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Freeper exclusive: Weapons cache demolition causes many to be sick from exposure in Baghdad
private e-mails | 11/16/2006 | RaceBannon

Posted on 11/16/2006 4:54:12 PM PST by RaceBannon

I just received a private e-mail from someone I know from a Marine website who has family in Iraq. There has been a weapons cache explosion that caused many, hundreds of people to be exposed to some chemical that was present in the weapons.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushlied; bushtried; chemicalweapons; chems; iraq; nbc; rehirerumsfeld; rumint; weaponscache; wmd
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To: justa-hairyape
Coat of Arms and Motto Link. The Motto is SUIVEZ MOI (Follow Me).

STRYKEHORSE Coat of Arms

301 posted on 11/16/2006 11:09:23 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TexKat
Supposedly the 5th Squadron was going to be renamed the 2nd when it got back from Iraq.
302 posted on 11/16/2006 11:10:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: cgk

bump


303 posted on 11/16/2006 11:39:51 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Enosh

They move the goalposts. First it was no WMD. Then it was no STOCKPILES of WMD.


304 posted on 11/16/2006 11:42:20 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: VaMarVet

Considering Carl Levin, next chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, is not sure if Iran has a nuke program, it is VERY important and relevent to the war. Iraq is just one battle in a larger one. The "Bush Lied" lie has and will damage our efforts in dealing with the biggest threat now: IRAN.


305 posted on 11/16/2006 11:59:15 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: bitt

Thank you bitt.


306 posted on 11/17/2006 12:51:27 AM PST by Cindy
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To: RaceBannon

Has anyone heard of the local of this yet? I have a nephew in the green zone.


307 posted on 11/17/2006 2:06:14 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

More to the point, has anyone established whether or not it's a hoax?

I've yet to see any corroboratory reports anywhere.


308 posted on 11/17/2006 2:25:16 AM PST by Canard
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To: GoLightly; Allegra

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739974/posts?page=62#62

Here she is. Dang, Allegra, what in the world were you thinking, stepping away from the keyboard like that?! ; )
Glad to hear your voice. Add me to the worrywart pinglist : )


309 posted on 11/17/2006 3:00:17 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: TexKat; jmc1969

Thanks. I thought this was a new incident because of the date on the webpage.


310 posted on 11/17/2006 3:04:34 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: justa-hairyape

maybe not too early, it can take days to get time off to send a message hone, too!

Soldiers Detain Suspected Terrorists, Seize Weapons

Nov. 13, 2006 – Multinational Division Baghdad and Iraqi army soldiers detained seven suspected terrorists and seized two weapons caches in separate operations in and around Baghdad Nov. 11, military officials in Iraq reported. Multinational Division Baghdad soldiers detained four suspected terrorists and seized a weapons cache in one of the capital's western neighborhoods Nov. 11.

After witnessing suspicious activity, soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, searched four suspects. They found a rocket-propelled-grenade launcher, an RPG round, an AK-47, a heavy machine gun, three grenades, and two assault rifles with two 100-round belts of ammunition.

The suspects were detained for further questioning. An explosive ordnance disposal team later performed a controlled detonation of the weapons cache.

In another operation, Iraqi army and Multinational Division Baghdad soldiers seized a large weapons cache and detained three individuals in the Qa-Qaa apartment complex in Mahmudiyah, 30 kilometers south of Baghdad on Nov. 11.

Iraqi soldiers with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Brigade, 6th Iraqi Army Division, teamed up with a U.S. advisory team from 2nd Battalion, 15th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, and conducted a cordon-and-knock operation in the apartment complex.

Three 107 mm rockets, 24 82 mm mortar rounds, 17 60 mm mortar rounds, 19 60 mm mortar fuses, 100 mortar charges, two mortar tripods and aiming devices, a rocket-propelled-grenade launcher, an AK-47 assault rifle, an RPK medium machine gun, false identification cards, and four license plates were seized during the operation.

The most significant find in the cache was the discovery of 25 anti-armor improvised explosive device cover plates.

The operation was delayed briefly with the discovery of a car bomb parked near the apartment complex. An explosive ordinance team was brought in to dispose of the car bomb.

The operation was based on actionable intelligence collected from sources in the area, officials said. The detainees are in the custody of the Iraqi army for questioning.

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311 posted on 11/17/2006 3:11:51 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: VaMarVet; All
This is an update that I have received concerning time frames:

It happened either this past Monday or Tuesday. I talked to his wife Wednesday morning and she said that his unit was going into the sector of the city where the sickness was rampant in order to weed out the insurgents who were firing mortars and RPGs into their position.

