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Freeper exclusive: Weapons cache demolition causes many to be sick from exposure in Baghdad
private e-mails | 11/16/2006 | RaceBannon

Posted on 11/16/2006 4:54:12 PM PST by RaceBannon

I just received a private e-mail from someone I know from a Marine website who has family in Iraq. There has been a weapons cache explosion that caused many, hundreds of people to be exposed to some chemical that was present in the weapons.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushlied; bushtried; chemicalweapons; chems; iraq; nbc; rehirerumsfeld; rumint; weaponscache; wmd
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To: Zhangliqun

I guess you got me there. Asking for a plan for the future from those who insist on living in the past is somehow anti-____ (you fill in the blank hotshot). I stand humbled.


201 posted on 11/16/2006 7:19:15 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: VaMarVet
I'd like to know why you are this critical thread about our troops trying to convince everyone that the MSM is right and that we are losing this war, when we are in truth winning it?

Cut it out. Let information be conveyed without inserting your own ill informed opinions on this thread.

202 posted on 11/16/2006 7:21:15 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: VaMarVet

It makes a HUGE difference that there actually were WMD in Iraq.


203 posted on 11/16/2006 7:22:31 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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Funny I thought the libtards said there were no WMD in Saddam's Iraq ......


No doubt they will stick to that claim until they themselves lie twitching on the ground spasming so hard their bones are breaking.......
204 posted on 11/16/2006 7:22:59 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: RaceBannon

I pray that everyone is OK. God bless our troops.


205 posted on 11/16/2006 7:23:39 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ohioWfan
Cut it out. Let information be conveyed without inserting your own ill informed opinions on this thread.

I see you also have an opinion - you know what they say...

206 posted on 11/16/2006 7:23:49 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: RaceBannon; freema

IMHO, a lot of stuff will be uncovered by various means in the years to come. Probably tens of thousands of tons of stuff buried in backyards, held under water of rivers by chains, and buried in the remote desert areas that fringe most of central Iraq. Prayers for our soldiers and the innocent Iraqi that are now possibly extremly sick to be returned to full health.


207 posted on 11/16/2006 7:24:13 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: jmc1969

http://egyptelection.com/content/view/704/39/

Have you heard anything about this?


208 posted on 11/16/2006 7:25:22 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Zhangliqun
You are assuming reporters were at the scene. They may not have been.

His article reads: There has been a weapons cache explosion that caused many, hundreds of people to be exposed to some chemical that was present in the weapons

I am allowed to assume, assuming this Freeper Exclusive is true.

And that is my assumption and I'm sticking to it.

209 posted on 11/16/2006 7:26:15 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: freema

No, but I wouldn't be suprised if it is real.


210 posted on 11/16/2006 7:26:16 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: ohioWfan
It makes a HUGE difference that there actually were WMD in Iraq.

Considering what has to be done to win in Iraq - please tell me why at this point why it makes a hill of beans. Leave it to the historians to sort out.

211 posted on 11/16/2006 7:26:23 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: VaMarVet
Again, so what? Add something constructive to how we now win this war.

Simply increasing its popular support by showing the rightness of our objectives from the start is broadly (but immeasurably) helpful. Mostly through politics, admittedly, but that's how real-world wheels begin turning.

212 posted on 11/16/2006 7:27:16 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: VaMarVet
Yes, I have an opinion, but I'm not on a thread where people are trying to find out about the well being of the troops trying discourage everyone by incessantly telling us that we are losing the war.

Most of us know better than to regurgitate MSM bilge.

I mean it. Cut it out. You've made your point.

213 posted on 11/16/2006 7:28:02 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Velveeta

Thanks for the research and ping Velveeta.


214 posted on 11/16/2006 7:28:38 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: VaMarVet

Public support is critical to the Iraq War and keeping the dems in Congress at bay. The dems in Congress are already planning many pre-war intel hearings.

The public not believing we are in a war based on lies is very important not just for keeping up public support on Iraq, but also being able to convince the US public about Iran.


215 posted on 11/16/2006 7:29:06 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: RaceBannon
Found this report concerning some of the 10th Mountain Divisions activities on November 11th. A few days too early perhaps for this event but it looks like they found some major players. Perhaps the interrogations of these guys by the Iraqi's led to the larger weapons cache talked about in the email that started this thread. My bold.

Web page containing the report

Soldiers Detain Suspected Terrorists, Seize Weapons Nov. 13, 2006 –
.......In another operation, Iraqi army and Multinational Division Baghdad soldiers seized a large weapons cache and detained three individuals in the Qa-Qaa apartment complex in Mahmudiyah, 30 kilometers south of Baghdad on Nov. 11.

Iraqi soldiers with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Brigade, 6th Iraqi Army Division, teamed up with a U.S. advisory team from 2nd Battalion, 15th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, and conducted a cordon-and-knock operation in the apartment complex.

