 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Dane

Hey Dane, the anti-illegal propositions passed with 80% of the vote!


54 posted on 11/15/2006 2:16:23 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: McGavin999
Hey Dane, the anti-illegal propositions passed with 80% of the vote!

And J.D. Hayworth who won 60% of the vote in 02 and 04, lost.

55 posted on 11/15/2006 2:17:56 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Yep, thanks to Abramoff. His district though, followed the rest of the state on the percentages on 1. No Bail for Illegals, 2. Limits on lawsuits by illegals, 3. English Only , and 3. Education limits for illegals. :O)

Sorry Dane, buy you seem to be backing losers. You can't even tell when you're wrong.

56 posted on 11/15/2006 2:20:50 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: jmc813
Your posting is getting to the point of spamming. Rather than trashing other conservatives, how about doing something constructive such as supporting your choice for minority leader?

Reality bites dude.

Not sorry at all that your hero, Travis's rhetoric was thourougly rejected.

57 posted on 11/15/2006 2:20:59 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: McGavin999
Sorry Dane, buy you seem to be backing losers.

Well according to your words, J.D. Hayworth backed two losers, Tancredo and Abrahmhoff.

58 posted on 11/15/2006 2:22:18 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: SoCalPol

Yes,but Az State has always been in his district and full of those same college idealists who vote the liberal line.
Hayworth's loss can't be blamed only on them.Seems that numbers posted here earlier indicate GOP turnout was less than usual.


59 posted on 11/15/2006 2:22:28 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Dane
Gee Dane, you failed to notice that all the other republicans who backed anti-illegal immigration got voted back in. Kyl, who was openly against the McCain/Kennedy bill was voted back in overwhemlingly.

I know you don't like looking at reality Dane, but that's a fact. You can try to tie Hayworths loss to Trancredo if you like, but the simple fact is, his opponent lied and because the DNC poured millions into the race, people believe it.

60 posted on 11/15/2006 2:26:00 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: padre35
"we need a serious realistic debate on this."

So, in essence, if an invasion force enters the U.S. in great numbers over a period of time, we should just forget about it, and give them citizenship?

That's really serious debate, alright.

Cost effective solution: large fines of employers of illegals and a $1000 bounty for each illegal turned in by A U.S. Citizen. (That would be cost-effective in the drain they put on our infrastructure, jails, schools, and law enforcement). Additionally, USSC needs to rule on the issue of dropping anchor babies under the guise of Constitutional and precedential decisions. If you are here illegally, you can not gain citizenship for your offspring born here, period.

61 posted on 11/15/2006 2:26:41 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Dane

BTW Dane, you live in a state that couldn't even manage to re-elect one of the best senators in the senate. Perhaps if you weren't so obsessed with other states you could have spent some energy getting Santorum re-elected. But no, you have to tell us what to do when you can't even keep your own house clean.


62 posted on 11/15/2006 2:28:13 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: jmc813; Dane
"Your posting is getting to the point of spamming"..

There ya go, Dane..

63 posted on 11/15/2006 2:28:45 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dane
Not sorry at all that your hero, Travis's rhetoric was thourougly rejected.

My hero is Curtis Martin of the New York Jets. You know, the team that has a much better record than the Steelers?

64 posted on 11/15/2006 2:29:02 PM PST by jmc813
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To: McGavin999
Kyl, who was openly against the McCain/Kennedy bill was voted back in overwhemlingly.

Uh but Kyl proposed his own solution(Kyl/Cornyn. which he was tarred and feathered on FR, BTW) while Hayworth went with the bashing the President route on Imus's show.

Tell me McGavin who is returning to DC and who is not.(I can give you a hint, the person groveling and sending mega resumes around to Arizona radio stations, his intials are J.D.)

65 posted on 11/15/2006 2:29:54 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Tell me McGavin who is returning to DC and who is not.(I can give you a hint, the person groveling and sending mega resumes around to Arizona radio stations, his intials are J.D.)

Tell me, who's returning to the playoffs and who's not?(I'll give you a hint, their initials are not P.S.)

