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Thanksgiving holiday is misconstrued (Ithaca Prof: holiday means racism, genocide, etc.)
The Ithacan | Park 269 ^ | November 16, 2006 | By Brooke Hansen / Guest writer

Posted on 11/17/2006 12:18:08 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The celebration of a mythical Thanksgiving did not happen in this country for several hundred years after the event, by which time American Indians had been colonized, assimilated and removed from many of their ancestral lands, usually through dubious treaties and other means that are still being questioned today. Thanksgiving has been further colonized by capitalism in recent times, further removing us from the true meanings of “thanksgivings” that Native people honor on many occasions throughout the year.

Much like American-Indian mascots, people say that American Indians are being honored by the remembrance of that “first” Thanksgiving, which children purportedly embody with their construction paper and dyed chicken feather headdresses. If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools, and the current struggles for land, sovereignty and cultural survival.

Brooke Hansen is an associate professor of anthropology. E- mail her at kbhansen@ithaca.edu.

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To: jonascord
George Washington, November 18, 1775, General Orders

Head Quarters, Cambridge, November 18, 1775.

Parole Amboy. Countersign Bristol.

There was a mistake in the Entry of the General Orders of yesterday. The Hon: the Continental Congress have thought proper to allow the first and second Lieutenants, the same pay, viz: Eighteen Dollars a month to each and the Ensigns thirteen Dollars and 1/3 of a dollar.

The Commissary General to order all the Horns of the Bullocks, that are killed for the Use of the Army, to be saved and sent to the Qr Mr General, who is also to provide as many as he can get, and have the whole made into good powder horns, for the Use of the troops.

The Honorable the Legislature of this Colony having thought fit to set apart Thursday the 23d of November Instant, as a day of public thanksgiving "to offer up our praises, and prayers to Almighty God, the Source and Benevolent Bestower of all good; That he would be pleased graciously to continue, to smile upon our Endeavours, to restore peace, preserve our Rights, and Privileges, to the latest posterity; prosper the American Arms, preserve and strengthen the Harmony of the United Colonies, and avert the Calamities of a civil war." The General therefore commands that day to be observed with all the Solemnity directed by the Legislative Proclamation, and all Officers, Soldiers and others, are hereby directed, with the most unfeigned Devotion, to obey the same.

Any Non Commissioned Officers, or Soldiers, confin'd on Account of leaving the Detachment, commanded by Col Arnold, in any of the main, or quarter Guards of the Army, are to be immediately released.

George Washington, November 30, 1777, General Orders

Head Quarters, White Marsh, November 30, 1777.

Parole Northampton. Countersigns Greenland, Portsmouth.

On the 25th of November instant, the Honorable Continental Congress passed the following resolve, vizt:

Resolved. That General Washington be directed to publish in General orders, that Congress will speedily take into consideration the merits of such officers as have distinguished themselves by their intrepidity and their attention to the health and discipline of their men; and adopt such regulations as shall tend to introduce order and good discipline into the army, and to render the situation of the officers and soldiery, with respect to cloathing and other necessaries, more eligible than it has hitherto been.

Forasmuch as it is the indispensible duty of all men, to adore the superintending providence of Almighty God; to acknowledge with gratitude their obligations to him for benefits received, and to implore such further blessings as they stand in need of; and it having pleased him in his abundant mercy, not only to continue to us the innumerable bounties of his common providence, but also, to smile upon us in the prosecution of a just and necessary war, for the defence of our unalienable rights and liberties.78

[Note 78: This preliminary statement was taken from the resolve of Congress of November 1 recommending the States to set apart a day of Thanksgiving. It was to Washington on November 7 and answered by him on November 10.]

It is therefore recommended by Congress, that Thursday the 18th. day of December next be set apart for Solemn Thanksgiving and Praise; that at one time, and with one voice, the good people may express the grateful feelings of their hearts, and consecrate themselves to the service of their divine benefactor; and that, together with their sincere acknowledgements and offerings they may join the penitent confession of their sins; and supplications for such further blessings as they stand in need of. The Chaplains will properly notice this recommendation, that the day of thanksgiving may be duly observed in the army, agreeably to the intentions of Congress.

AFTER ORDERS

The whole army are to be under arms to morrow morning, at five o'clock, if it should not rain or snow. Lord Stirling's division are to lay upon their arms and be ready to turn out at a minute's warning.

George Washington, December 17, 1777, General Orders

Head Quarters, at the Gulph, December 17, 1777.

Parole Warwick. Countersigns Woodbridge, Winchester.