As I said earlier, the insurgents claimed that the Americans "gassed" the Iraqi's, inciting a lot of backlash towards David's unit, resulting in the gunfire and mortars being fired at the 5/14 soldiers. For the insurgents to use the term "gassed" makes me think they knew of the WMDs and their location beneath the weapons cache.

That comment that the Iraqis accused the Americans of gassing people shows they knew something was going on, not just propaganda.

312 posted on 11/17/2006 3:17:29 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: stylin19a
the sarin subway attack in Japan was ideal conditons for sarin killing a bazillion people, yet I seem to recall hardly anybody died and there were hardly any injuries... i wonder why ?

If I recall the flaw was in the delivery system.

313 posted on 11/17/2006 3:20:17 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: do the dhue
DEMOCRATS FIND WMDs IN IRAQ!!!

The dems won the election on November 7, and they STILL haven't found Bin Laden yet!!

314 posted on 11/17/2006 3:21:34 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: MindBender26

I know nerve agents are, but I have been out too long to know how the detectors work and on what degree. I would bet the chemical detectors would as well as the nerve agent detectors do.


315 posted on 11/17/2006 3:22:41 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: RaceBannon

I'm still having a hard time thinking that something happened four days ago which lead to hundreds of people falling sick and the incident has been reported nowhere other than in this thread.

Surely, even if the US was successfully keeping somekind of news blackout, there would be other individuals in the area reporting it on the internet?


316 posted on 11/17/2006 3:40:40 AM PST by Canard
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To: Canard

My thoughts, too, however, it may be a wartime censorship?


317 posted on 11/17/2006 4:05:29 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Canard

True that Canard!


318 posted on 11/17/2006 4:09:20 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: RaceBannon; justa-hairyape

Your #311 was already posted on this thread. See post #216 by Freeper justa-hairyape.


319 posted on 11/17/2006 4:12:49 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ohioWfan

I'll join you in praying for our troops. Every day is a new challenge that they meet with valor and we owe them our prayers and total support.

Jan


320 posted on 11/17/2006 4:32:47 AM PST by OldFriend (WEAKNESS IS A PROVOCATION, AN INVITATION TO OUR FOES TO CONFRONT US)
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To: VaMarVet
Fighting a war to protect the security of the civilized world is not about 'feelings'.........it's about FACTS.

The facts, while they are ignored by the MSM, are tht there were WMD in Iraq, there were plans to make nuclear weapons, and they had the means to kill millions if they had the opportunity.

Saddam Hussein bought into the anti-war marchers all over the world and thought our President was another billclinton.

If those marchers had taken to the streets on behalf of SH innocent victims, he would have left the country and a multitude of lives would have been saved. He made a different choice and we had NO choice at all but to act.

321 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:05 AM PST by OldFriend (WEAKNESS IS A PROVOCATION, AN INVITATION TO OUR FOES TO CONFRONT US)
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To: OldFriend

I am waiting to see Sunday's NY Times Headline

"Bush's failure to Secure Iraq's WMD Causes Military and Civilian Deaths."




322 posted on 11/17/2006 4:51:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: TexKat
Also your Google link in #162 lists a link to the same article posted on another web site. I did not see that and had to find that article another way. Did not realize there was 2 pages to your google search. The article link is on page 1 second item. The same 10th Mountain Division article concerning operations in southern Baghdad is on 2 web sites. See ya later.
323 posted on 11/17/2006 4:54:58 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Have a good day justa-hairyape.


324 posted on 11/17/2006 5:06:53 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Allegra
Allegra have you heard anything about this:

Freeper exclusive: Weapons cache demolition causes many to be sick from exposure in Baghdad

325 posted on 11/17/2006 5:12:50 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: justa-hairyape; Canard; RaceBannon

WATCH THE VIDEO

Troops make impact in Iraq 11/16/06

The commander of the 10th Mountain Division's 2nd Brigade Combat Team says they don't need more US troops in Iraq; they need more Iraqi troops. Colonel Michael Kershaw held a video teleconference from Camp Striker Thursday to give an update on the unit's mission. As News 10 Now's Amy Ohler explains, the brigade is making significant accomplishments in Iraq.

Update from 2nd BCT in Iraq Updated: 11/16/2006

By: Amy Ohler The 2nd Brigade Combat Team deployed to Iraq in August. They've only been there a few months, but they're already making progress in the war-torn country.

Brigade Commander Colonel Michael Kershaw said since they've been there, they've discovered more than 240 roadside bombs.