66 posted on 11/15/2006 2:34:22 PM PST by jmc813
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To: Dane

No, he wasn't tarred and feathered here on FR. Most people in Arizona AND Texas were for his proposal. You see Dane, your problem is you don't even bother to listen to people. You just go around slamming people who don't agree with you 100%. You're sick on the immigration issue and you've more than pissed off a lot of Freepers with your sick insistance on tagging anyone against open borders as being a Tancredo supporter. Well you know what you're going to end up with? NOTHING!!! Because the longer this goes on, the less people are willing to give the illegals ANYTHING.


67 posted on 11/15/2006 2:34:25 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: McGavin999
No, he(Kyl) wasn't tarred and feathered here on FR, for his proposed immigration bill

Oh yes he was, and your denial is not a river in Egypt.

68 posted on 11/15/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

You're a joke Dane. Don't bother to reply, I'm not interested in your small minded insults.


69 posted on 11/15/2006 2:37:41 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: All

I live in San Diego and we tax payers spend millions of dollars a year supporting the illegals and also dealing with their crime.
We have tens of thousands of illegals here.

We are subsidizing these illegals because those who want cheap labor and cheap prices who live in other states who don't have to deal with this problem.

These open border people are no different than those collecting welfare as that is what they are doing at the expense of people like us in San Diego.


70 posted on 11/15/2006 2:41:31 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: traditional1



I can agree with you on the anchor babies at least.

15 million x 1,000?

I do not favor a blanket amnesty, I also don't favor giving Social Security to people who have only worked 5 years in the US.

I also think 2 dwi's means serve your jail time then get deported, if you are caught again, felony charges. I am bit tired of importing drunks, we have enough of our own thank you.


71 posted on 11/15/2006 2:42:18 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: padre35
"15 million x 1,000?"

Yes, which I think works out to about $15 billion, which would be a break-even against the cost incurred in one year for the economic penalty to American Citizens for the illegals benefits.

Just as important will be the removal of the illegal votes from the Democrats' election chances, which depend on the Hispanic vote to continue the handouts to buy the votes of their illegal constituency. Kalifornia is at the mercy of the Hispanic and lunatic fringe vote.

72 posted on 11/15/2006 2:51:09 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Dane
Just for Dane!

District 6 -- 470 of 470 precincts reporting (100%)

Tom Tancredo GOP (i) 149,919 59%

Bill Winter Dem 101,130 40% 

Jack Woehr Lib 3,839 2% 

73 posted on 11/15/2006 2:57:29 PM PST by digerati
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To: Dane

When did Hayworth lose?I don't recall hearing about it.


74 posted on 11/15/2006 3:01:47 PM PST by puppypusher
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To: digerati; Dane

Dane only trolls with multiple threads on the same subject when Republicans lose silly not when they win.


75 posted on 11/15/2006 3:15:08 PM PST by mthom
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Dane

Thank you, AC, that's what i thought was going on. I cannot BELIEVE Dane started A SECOND thread about this 3-4 hours after the first one. Anyone including Mel Martinez who believes that ANY congress critter was defeated for a stand on NO amnesty/illegal immigration ONLY hasn't looked at any facts or are chasing moonbeams trying to bolster their position.


76 posted on 11/15/2006 3:42:22 PM PST by libbylu
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To: martinidon

I would like to see JD run for McPains seat when it comes around. JD may not be popular in some towns or localities but he would do well with the rest of the state. We need an outspoken Senator to get this mess fixed!


77 posted on 11/15/2006 3:48:03 PM PST by Right Wing Agitator (Keeping Liberals Angry!)
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To: mthom
Dane only trolls with multiple threads on the same subject when Republicans lose silly not when they win.

Silly me! I also did not expect a reply from the troll.

78 posted on 11/15/2006 3:52:02 PM PST by digerati
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To: Right Wing Agitator

Agreed!


79 posted on 11/15/2006 3:53:57 PM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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To: Dane

Dane, you are well known here as apposing the fence.


80 posted on 11/15/2006 4:11:02 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: Dane

I live in Arizona. Now I will tell you the irony about this. From what I have been hearing Mitchell was elected because he ran as being stronger on stopping illegal immigration. I guess the voters in that district figured Hayworth had enough time to prove himself, so were hoping for a stronger respresentative in that respect.