The Commander in Chief with the highest satisfaction expresses his thanks to the officers and soldiers for the fortitude and patience with which they have sustained the fatigues of the Campaign. Altho' in some instances we unfortunately failed, yet upon the whole Heaven hath smiled on our Arms and crowned them with signal success; and we may upon the best grounds conclude, that by a spirited continuance of the measures necessary for our defence we shall finally obtain the end of our Warfare, Independence, Liberty and Peace. These axe blessings worth contending for at every hazard. But we hazard nothing. The power of America alone, duly exerted, would have nothing to dread from the force of Britain. Yet we stand not wholly upon our ground. France yields us every aid we ask, and there are reasons to believe the period is not very distant, when she will take a more active part, by declaring war against the British Crown. Every motive therefore, irresistably urges us, nay commands us, to a firm and manly perseverance in our opposition to our cruel oppressors, to slight difficulties, endure hardships, and contemn every danger. The General ardently wishes it were now in his power, to conduct the troops into the best winter quarters. But where are these to be found ? Should we retire to the interior parts of the State, we should find them crowded with virtuous citizens, who, sacrificing their all, have left Philadelphia, and fled thither for protection. To their distresses humanity forbids us to add. This is not all, we should leave a vast extent of fertile country to be despoiled and ravaged by the enemy, from which they would draw vast supplies, and where many of our firm friends would be exposed to all the miseries of the most insulting and wanton depredation. A train of evils might be enumerated, but these will suffice. These considerations make it indispensibly necessary for the army to take such a position, as will enable it most effectually to prevent distress and to give the most extensive security; and in that position we must make ourselves the best shelter in our power. With activity and diligence Huts may be erected that will be warm and dry. In these the troops will be compact, more secure against surprises than if in a divided state and at hand to protect the country. These cogent reasons have determined the General to take post in the neighbourhood of this camp; and influenced by them, he persuades himself, that the officers and soldiers, with one heart, and one mind, will resolve to surmount every difficulty, with a fortitude and patience, be coming their profession, and the sacred cause in which they are engaged. He himself will share in the hardship, and partake of every inconvenience.

To morrow being the day set apart by the Honorable Congress for public Thanksgiving and Praise; and duty calling us devoutely to express our grateful acknowledgements to God for the manifold blessings he has granted us. The General directs that the army remain in it's present quarters, and that the Chaplains perform divine service with their several Corps and brigades. And earnestly exhorts, all officers and soldiers, whose absence is not indispensibly necessary, to attend with reverence the solemnities of the day.

George Washington, December 22, 1778, General Orders

Head Quarters, Middle Brook, Tuesday, December 22, 1778.

Parole Narraganset. Countersigns Otis, Portsmouth.

At a General Court Martial whereof Majr. Genl. Lord Stirling was President, held the 4th. of July last at Brunswick and at other times and places afterwards by Adjournment for the trial of Majr. Genl. Lee on the following charges:

First: For disobedience of orders in not attacking the Enemy on the 28th. of June agreeable to repeated instructions.

Secondly: For Misbehaviour before the Enemy on the same day by making an unnecessary, disorderly and shameful Retreat.

Thirdly: For disrespect to the Commander in Chief in two Letters dated the 1st. of July and the 28th. of June.

The Court passed sentence on the Case in the following Words: "The Court having considered the first Charge against Major General Lee, the Evidence and his defence, are of opinion that he is guilty of disobedience of Orders in not attacking the Enemy on the 28th. of June agreeable to repeated instructions; being a breach of the latter part of Article 5th. section 2nd. of the Articles of War.

The Court having considered the second Charge against Major General Lee, the Evidence and his defence, are of opinion he is guilty of Misbehaviour before the Enemy on the 28th. of June by making an unnecessary, and in some few instances a disorderly retreat, being a breach of the 13th. Article of the 13th. Section of the Articles of War.

The Court having considered the third charge against Major General Lee, are of opinion that he is guilty of disrespect to the Commander in Chief in two letters dated the 1st of July and 28th. of June, being a breach of the 2nd. Article, section 2nd. of the Articles of War.

The Court do sentence Major General Lee to be suspended from any command in the Armies of The United States of North America for the term of twelve Months.

The Honorable the Congress have been pleased to confirm the foregoing sentence as follows:

In Congress, December 5, 1778.

Resolved, "That the sentence of the general court martial upon Major General Lee, be carried into execution."

At a General Court Martial whereof Majr. General Lincoln was President held at White Plains the 23rd. of August last for the trial of Majr. Genl. St. Clair on the following charges:

First: With Neglect of duty under the 5th. Article of the 18th. section of the rules and Articles of War.