"We have seen our casualties go way down as a result of really everybody's efforts, but in particular, the Gladiators Battalion effort on that," said Col. Michael Kershaw, 2nd Brigade Combat Team Commander.

While in Iraq, the brigade is working with the Iraqi security forces and training them to govern themselves. Colonel Kershaw said the Iraqis are making progress, and some units are now leading operations.

When Kershaw was asked if he thought more US troops were needed in Iraq, he said more Iraqi troops are needed hands down--not US troops.

"Today we were searching cache areas, and I tell you it's both a US and Iraqi mission, and the Iraqi soldiers, and I mean I think we have the greatest soldiers in the world, but they can smell out these caches better than we can," said Col Kershaw.

He also spoke about our recent election and mentioned the Iraqis are interested and tuned in to our political government.

Kershaw said their biggest accomplishment so far has been taking over the Yusufiyah power plant. Terrorists had been in control of the plant, which dates back to the Saddam Hussein regime.

326 posted on 11/17/2006 5:26:55 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

bttt


327 posted on 11/17/2006 5:40:49 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanx


328 posted on 11/17/2006 6:17:18 AM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: TexKat
Allegra have you heard anything about this:

I've heard some things about it, but I don't feel like I can say anything right now.

Sorry. I'm not trying to be vague; it's one of those things that has been discussed among some people, but I don't want to say anything yet, in case what I've heard is either erroneous or classified.

329 posted on 11/17/2006 6:31:31 AM PST by Allegra (Declaring Full Jihad on the Cut-and-Run Surrender Monkeys)
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To: justa-hairyape
I don't know the units of the 10th...but 5/14 would be the 5th Bn of the 14th Inf Rgt.

1/27 Wolfhounds!!!

330 posted on 11/17/2006 6:38:19 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: Allegra; TexKat
That lends a bit more credibility to the report. Time will tell - if true this can not be contained indefinitely.
Thanks and stay safe, Allegra!
331 posted on 11/17/2006 6:49:20 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks for posting this. I am very sorry to hear of the negative effects of this weapons cache destruction. It makes you wonder if this was more or less the plan when stored in such a mannor.

Hope the negative effects can be minimized for all concerned.


332 posted on 11/17/2006 7:20:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: b4its2late

Yep...everyone agreed...

http://www.schnittshow.com/timages/page/media/DemocratsWMDmontage.mp3


333 posted on 11/17/2006 7:27:30 AM PST by woollyone (We are travelers between the eternities- by His grace, may your eternity future be filled with Him.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Thanks for the specifics on the timeline!
334 posted on 11/17/2006 7:29:36 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: RaceBannon

Prayers for those affected.


335 posted on 11/17/2006 7:40:04 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: RaceBannon

There will be more of this, via Iran. We need to get out of the Iraqi kill zone then annihilate Iran. Otherwise our troops in Iraq will suffer mass casualties.

Once Iran is crushed, the rest will be easier.

It has started - the battle of the mushroom clouds.


336 posted on 11/17/2006 7:45:49 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: RaceBannon

bump


337 posted on 11/17/2006 8:16:02 AM PST by Tirian
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To: SJackson; cibco; sono; RasterMaster; 4butnomorethan30characters; HonestConservative; ...

ping


338 posted on 11/17/2006 8:23:09 AM PST by AliVeritas (Big Tent (We don't need no water, let the m*therf*cker burn))
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To: AliVeritas

Any links on this story? This seems quite interesting news indeed.


339 posted on 11/17/2006 8:28:01 AM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: AliVeritas

You mean from the WMDs that aren't there?


340 posted on 11/17/2006 8:34:25 AM PST by HonestConservative (Member of the National Sarcasm Society (like I need YOUR approval))
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To: soccer8; Allegra

I considered the report credible too, based on who posted it. Allegra's comments are pertinent though. This report sure did bring out the pollyannas ("there is no such thing as wmd in Iraq, tra-la"), though, didn't it?


341 posted on 11/17/2006 8:50:02 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

I've checked over at our favorite "resistance website" albasrah.net. They don't have anything up on it yet but they do claim that our soldiers are gunning innocent young men down for no reason while the "resistance fighters" are killing members of the "puppet government" at will. Watch for a news flash from Time or Newsweak claiming more atrocities by our soldiers.


342 posted on 11/17/2006 9:10:12 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (All aboard the Chickenhawk Express... www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: MizSterious
We'll see. Saddam likely transferred much of his WMD to Syria (preferably, he hid it in the desert). We'll just have to be patient and see if there was a WMD dump burried under conventional munitions. If so, the story will have legs, although it will be spun as "Bush failed to secure WMD" and "US troops harm Iraqis with chemical cloud" by the MSM.

