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Arctic resists warming
adn.com ^ | 11/17/06 | ROBERT LEE HOTZ

Posted on 11/17/2006 7:36:24 AM PST by Risha

Arctic resists warming RESEARCHERS: New patterns of cooling ocean currents, winds suggest region is struggling to keep its balance.

By ROBERT LEE HOTZ Los Angeles Times

(Published: November 17, 2006) An international team of scientists reported Thursday that rising temperatures are steadily transforming the Arctic -- warming millions of square miles of permafrost, promoting lush greenery on previously arid tundras and steadily shrinking the annual sea ice.

Yet the researchers also found new patterns of cooling ocean currents and prevailing winds that suggested the Arctic, long considered a bellwether of global warming, may be reverting in some ways to more normal conditions not seen since the 1970s.

Taken together, these findings may be evidence, the researchers said, of the region struggling to keep its balance, as rising temperatures slowly overturn the long-established order of seasonal variations.

"This is a region that is fighting back," said lead author Jacqueline Richter-Menge, a civil engineer at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory in Hanover, N.H. "There are things that showed signs of going back to norms, trying to right themselves under very dire circumstances."

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Apprently the Arctic didn't get the memo.
1 posted on 11/17/2006 7:36:24 AM PST by Risha
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To: Risha

Gee, I thought the scientific community had irrefutably determined that man controlled the Earth......


2 posted on 11/17/2006 7:37:29 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Risha

It used to be "the sky is falling." Now its "the climate is changing, the climate is changing."

At least that's the opinion of top climate scientist, Dr. Chicken Little.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 7:38:30 AM PST by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high....McCain.")
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To: Risha

Check this out: http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Arctic.htm
Excellent summary of how the global warming crowd lies about the Arctic.


4 posted on 11/17/2006 7:41:43 AM PST by bobsatwork
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To: Nextrush
Man is changing the climate but the artic is "fighting" back.

Please...

5 posted on 11/17/2006 7:42:35 AM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Risha
reverting in some ways to more normal conditions . . .

. . . as a result of Global Warming, no doubt.

6 posted on 11/17/2006 7:43:04 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: Risha

Alright Artic, we are about to pull the plug if you don't toe the line.


7 posted on 11/17/2006 7:43:11 AM PST by Southerngl (When people fail to control themselves, they settle for controlling others.)
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To: Risha

Quote from article: "New patterns of cooling ocean currents, winds suggest region is struggling to keep its balance."

Struggle? A region essentially devoid of people can struggle? Where do these people learn to write?


8 posted on 11/17/2006 7:43:23 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Risha

In other news; it's been reported that the Sahara resists cooling.


9 posted on 11/17/2006 7:44:20 AM PST by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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To: Risha

It must be the mid term election results. The Dems are in charge now so the Artic is fighting back.


10 posted on 11/17/2006 7:45:22 AM PST by kabar
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To: Nextrush

"suggest region is struggling to keep its balance."

Huh? The geophysical forces that determine climate are adjusting themselves in an effort to maintain the statut-quo? This is absolute lunacy.

Funny, BTW, that those who believe that the earth is an organism have a notion that the earth's preferred state of affairs is that which is most hospitable to man. So they try to get us to stop global warming by warning of the human cost. If the earth is an organism, why should it care about mankind? And if man is a threat to the earth, shouldn't the earth itself be voluntarily and consciously adjusting the climate to the detriment of man as a form of "pest control"?


11 posted on 11/17/2006 7:45:30 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: kabar

Quick - we need a conspiracy to undermine the Arctic struggle for whatever.


12 posted on 11/17/2006 7:48:01 AM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: Risha
"This is a region that is fighting back," said lead author Jacqueline Richter-Menge, a civil engineer at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory in Hanover, N.H. "There are things that showed signs of going back to norms, trying to right themselves under very dire circumstances."

Gee, the arctic region is quite feisty. I didn't know it even realized, what was happening to it. It's nice to see that the arctic is aware and paying attention. I give it kudos for having the will to fight back.

(snicker... nice science...)

13 posted on 11/17/2006 7:48:26 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: x_plus_one

quagmire - we need to redeploy to the moon..


14 posted on 11/17/2006 7:49:26 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Do SUV's dream of electric-hybrid sheep at night???


15 posted on 11/17/2006 7:52:20 AM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: Risha

So...are these "scientists" suggesting that the Hand of God is at play here? How else can a 'region' be a conscious being?


16 posted on 11/17/2006 7:53:55 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Risha

"The tundra is becoming greener with the growth of more shrubs, he said. This development is causing problems in some areas as herds of reindeer migrate."

So what will these enviro whackos do about this???