Second: With Cowardice, with Treachery, with Incapacity as a General, respectively, under the 5th. Article of the 18th. section of the rules and articles of War.

Third: With Treachery, under the 5th. Article of the 18th. section of the rules and articles of War.

Fourth: With inattention to the Progress of the Enemy, with Treachery, with Incapacity as a General respectively, under the 5th. Article of the 18th. section of the Rules and Articles of War.

Fifth: With shamefully abandoning the Post of Ticonderoga and Mount Independence in his charge, under the 12th. Article of the 13th. section of the rules and articles of War.

The Court passed sentence on this case in the following words: "The Court having duly considered the charges against Major General St. Clair and the evidence, are unanimously of opinion that he is not guilty of either of the charges against him and do unanimously acquit him of all and every of them with the highest Honor."

The Honorable, The Congress have been pleased to confirm the above sentence as follows:

In Congress, December 16, 1778.

Resolved, "That the sentence of the general court martial, acquitting Major General St. Clair, with the highest honor, of the charges exhibited against him, be, and is hereby confirmed."

At a General Court Martial held at the White Plains whereof Major General Lincoln was President for the trial of Major General Schuyler:

The Court having considered the charge against Major General Schuyler, the evidence and his defence, are unanimously of opinion that he is not guilty of "Any Neglect of duty in not being at Ticonderoga as charged," and the Court do acquit him with the highest Honor.

The Honorable, The Congress have been pleased to confirm the above sentence as follows:

In Congress, December 3, 1778.

Congress took into consideration the proceedings of the court martial in the trial of Major General Schuyler; Whereupon,

Resolved, That the sentence of the general court martial acquitting Major General Schuyler, with the highest honor, of the charges exhibited against him, be, and is hereby, confirmed.

The Honorable The Congress having been pleased by their Proclamation of the 21st. of November last to appoint Wednesday the 30th. instant as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise for the great and numerous Providential Mercies experienced by the People of These States in the course of the present War, the same is to be religiously observed throughout the Army in the manner therein directed, and the different Chaplains will prepare discourses suited to the Occasion.

In consideration of the exhausted State of the Country on this communication with respect to Forage, the necessary supplies of which will be with the greatest difficulty procured, after all the care, industry and oeconomy that can be used; The Commander in Chief has directed the Quarter Master General to send away from camp all the public horses that in his opinion can possibly be spared from the ordinary service of the Army. In addition to this precaution as in a stationary Camp much fewer horses will be wanted by the officers of the line in execution of the duties of their respective stations than at other times, the General particularly requests, that the General Officers will retain no more horses in camp for the use of themselves and their suites than are absolutely necessary, and that the Field Officers do endeavour to make one horse a piece suffice; The other regimental officers who are entitled to keep horses will be able to dispense with them during the Winter.

The same recommendation extends to all the staff officers entitled to keep horses, to which the General requests the attention of the heads of the several departments. The Commissary of Forage will receive the supernumerary horses and have them well provided for at a convenient place at some distance from Camp.

A Brigadier and Field Officers for the day are to be appointed. They will see the Pickets properly posted, visited and superintend the police and discipline of the camp as usual.

A Captain, two Subs, three Serjeants, a Drum and Fife and Fifty Rank and File to be sent to Bonam Town as an advanced Picket to be reliev'd every Monday 'till further orders. The Officer commanding it will receive his instructions from the Adjutant General.

George Washington, November 27, 1779, General Orders

Head Quarters, Moore's House, Saturday, November 27, 1779.

Parole Landaft. Countersigns Lexington, Leeds.

The Honorable the Congress has been pleased to pass the following proclamation.

Whereas it becomes us humbly to approach the throne of Almighty God, with gratitude and praise for the wonders which his goodness has wrought in conducting our fore-fathers to this western world; for his protection to them and to their posterity amid difficulties and dangers; for raising us, their children, from deep distress to be numbered among the nations of the earth; and for arming the hands of just and mighty princes in our deliverance; and especially for that he hath been pleased to grant us the enjoyment of health, and so to order the revolving seasons, that the earth hath produced her increase in abundance, blessing the labors of the husbandmen, and spreading plenty through the land; that he hath prospered our arms and those of our ally; been a shield to our troops in the hour of danger, pointed their swords to victory and led them in triumph over the bulwarks of the foe; that he hath gone with those who went out into the wilderness against the savage tribes; that he hath stayed the hand of the spoiler, and turned back his meditated destruction; that he hath prospered our commerce, and given success to those who sought the enemy on the face of the deep; and above all, that he hath diffused the glorious light of the gospel, whereby, through the merits of our gracious Redeemer, we may become the heirs of his eternal glory: therefore,