81 posted on 11/15/2006 4:17:53 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Right Wing Agitator

~LOL~ I was just making meatloaf and watching the out takes of todays pathetic hearings with McCain and it came through my head....hmmmm JD can run in four years against McCain.... finally we could get a strong candidate and get rid of him once and for all in the primaries.


82 posted on 11/15/2006 4:18:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dane

Thanks for the propaganda. I believe you should take to democratunderground....or in the closet democrat.


83 posted on 11/15/2006 4:26:06 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Your trying to talk sense to him?!? Hitting a cement wall with a wood baseball bat would have more effect.
84 posted on 11/15/2006 5:38:14 PM PST by Hawk1976 (And for my next trick I will use splel chuck.)
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To: ZULU
"Poll after poll after poll has indicated the American people don't want amnesty for illegal invaders, yet you do."

It's not just polls. My personal experience with Americans of Hispanic ethnicity are overwhelmingly against the illegal invasion. Only those that benefit from illegals or those still loyal to Mexico, for who knows why, disagree.
85 posted on 11/15/2006 5:40:34 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (At worst the Pope's comments might cause a "war of words" but mohammedans prefer a "war over words".)
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To: padre35
The government broke faith. The government must first restore the faith of the citizens. That means a reinforced and patrolled barrier and serious enforcement against those who are actively employing them.

Once we have a better picture of the situation, we can determine how many workers we actively need. We can also pull from cultures other than Central and South American, they do not deserve special privilege just because they happen to have a land border.

Personally, I don't want a guest worker program. Not just because it won't work. I want people who want to be Americans. There education and skills don't matter very much to me. Also if we have people sitting on welfare, we don't the immigrants as much as we need the bums to work.
86 posted on 11/15/2006 6:08:09 PM PST by Hawk1976 (And for my next trick I will use splel chuck.)
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To: Hawk1976

I'm afraid you're right.


87 posted on 11/15/2006 7:17:57 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Texas_Jarhead

That's my experience also.

If somebody or their relatives came here legally, paid the cost, waited in line, WHY would they want to suppport other people who are trying to line-jump?

It doesn't make sense and the polls bear it out.

The only people pushing this are the Dems who see more votes, and the Repubs who are pandering to business interests.


88 posted on 11/16/2006 6:06:00 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Dane

Dane,

Please crawl back in your hole or join the other side. You are in the minority here, and will stay so.


89 posted on 11/16/2006 6:11:57 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"I feel like putting up a sign at the borders, unless you vote conservative turn around."

Your verbage is extremely kind. I would be a lot more blunt.


90 posted on 11/16/2006 6:14:55 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Dane

She wasn't in charge - the Repubs were and they took the heat.

Now the ball's in her court.

The average American voter is FAR less sophisticated than you or I on these things.

Most of them didn't even know who Pelosi is, let alone her voting record. They just knew they didn't like what was going on down there and wanted it to stop.


91 posted on 11/16/2006 6:17:27 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ohioman
Please crawl back in your hole or join the other side. You are in the minority here, and will stay so

Huh tell that to J.D Hayworth who in his last three elections won with 60% of the vote, but when he jumps on the loud mouth deport them all bandwagon, he loses to the democrat.

92 posted on 11/16/2006 8:36:26 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Illegals are not the only issue. Of course it is to idiots like yourself who could care less if we protect our borders.


93 posted on 11/16/2006 8:58:48 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman
Illegals are not the only issue. Of course it is to idiots like yourself who could care less if we protect our borders.

And where have I satted that I don't want the broders protected.

94 posted on 11/16/2006 9:02:07 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: DTogo
(Dane) Trolling for ZOT, are we?

Dane's not going to get zotted, he's been around FR for a very long time. Back pre Y2K we all swore he was working for the Clinton's pulling a FR shift over at the NSA. Hey Dane, spoken to yer pal mit lately? I haven't seen him in ages. But he's been replaced by zbigreddogz, I guess. Folks like y'all lend local color to the landscape (take your choice: commie red or Kerry/Dem blue)and allow those of us who present true conservative "all American patriotic values" to shine more brightly. That's what makes us BETTER than DU.

95 posted on 11/21/2006 7:37:51 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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