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Thanksgiving holiday is misconstrued (Ithaca Prof: holiday means racism, genocide, etc.)
The Ithacan | Park 269 ^ | November 16, 2006 | By Brooke Hansen / Guest writer

Posted on 11/17/2006 12:18:08 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The celebration of a mythical Thanksgiving did not happen in this country for several hundred years after the event, by which time American Indians had been colonized, assimilated and removed from many of their ancestral lands, usually through dubious treaties and other means that are still being questioned today. Thanksgiving has been further colonized by capitalism in recent times, further removing us from the true meanings of “thanksgivings” that Native people honor on many occasions throughout the year.

Much like American-Indian mascots, people say that American Indians are being honored by the remembrance of that “first” Thanksgiving, which children purportedly embody with their construction paper and dyed chicken feather headdresses. If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools, and the current struggles for land, sovereignty and cultural survival.

Brooke Hansen is an associate professor of anthropology. E- mail her at kbhansen@ithaca.edu.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cityofevil; ithaca; liberalidiots; thanksgiving
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1 posted on 11/17/2006 12:18:10 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; TLBSHOW; ...
City of Evil bump:


2 posted on 11/17/2006 12:19:00 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

BRooke Hanson - Please feel free to kiss my hairy white arse.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 12:19:24 PM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Brooke Hansen is an associate professor of anthropology. E- mail her at kbhansen@ithaca.edu.

Anthropology, according to David Horowitz, is a field of study which has been entirely co-opted by the left-wing moonbats.

4 posted on 11/17/2006 12:19:41 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Well, the 'Natives' weren't always there either....survival of the fittest baby!


5 posted on 11/17/2006 12:20:15 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Democrats In Control! (Where's my friggin' free stuff?))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

More leftist tripe.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 12:20:41 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
kbhansen@ithaca.edu

Let's all email a "happy Thanksgiving" to this lunatic.
7 posted on 11/17/2006 12:21:35 PM PST by Jeffrey_D. (Seek first to understand, then to be understood)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yeah. Fine. Great. Whatever.


8 posted on 11/17/2006 12:21:47 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

We would have had some type of harvest holiday anyway - most cultures do.


9 posted on 11/17/2006 12:22:13 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What do they do, put crack in their drinking water...


10 posted on 11/17/2006 12:22:14 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Now they get gobs of government money, breaks on state taxes, discounts on tobacco, preferential hiring, and many other benes that whitey can only dream about. The real sad thing is that since the libs are taking over, they'll probably get even more handouts at the expense of us "rich" white folks.


11 posted on 11/17/2006 12:22:46 PM PST by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Much like American-Indian mascots, people say that American Indians are being honored by the remembrance of that “first” Thanksgiving...

I didn't know that Thanksgiving was supposed to honor the indians...I thought it was more of "Thank God we didn't ALL die" from the pilgrims.

12 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:00 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: Rummyfan

"If we want to honor American Indians..........and the current struggles for land, sovereignty and cultural survival."

Don't forget Casinos. Yea baby!!!!


13 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:12 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I cant believe I actually thought about going to school there. Talk about giant sigh of relief.


14 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:15 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: All

Off Topic...

A THANKSGIVING CELEBRATION!
http://www.truthusa.com/ThanksGIVING.html


15 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:19 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The history channel is pushing this too.

However these ivory tower commies think May 1 is still a worker's holiday rather than the start of spring fun day that it used to be.


16 posted on 11/17/2006 12:23:44 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Think how much better off we would be still hunting and gathering; nothing like gathering berriers for 200 million people. I am so ashamed of being a white American male, it is certainly my fault! /s


17 posted on 11/17/2006 12:24:57 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: longtermmemmory

"We suck." -typical liberal


18 posted on 11/17/2006 12:24:57 PM PST by reeb88 (How much fun are 72 virgins anyway? How much crying can one martyr take?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Not this crap again!
19 posted on 11/17/2006 12:25:29 PM PST by Ken522
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To: spikeytx86

One of my coworkers has a daughter at Ithaca College (she's studying music). $45K a year.... Bob won't be retirirng for a couple more years.....


20 posted on 11/17/2006 12:26:17 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

All I can say is that we're planning to victimize another turkey this Thanksgiving.