RESOLVED, That it be recommended to the several states, to appoint Thursday, the 9th of December next, to be a day of public and solemn thanksgiving to Almighty God for his mercies, and of prayer for the continuance of his favor and protection to these United States; to beseech him that he would be graciously pleased to influence our public councils, and bless them with wisdom from on high, with unanimity, firmness, and success; that he would go forth with our hosts and crown our arms with victory; that he would grant to his church the plentiful effusions of divine grace, and pour out his holy spirit on all ministers of the gospel; that he would bless and prosper the means of education, and spread the light of christian knowledge through the remotest corners of the earth; that he would smile upon the labours of his people and cause the earth to bring forth her fruits in abundance; that we may with gratitude and gladness enjoy them; that he would take into his holy protection our illustrious ally, give him victory over his enemies, and render him signally great, as the father of his people and the protector of the rights of mankind; that he would graciously be pleased to turn the hearts of our enemies, and to dispense the blessings of peace to contending nations; that he would in mercy look down upon us, pardon our sins and receive us into his favor, and finally, that he would establish the independence of these United States upon the basis of religion and virtue, and support and protect them in the enjoyment of peace, liberty and safety.33

[Note 33: In the General Orders this resolve was condensed by sundry omissions.]

A strict observance to be paid by the Army to this proclamation and the Chaplains are to prepare and deliver discourses suitable to it.34

[Note 34: The Varick Transcripts of Washington's General Orders in the Library of Congress has the following note at this point: "The Army marching by Divisions and Brigades into Winter Quarters."]

Continental Congress, October 11, 1782, Proclamation on Thanksgiving Observation

By the United States in Congress assembled.

PROCLAMATION.

IT being the indispensable duty of all Nations, not only to offer up their supplications to ALMIGHTY GOD, the giver of all good, for his gracious assistance in a time of distress, but also in a solemn and public manner to give him praise for his goodness in general, and especially for great and signal interpositions of his providence in their behalf: Therefore the United States in Congress assembled, taking into their consideration the many instances of divine goodness to these States, in the course of the important conflict in which they have been so long engaged; the present happy and promising state of public affairs; and the events of the war, in the course of the year now drawing to a close; particularly the harmony of the public Councils, which is so necessary to the success of the public cause; the perfect union and good understanding which has hitherto subsisted between them and their Allies, notwithstanding the artful and unwearied attempts of the common enemy to divide them; the success of the arms of the United States, and those of their Allies, and the acknowledgment of their independence by another European power, whose friendship and commerce must be of great and lasting advantage to these States:----- Do hereby recommend to the inhabitants of these States in general, to observe, and request the several States to interpose their authority in appointing and commanding the observation of THURSDAY the twenty-eight day of NOVEMBER next, as a day of solemn THANKSGIVING to GOD for all his mercies: and they do further recommend to all ranks, to testify to their gratitude to GOD for his goodness, by a cheerful obedience of his laws, and by promoting, each in his station, and by his influence, the practice of true and undefiled religion, which is the great foundation of public prosperity and national happiness.

Done in Congress, at Philadelphia, the eleventh day of October, in the year of our LORD one thousand seven hundred and eighty-two, and of our Sovereignty and Independence, the seventh.

JOHN HANSON, President.

Charles Thomson, Secretary.

George Washington, November 14, 1782, General Orders

Head Quarters, Newburgh, Thursday, November 14, 1782.

Parole Quebec. Countersigns Rockingham, Shrewsbury.

For duty tomorrow the v.d. Massachusetts regret.

The enormities which have been committed, and daily committing by the soldiery since we have quitted the Field are scandalous beyond description and a disgrace to any army; they must and shall be corrected, or the greatest severity take place. To effect this purpose the commander in chief desires that Major General Gates, the other General officers and commanding officers of brigades, in this Cantonment, will meet at General Gates's quarters tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock and having examined the situation of the camps they will establish such Picquets and Guards, and order such patrols as in their Judgment shall be sufficient to restrain the Soldiers within proper bounds, and every officer from the Major General, to the lowest grade is hereby called upon, for his own credit, as well as the reputation of the service to exert all his abilities to check an evil which is not less dishonorable to tile troops than oppressive to the Inhabitants.