Three 107 mm rockets, 24 82 mm mortar rounds, 17 60 mm mortar rounds, 19 60 mm mortar fuses, 100 mortar charges, two mortar tripods and aiming devices, a rocket-propelled-grenade launcher, an AK-47 assault rifle, an RPK medium machine gun, false identification cards, and four license plates were seized during the operation.

The most significant find in the cache was the discovery of 25 anti-armor improvised explosive device cover plates.

The operation was delayed briefly with the discovery of a car bomb parked near the apartment complex. An explosive ordinance team was brought in to dispose of the car bomb.

The operation was based on actionable intelligence collected from sources in the area, officials said. The detainees are in the custody of the Iraqi army for questioning.

216 posted on 11/16/2006 7:29:07 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SteveMcKing
Simply increasing its popular support by showing the rightness of our objectives from the start is broadly (but immeasurably) helpful. Mostly through politics, admittedly, but that's how real-world wheels begin turning.

Too late - at this point in the war most in the U.S. and the west could not care the least about any smoking gun that might turn up. Want to turn public opinion? Show progress in Iraq by conducting a successful Counterinsurgency campaign. Hint - hint - COIN is typically 20% military and 80% political...

217 posted on 11/16/2006 7:30:50 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: jmc1969

I hadn't seen it either.


218 posted on 11/16/2006 7:31:08 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: jmc1969

WELL,,,Somebody That Somebody E-mailed,,,mmmmm,,,
Still Watchin',,,We Must Look At All This Stuff...
We will see...


219 posted on 11/16/2006 7:31:24 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: VaMarVet

VaMarVet, you made your point. Now stop arguing with people who have for three years had it rammed down their throats that now WMDs were found in Iraq and it was a war based on falsehoods.

Hell, I was attacked about no WMDs in Iraq even today on another board.


220 posted on 11/16/2006 7:33:12 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: VaMarVet
I will say this only one time, and then I will leave the thread for its purpose.

The entire leftist line, which you obviously have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, is that there were NO WMD in Iraq, and that Bush lied to get us into this war.

The truth is that there were WMD and he didn't lie. When there is tangible proof as there may be here, it matters.

Obviously not to you........but then again, your source is the left, so it's not surprising.....

Now I am going to spend some time in prayer for our troops. You may continue to stay here argue that they are failing in their mission, which is clearly your sole intent on this thread.

221 posted on 11/16/2006 7:33:50 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan

And I'll keep making it until we start looking forward rather than in the rearview mirror. That will save the lives of our young ones - not figuring out where a 120mm chemical mortar shell was hidden pre-OIF...


222 posted on 11/16/2006 7:34:29 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: VaMarVet

The US public not believing we went to war based on a lies matters VaMarVet, it matters alot.


223 posted on 11/16/2006 7:36:16 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: freema; jmc1969
Have you heard anything about this?

Yes, I do remember that. April 2006

Google News search: Video Claims to Show Insurgents Dragging Burning Body of U.S. Pilot

224 posted on 11/16/2006 7:36:23 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: VaMarVet

Perhaps you would be more comfortable on DU, where such views are the norm. Here, you are slightly out of place.


225 posted on 11/16/2006 7:39:08 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: VaMarVet

Ah.... an effort to sound noble in your denial of your real purpose here. Nice try.


226 posted on 11/16/2006 7:39:21 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan
Obviously not to you........but then again, your source is the left, so it's not surprising.....

I wouldn't go there so fast. Disagreeing with the "right" does not equate. I like the term fair and balanced - yep - that is where I am coming from. By dismissing me as some leftist / commie tool you have cut off many like me who actually want to win in Iraq - many of them voted Dem for just those reasons. BTW - I voted for Allen and JoAnn Davis in VA…

227 posted on 11/16/2006 7:39:48 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: ohioWfan

I think so, glad you agree.


228 posted on 11/16/2006 7:40:29 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: VaMarVet

::ignore::


229 posted on 11/16/2006 7:41:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: VaMarVet
Thanks for admitting that you disagree with those of us who are 'right' and right about Iraq.

Give it up, Va. Your purpose is clear. No one here is fooled.

230 posted on 11/16/2006 7:42:06 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Calpernia

Good - I need to get out of here anyway. Maybe my expression of how I feel about the war is worth a banning. That might not be a bad thing...


231 posted on 11/16/2006 7:43:56 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: aflaak

ping


232 posted on 11/16/2006 7:44:06 PM PST by r-q-tek86 (Snakes can't be taught to walk.)
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To: justa-hairyape
I read that also justa-hairyape and thought perhaps that the demolition may have been performed a few days later.

But we will see.