21 posted on 11/17/2006 12:26:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Real Story Behind Thanksgiving
The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
What Really Saved the Pilgrims
Thanksgiving: The Producers' Holiday
The Pilgrims’ Real Thanksgiving Lesson
Creating Our Own Blessings
Whom Should We Thank
Giving Thanks for the Big Tent
Find some actual excerpts from Plymouth Colony
Governor William Bradford's diary HERE
Property Rights?  SOME U.S. Senators are confused about, and hostile to, the very concept -- even calling "extreme" the teachings of Madison, Jay and Jefferson HERE!
"Private property is the most important guarantee of freedom." -- F.A. Hayek 
"Property must be secured, or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams 
"The true foundation of republican government is the equal right of every citizen in his person and property and in their management." -- Thomas Jefferson
"No freedom is secure if your property rights are not secure." -- Neal Boortz
"If you can't own (and use) property, you are property." - Wayne Hage

22 posted on 11/17/2006 12:26:22 PM PST by FreeKeys ("Property must be secured, or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Leave to Cornell University to save the turkeys with an offer of tenure.


23 posted on 11/17/2006 12:26:47 PM PST by .cnI redruM (2008 is another day and another battle.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm just thankful that this guy isn't one of the relatives I'll be dining with next Thursday.


24 posted on 11/17/2006 12:27:02 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (We'll be back.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The celebration of a mythical Thanksgiving did not happen in this country for several hundred years after the event ...
Brooke, you ignorant yankee. The first Thanksgiving took place in 1619 at the Berkeley Plantation, Virginia.
25 posted on 11/17/2006 12:27:46 PM PST by eastsider
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Yeah, the only holiday the Indians celebrated was the one to commemorate when those noble natives, the Iroquois, managed to completely wipe out their neighbors, the Eries. But they didn't have a word like genocide to throw around back then.

That and when they took some white captive to burn at the stake. That was always cause for a celebration, and a chance for the women to have a little fun with fire and teach the kids how to torture people.

Oops, I bet the prof never heard of that part...

26 posted on 11/17/2006 12:30:49 PM PST by Kenton
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Miserable people who just can't shut up and enjoy a holiday...


27 posted on 11/17/2006 12:31:42 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
As a retired college history teacher I can guarantee you that this kind of tripe originates in the misplaced pride of someone who thinks the ignorant masses don't know as much as he or she does. "Intellectuals" particularly those of a leftist persuasion--have an (ignorant) pride in what they think they know and presume radical positions on that knowledge to basically impress themselves, their peers, parents and perhaps their pets. Much of what originates from the academy in history is generally motivated by these same behaviors and it shameful that academics lack intellectual integrity to the extent that all they can do is to nod their heads in some sort of ideological consensus. History can be spun and there are many academics who have made lucrative careers in doing so.
28 posted on 11/17/2006 12:35:35 PM PST by yetidog
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools, and the current struggles for land, sovereignty and cultural survival lose our shirts at one of their casinos.
29 posted on 11/17/2006 12:38:35 PM PST by Argus
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To: Rummyfan

I fail to see how it can be considered a field of study. Is it in being able to date things that makes it acceptable? Anybody can dig up some bones from 4,500 years ago.


30 posted on 11/17/2006 12:38:57 PM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hanson sounds like he might be a racist and a bigot who has waaaaaay too much free time on his hands. He needs to get a REAL job. He doth whine too much.


31 posted on 11/17/2006 12:39:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

On an only partially related note, do we have an official FR Thanksgiving recipe thread this year?


32 posted on 11/17/2006 12:40:55 PM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican; FlingWingFlyer

He is probably a she, given that the first name is "Brooke"


33 posted on 11/17/2006 12:42:55 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: LongElegantLegs
...thought it was more of "Thank God we didn't ALL die" from the pilgrims.

Yes, the Pilgrims were expressing gratitude to God for blessing them with survival, a pretty good harvest that first year & peaceful relations with the (prone to violence) Natives (who had NO concept of land ownership).

God is receiving far shorter shrift than the Native Peoples from many of our post-modern 'Thanksgiving' Day celebrations!

34 posted on 11/17/2006 12:43:33 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I have Mohawk,Irish,Dutch, and Anglo ancestry. My nation backed the Brits in the revolution and got creamed for it. The Indians were not a peace loving people, they fought other Indian nations for land like any other empire of the time did. They allied with various colonial powers to fight the others for privilege from the allied power. About the best way I can put it is imagine 200 years from now you are reading a text book about Iraq and it refers to the Iraqi's "as a peace loving people who never quarreled with each other until the imperialist Americans ventured in" same shit has happened with the Indians.

Have a happy thanksgiving and rejoice that our for fathers overcame a enemy whose sole aim was total domination of the land by any means necessary and I ain't talking about the British, because with out them we may be speaking Mohawk right now :)
35 posted on 11/17/2006 12:44:43 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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"If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools . . . "

If there had been genocide, we wouldn't have given them land and they wouldn't now exist in greater numbers than before the "genocide." Yes, things were done then - such as the boarding schools - which now seem wrong, but they were considered benign and even enlightened by the people who implemented those policies.