17 posted on 11/17/2006 7:56:19 AM PST by g33k355 ("He that cannot reason is a fool. He that will not is a bigot. He that dare not is a slave.")
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To: Risha
..region is struggling to keep its balance. "This is a region that is fighting back,"

Wow, what personification! This entity, Gaea derived or a separate subordinate god, is now seen by the mighty scientific community as combating the evil machinations of powerful, capitalist Man. We must take pause and be impressed.

18 posted on 11/17/2006 7:56:54 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: randog

Probably in reference to the limited homeostatic control of a chaotic climatic system.


19 posted on 11/17/2006 7:57:11 AM PST by KevinGray
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To: Risha
Man is changing the climate but the artic is "fighting" back.

Betcha the fighting is being done by the Viking Kitties.

20 posted on 11/17/2006 7:57:25 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Risha
The reason it is getting cooler is because of global warming silly!

< /sarcasm >

21 posted on 11/17/2006 7:59:11 AM PST by lormand (Weinerism is a mental disorder)
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To: Risha
Local weather variations at Earth's upper latitudes create a seesaw of annual hot spots and cold sinks above the Arctic Circle that, combined with incomplete data records, can easily disguise longer regional climate trends.

weasel words....obfuscation

This whole article is an answer to the question:

What is bullsh*t?

22 posted on 11/17/2006 7:59:33 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: Risha

This will dash the hopes of RATs in congress to parade some eskimos sweating in mesh tank tops under the bright lights of Henry Waxman's committee, with the intend to spread the man made global warming hoax.


23 posted on 11/17/2006 8:01:29 AM PST by lormand (Weinerism is a mental disorder)
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To: Risha
...warming millions of square miles of permafrost, promoting lush greenery on previously arid tundras and steadily shrinking the annual sea ice.

Oh God! We have got to to, somehow, stop this from happening!

24 posted on 11/17/2006 8:11:23 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
In this corner........."The Arctic is Fighting Back" - (Rocky 2)

Animism - The doctrine that supernatural beings (or souls) endowed with reason, intelligence and volition inhabit ordinary objects, tools, animals and natural phenomena. The human being is often regarded as on a roughly equal footing with animals, plants and natural forces.

(.....more worship of nature's pagan gods by the junk environmentalists of the Left).

Leni

25 posted on 11/17/2006 8:11:42 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

So with 'incomplete data' they decided their 'facts' aren't wrong, the earth is 'hiding' them from everyone else.

Nutjobs.


26 posted on 11/17/2006 8:12:31 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Risha
" . . . may be reverting in some ways to more normal conditions not seen since the 1970s."

This phrase underscores one of the unstated - and erroneous - presuppositions of the global warming fanatics. Why do they take the situation 30 or 40 years ago as the NORMAL earthly climate? The climate is always changing, and it is completely arbitrary to set the situation 30 or 40 years ago as the baseline for a "normal" climate. The climate has seen extremes of heat and cold throughout its history. Who, then, can say what is normal?
27 posted on 11/17/2006 8:18:35 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, avoid the moor, where the powers of darkness are exalted.")
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
"suggest region is struggling to keep its balance."

Have these folks become converts to intelligent design theory?
28 posted on 11/17/2006 8:20:04 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, avoid the moor, where the powers of darkness are exalted.")
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To: MinuteGal

It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature.


29 posted on 11/17/2006 8:28:23 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: MinuteGal
I vote for anthromorphism AS in -- Anthropomorphism is the attribution of human characteristics and qualities to non-human beings, objects, natural, or supernatural phenomena. A form of personification (applying human or animal qualities to inanimate objects), anthropomorphism is similar to prosopopoeia (adopting the persona of another person). Animals, the forces of nature, and unseen or unknown authors of chance are frequent subjects of anthropomorphosis. The term comes from two Greek words, άνθρωπος (anthrōpos), meaning "human", and μορφή (morphē), meaning "shape" or "form." The suffix '-ism' originates from the morpheme '-isma' in the Greek language. All that college 'education' and this is what we get, RAH is spinning in his grave.
30 posted on 11/17/2006 8:35:49 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

"Have these folks become converts to intelligent design theory?"

I didn't even want to go there, as I don't have time, but the parallel with intelligent design theory is here, as it is with "organic food" - which requires a belief in intelligent design, even though most people who embrace organic food probably don't realize it.

Under Darwinism, plants and animals adapt so as to insure their survival. One means of that adaption is to make it unlikely other creatures will eat you.

Yet if we believe that the most perfect food for humans is "natural" food, then the "natural" food's ambition must be to cater to humans, which is not consistent with Darwinism. Either that, or the reason that the "natural" food is the best for humans is that God made it that way.