233 posted on 11/16/2006 7:46:24 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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"The Rats will say Bush was preparing to plant a fake wmd cache and injured US and Iraqi forces in the botched attempt. I always know the libtard talking points because all you have to do is start with it was Bushs fault then work backwards to connect the dots to the actual event!
"


And then you call them idiots, morons and cretins because what is the point of having the WMD story come out AFTER the elections.


234 posted on 11/16/2006 7:46:49 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: VaMarVet

You can feel however you want and you can state your feelings. But, were you have crossed a line is trying to get others to feel the same way you do.


235 posted on 11/16/2006 7:47:26 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: tennmountainman
Great idea. All we need is some coverts without a camera and no MSM reporters imbeded to discover and accidentally explode a cache near SADIR or is that SADIST
236 posted on 11/16/2006 7:48:16 PM PST by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, increased taxes to bring them UP to the Poverty Level!)
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To: jmc1969
You can feel however you want and you can state your feelings. But, were you have crossed a line is trying to get others to feel the same way you do.

You give me way too much credit;-) Maybe I should look up the word debate in the dictionary again - the times are-a-changing.

237 posted on 11/16/2006 7:50:53 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: True Republican Patriot
"But the Demorats trying to trash America have maintained there were NO WMDs in Iraq and NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS!!! My Gosh, were they lieing to us to help the terrorists? or worse to undermine Our Nation??????
"


People who are ruthless to seize power rarely care who gets kill to achieve it.

Just remember the names of those who are selling us out, for the future.....
238 posted on 11/16/2006 7:51:07 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: VaMarVet
If you look up the word 'debate' in a dictionary, you'll see that it has a very different meaning than 'hijack.'

Others were doing the former, you were doing the latter.

239 posted on 11/16/2006 7:53:09 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: VaMarVet

There is no point in arguing with people who care about finding the main rational for this war. You can say your peace that you think it doesn't matter and move on, but getting into a debate over how others should feel about it is decidedly unhelpful.


240 posted on 11/16/2006 7:54:01 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: justa-hairyape

TANKS for the info,,,My house-mate's son is in that unit.
His Mom worries,,,
Prayers Up...


241 posted on 11/16/2006 7:54:55 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ohioWfan

Nice tagline BTW.


242 posted on 11/16/2006 7:58:01 PM PST by VaMarVet (General Zinni - dismissed for protecting us in dangerous times... Pass the ammunition.)
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To: TexKat

One of the things that is interesting about that report is that the 10th Mountain Division personal were serving an advisory roll. That could explain how they missed a bobby trap or missed an unmarked shell. I mean you can suggest to the Iraqis that they should look for a trap or suspect that the cache contains an unmarked nasty, but in the end it was probably up to the Iraqis (assuming the email report was true and the operation was handled the same way as in the above report).


243 posted on 11/16/2006 7:59:36 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: jmc1969
Okay - it is about time I moved on anyway. Point well taken about alternate views being unhelpful - I most certainly do not want to jolt anyone here out of their "comfort zone". Goodbye...
244 posted on 11/16/2006 8:01:32 PM PST by VaMarVet (General Zinni - dismissed for protecting us in dangerous times... Pass the ammunition.)
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To: jmc1969
Okay - it is about time I moved on anyway. Point well taken about alternate views being unhelpful - I most certainly do not want to jolt anyone here out of their "comfort zone". Goodbye...
245 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:03 PM PST by VaMarVet (General Zinni - dismissed for protecting us in dangerous times... Pass the ammunition.)
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To: Zhangliqun

Thanks, Z; great job!


246 posted on 11/16/2006 8:02:28 PM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: VaMarVet

Feeble response, VaMarVet. You got beat.


247 posted on 11/16/2006 8:04:24 PM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: ASA Vet

Has anyone heard from her after the story of the missing contractors came out?


248 posted on 11/16/2006 8:05:06 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Hope posting was not out of line. It was public. Probably best not to tell her about all this. At any rate that report states no US personal were harmed in that operation. The unit reported in the email was reported as 5/14. I am not military and do not know what that means. To a civilian like myself the email however does appear to be from a different unit. Let us hope it was all in error.
249 posted on 11/16/2006 8:09:22 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: VaMarVet
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Simply increasing its popular support by showing the rightness of our objectives from the start is broadly (but immeasurably) helpful. Mostly through politics, admittedly, but that's how real-world wheels begin turning.
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Too late - at this point in the war most in the U.S. and the west could not care the least about any smoking gun that might turn up. Want to turn public opinion? Show progress in Iraq by conducting a successful Counterinsurgency campaign. Hint - hint - COIN is typically 20% military and 80% political..."

In that case, NOT having a chunk of your own government and the media tards constantly giving hope and assistance to the enemy (and giving excuses to allies) is worth alot.
250 posted on 11/16/2006 8:13:33 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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