The conquest of the American Indian only seems barbarous because it was one of the most recent historical instances of that particular type of conquest, and a relatively benign form, compared to most conquests known to history. And how can we have "taken" lands for which - by the Indians' own admission - they had no concept of ownership?
36 posted on 11/17/2006 12:45:46 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, avoid the moor, where the powers of darkness are exalted.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Liberal Creed

1) Every country but this one is wonderful, especially France.
2) Every time but this one was wonderful, except here.
3) If you feel good about your country or yourself, you are not fully educated.
4) If you are not riddled with self-doubt as to what is right and what is wrong, then you think in dangerous black-and-whites and must be a evil Bible thumper.
5) If you do not feel guilty about all the horrible things your ancestors did that you are responsible for, you must be an evil white Republican.
6) If you are in some way enjoying your life, it must be because you are exploiting others, and you need to be fined a great deal of money to be given to others who didn't work for it.
7) If you have ever been fired because you didn't show up, didn't speak the language, couldn't do basic math, were disrespectful of customers and coworkers, it must be management's fault.
8) You may worship only the God of Tolerance. You have no right to an opinion on anything mentioned above if it in any way would make others feel bad about themselves, because we want everyone to feel positively about themselves, you ignorant, evil, small-minded, wicked, judgmental, bigoted, privileged, elitist, Christian bastard.

37 posted on 11/17/2006 12:47:05 PM PST by 50sDad (I respect other religions by allowing them the right to worship. But they still are wrong.)
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To: wastedyears

Anthropology went off the rails with Margaret Mead and her mentor/girlfriend and their paleolib protofeminist claptrap. It hasn't been the same since. I'll bet there isn't 1 in 10 anthropologists today that doesn't have, or wish they had, a shrine to her in their offices.


38 posted on 11/17/2006 12:47:19 PM PST by SargeK
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To: wastedyears
Anybody can dig up some bones from 4,500 years ago.

I'm proof of that. I have mastadon bones...10,000 years +

Is ah now an anthropolollolologist?

39 posted on 11/17/2006 12:47:50 PM PST by digger48
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Harvest festivals have been celebrated around the world for millennia, long before anybody landed a ship in what is euphemistically known as the 'New World'.

Thanksgiving is nothing new and greatly predates even the invention of writing. Over the centuries, these festivals have been accompanied by rituals, and feasting, and general merry-making to the point of excess.

Why does anyone begrudge the self-satisfied bourgeoise a day, or a long weekend, of excess of food consumption, football watching, and yes, exuberance in vulgar display in conjunction with extravagance in conspicuous wastefulness. Got to hand to it to a society that knows how to indulge themselves.


40 posted on 11/17/2006 12:48:16 PM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: spikeytx86

Ha! Me too.


41 posted on 11/17/2006 12:48:32 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: yetidog

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't "Days of Thanksgiving" first popularized during the Civil War, declared by Lincoln as prayer days for Union victories, as after Antietam and Gettysburg?


42 posted on 11/17/2006 12:48:36 PM PST by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Screw the Indians. If they were not strong enough to keep their lands then they don't deserve them. To the victors go the spoils.


43 posted on 11/17/2006 12:50:15 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: SargeK

All you need to learn is what trace chemicals to look for pertaining to the era, and you're a-okay.


44 posted on 11/17/2006 12:51:35 PM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If we want to honor American Indians, we need to tell them the gig is up..Get over it!! Victimology keeps them at the bottom of the education and lifestyle rankings, while keeping them at the top of the crime rankings, and dim-witted associate professors are perpetuating hope of a day gone by giving thanks for the wind. The Blacks are getting it, and succeeding.


45 posted on 11/17/2006 12:51:55 PM PST by Melinda
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To: FreeKeys

Great links and very informative!

Thank you!


46 posted on 11/17/2006 12:52:44 PM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: .cnI redruM

LOLOL


47 posted on 11/17/2006 12:53:39 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Just give it a rest..I am so sick and tired of these liberal atheist writing anything about my country..always trying to start something on race based crap..Anyway I am going to have a great thanksgiving with my family and friends this year and will not even think about this pinko..My Indian great,great grandmother never taught racism she loved everyone..
48 posted on 11/17/2006 12:55:14 PM PST by Beth528
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To: All

We never forget to give thanks for genocide at our house.


49 posted on 11/17/2006 12:56:02 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Could be but that's aways "iffy" when you're dealing with Liberal kooks.


50 posted on 11/17/2006 12:59:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
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