I wouldn't get my shorts in a wad yet, regardless of the side of the WMD issue you may be on.

343 posted on 11/17/2006 9:22:58 AM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: VaMarVet

By chance, are you a Buchananite?


344 posted on 11/17/2006 9:28:22 AM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths, and lies, and distortions..)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I admit: I missed your meaning on first reading.

So I second your redeployment of the weapons cache in the way you meant. :^))


345 posted on 11/17/2006 9:29:43 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: VaMarVet

Still avoiding the issue. We OBVIOUSLY have to talk in great depth about strategy and tactics. But there's no reason we can't walk and chew gum at the same time by devising a strategy and by holding accountable the appeasers in high places who will do everything they can to DERAIL any such strategy.

All the talk in the world on a strategy for victory is useless if the public isn't galvanized behind the effort and the reflexively anti-war crowd isn't finally shunted back off to the lunatic fringe, otherwise the slightest setback makes everyone want to quit and elect more appeasers.

I'm guessing you want to hear what I think, and one part of it is that we have to interdict insurgent supply lines that make them viable, most of which are coming out of Syrian and Iran. Sooner or later, barring a revolution by the Iranian people, war with Iran is inevitable.

And this is precisely why the Home Front is the most crucial theater in the war: only a public as hardcore behind the war effort as it was in WW2 will make it possible for us to get enough troops to fight on several fronts. The Appeaso-crats who want us to believe in their nihilist/relativist/post-modern way that there is no such thing as treason or sedition, only "dissent", will make that impossible as long as they are in the majority.


346 posted on 11/17/2006 9:37:58 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: VaMarVet
By dismissing me as some leftist / commie tool you have cut off many like me who actually want to win in Iraq - many of them voted Dem for just those reasons.

You really think the Democrats want to win in Iraq? All they ever talk about is how it's a war just for oil and Halliburton, and Bush lied to get us in there and how he should be impeached. Kerry ran on the "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time", and proceeded along with his supporters to stuff the Iraq war into the template of the Democrats' favorite war, Vietnam (because we lost). Murtha regularly accuses his fellow Marines of war crimes while saying absolutely NOTHING about their accomplishments and calls for "redeployment over the horizon" (withdrawal).

On top of that, they remain suspiciously silent when crackpot theories are voiced by the Moore/Sheehan crowd about how the Jews and/or neocons blew up the WTC and it was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon. Or in some cases, like Howard Dean and Cynthia McKinney and Maxine Waters, they openly endorse such theories.

Sounds to me like the Dems think the war is a horrible mistake at best and an evil conspiracy at worst. If they really believe that, then the ONLY possible course of action is immediate withdrawal. Please explain to me how any of that (or anything else leading Democrats have said) indicates the Democrats are gung-ho to win. When Democrats say "stop", are you in the habit of telling everyone they really mean "go"?

Look pal, I've got nothing personal against you, I don't hate you, I don't want you dead, I don't wish you any harm. I would just like you to stop dodging our questions and repeating "well, let's just look to the future on how to win". Have you ever heard the saying "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"? We can't win by voting for those who want us to lose.

347 posted on 11/17/2006 10:12:02 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: Humble Servant
Feeble response, VaMarVet. You got beat.

Like a rented mule. He did nothing but dodge question after question and basically say regarding the Dems and the stupid things they have said and done on the war: "Show's over, move along, nothing to see here."

He then complains about how we're not willing to look at alternative views but DOESN'T OFFER ANY. He just says, let's just forget the past and think about how to win, as if we're not doing that, but offers not victory strategies of his own other than to vote Democrat.

I think he's very young...

348 posted on 11/17/2006 10:19:53 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: stylin19a
the sarin subway attack in Japan was ideal conditons for sarin killing a bazillion people, yet I seem to recall hardly anybody died and there were hardly any injuries...

12 died with hundreds more injured. A lot depends on how quickly/widely it is dispersed. Apparently it didn't go all that far because there's no breeze in a subway.

349 posted on 11/17/2006 11:18:01 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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To: Canard
I'm still having a hard time thinking that something happened four days ago which lead to hundreds of people falling sick and the incident has been reported nowhere other than in this thread.

Surely, even if the US was successfully keeping somekind of news blackout, there would be other individuals in the area reporting it on the internet?

It could be an issue of not wanting to reveal sources and methods.

350 posted on 11/17/2006 11:24:59 AM PST by Zhangliqun (The fetal position has yet to scare a bully.)
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