It will not do to say that humans adapted to the food that pre-existed, becuase that would not explain how rhubarb, for example, has edible stalks and poisoned leaves, or how some mushrooms are edible and others are deadly. No, Man survived for eons eating natural food because that is all that was on offer.

There is a counter argument to my "natural food" theory which is sort of consistent with Darwinism, that the food makes itself palatable to humans so that humans will grow lots of it, therefore perpetuating the food's existence, but that would have to be some very shrewd and clever food.





31 posted on 11/17/2006 8:46:46 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Risha

Man is not the one who will destroy the earth. The one who made it will.


32 posted on 11/17/2006 8:49:33 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Risha

The NOAA has already reported that the oceans have been cooling for the last 10 years.


33 posted on 11/17/2006 8:55:27 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Risha

Note the Gaia overtone, as though the Earth were a pagan mother goddess trying to "fight back". That's a little sick to me.


34 posted on 11/17/2006 9:04:04 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

Last week we had above average temps. This week we have below average temps. Sounds like the averages have averaged themselves out.


35 posted on 11/17/2006 9:06:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Risha

Al Gore better change his crusade to saving us from manbearpig.


36 posted on 11/17/2006 9:10:44 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Risha
The Arctic "struggles" with adjusting "it's" temperatures ?

now here is a perfect example of environMENTALism.

To be imperically precise, the author is obviously predjudiced by flawed scientific emotional extrapolation with an anthropomorphic model of global temperature analysis...

in laymens terms....an environmental kook or "tree hugger"

37 posted on 11/17/2006 9:21:09 AM PST by KTM rider ( " US politics is like a NASCAR race, it only turns left ")
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To: KTM rider

lmao, mother nature (who's obviously liberal) is taking a stand against SUV driving Republicans but alas, if we don't act now, all is lost. We must get with the program, buy a hybrid car; but flying around the globe in a private jet (like to UN meetings on global warming) is fine. Mother nature makes allowances for Al Gore and Hollywood.


38 posted on 11/17/2006 9:27:47 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: vladimir998

Some of the best poets--Wordsworth, Coleridge, Milton--have mentioned that if they put consciousness into inanimate objects when they were learning how poetry is done they would receive a severe discipline from their writing teacher.


39 posted on 11/17/2006 9:37:25 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Nextrush
It used to be "the sky is falling." Now its "the climate is changing, the climate is changing."

Or, "the sea level is rising, the sea level is rising!"

40 posted on 11/17/2006 9:45:03 AM PST by Disambiguator (;^))
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To: vladimir998

Obviously they were referring to Gaia, the all encompassing spirit of the earth, also costar of Captain Planet.


41 posted on 11/17/2006 9:49:36 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: Risha
New patterns of cooling ocean currents, winds suggest region is struggling to keep its balance.

How do inanimate objects "struggle"?

42 posted on 11/17/2006 9:57:59 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (`)
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To: Risha

STRUGGLING TO KEEP ITS BALANCE???

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

Other than: We're not seeing the predicted global warming in the Arctic.


43 posted on 11/17/2006 10:00:31 AM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: ASOC
Alas, I knew that my "animism" doctrine was close, but not right on the button. However, I didn't have time to do the research for the more precise appellation I had in mind but couldn't articulate. Mental block.

You're correct that "anthromorphism (......the attribution of human characteristics.....to such things as objects, the forces of nature......") hits the nail on the head

Hence, "the Arctic fights back....." and "the Arctic resists.....".

ASOC to the "ism" rescue!

Leni

44 posted on 11/17/2006 10:03:40 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Oct here in the sub-arctic was below average temperature. Nov so far is way below average temperature. This isn't the Arctic, of course, merely next-door to the Arctic.


45 posted on 11/17/2006 10:03:59 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: corlorde

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46 posted on 11/17/2006 10:04:52 AM PST by satan
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To: Risha

Don't confuse the global warming dogma with facts...


47 posted on 11/17/2006 10:07:59 AM PST by joonbug
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To: bobsatwork

Great link - thanks!


48 posted on 11/17/2006 10:43:30 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: AFreeBird

"In other news; it's been reported that the Sahara resists cooling."

In other news, Part 2:

The Florida Everglades resists the onslaught of alligators and air-boats.


49 posted on 11/17/2006 10:46:11 AM PST by bunches (Irish people enjoy whimsical humor)
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To: MinuteGal

No rescue attempt ; )

Animism was not a bad choice, it just carries a religious overtone.
And given the Left, where Gaia Syndrome passes for some as a personal religion.....

I just thought anthromorphism might be the better pick, as the article did not seem to have religious overtones, only bad writing.

I got lucky on a slow and cold morning, Friday being free for me.

Have fun, life has so much to enjoy.


50 posted on 11/17/2006 10:47:05 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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