The disorderly custom of suffering soldiers for whose conduct the officers cannot be responsible, to ramble about the country contrary to tile practice of all well regulated Armies, must be abolished; and the mode of giving passes restricted and put upon a proper footing. none are to be from Camp after retreat beating.

The rolls are frequently to be called at irregular hours during the night.

A Grand provost will be appointed by the General and there will be two field officers of the day to superintend the police of this army, who will see that the duties here enjoyned are regularly performed and that summary and exemplary punishments shall be inflicted on offenders. This order is to be read at three several evening roll callgs, and the Colonels or Commanding officers of regiments will be responsible that every soldier under their orders, is made acquainted with it that none may plead ignorance. It was much the Generals wish to have made the duty, not only while the hurts were in building but through the winter as easy and light as possible to the troops; they must therefore consider that this depends entirely upon their own behavior, for they alone must abide the consequencies, if their irregular conduct shall render an increase of duty and rigour indispensable.

Congress having been pleased to set a part Thursday the 28th. instant as a day of Solemn thanksgiving to god for all his Mercies, The General desires it may be most religiously observed by the army; and that the Chaplains will prepare discourses suitable to the occasion.

The regimental Surgeons are desired to make weekly returns of their sick, to Doctr. Townsend1 at the flying hospital, New Windsor on Saturdays.

[Note 1: David Townsend, Hospital Physician and Surgeon of the Continental Army. He served to the dose of the war.]

George Washington, November 27, 1782, General Orders

Head Quarters, Newburgh, Wednesday, November 17, 1782.

Parole Gibraltar. Countersigns Hannover, Ilchester.

For the day tomorrow Lt. Colonel Hull, and Major Morrill.

For duty the 2d. Newhampshire regiment.

The honorable the Congress have been pleased to pass the following Resolve.

By the United States in Congress assembled November 12th. 1782.

Whereas no provision has been made by Congress for the geographers to the armies of the United States; therefore,

Resolved, That the geographer to the main army and the geographer to the southern department, be each of them allowed sixty dollars per month, three rations per day, forage for two saddle horses, one two-horse covered waggon, six dollars and two-thirds of a dollar per month for a servant, for whom they shall be entitled to draw one ration per day, and the cloathing allowed to a private soldier.

That the assistant geographers if such officer shall be judged necessary by the Commander in Chief, be allowed thirty dollars per month, one ration per day, and forage for one saddle horse.

That when chain-bearers shall be employed, not being soldiers, they shall each be allowed half a dollar per day.

The Cloathier general having reported that he can make a distribution of shoes, stockings, and a few blankets to the troops, the regimental Paymasters are directed to call for their respective proportions.

The Commander in Chief has the pleasure of announcing that a delivery of two shirts per man will shortly be made to the whole Army.

Tomorrow being thanksgiving day a Gill of West India rum per man is to be delivered to the troops.

The Fatigue party from the 10th. Massa. regimt. employed in removing Military Stores from Fishkill landing and Fishkill are to be relieved this afternoon by a like number from the 9th. The 10th. regiment being to march to Verplanks point tomorrow to assist in repairing the Fortifications at that post. Colonel Tupper will please to apply at Head Quarters this evening for instructions.



51 posted on 11/17/2006 1:03:57 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: GunnyHartman

I think there is one thing that will cure the university system. Make they subject to true competition. Eliminate the non-dischargability of student loans.

If students can eliminate their student loans due to having worthless left wing educations, perhaps that will inspire universities to be more worth while.


52 posted on 11/17/2006 1:03:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just like Lisa Simpson

53 posted on 11/17/2006 1:04:55 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm thankful I won't have to sit down at the table with her, either.


54 posted on 11/17/2006 1:05:58 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (We'll be back.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What an AZZHAT!

It's a day to thank God for all our blessings not the least of which is living in and being a citizen of The United States of America.


55 posted on 11/17/2006 1:11:31 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (HOOAH! It's an Army thing.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Everybody knows that American Indians were bucolic flower-smellers before the evil white devils showed up. But the revenge of the one-armed bandits is sweet...


56 posted on 11/17/2006 1:12:24 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

And another America hating, capitalism hating, leftist windbag raises their ugly head.


57 posted on 11/17/2006 1:12:32 PM PST by BadAndy (Speaking truth to wackos)
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To: Rummyfan
Bob won't be retirirng for a couple more years.....

Ya, but he is still all smiles...


58 posted on 11/17/2006 1:13:45 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Translation: All different tribes of Indian equate to one race, therefore since one tribe of Indians died at wounded Knee, all Indian Tribes were murdered.

It's classic spin off the Feminist: If one woman is beaten, then all women are being beaten.

59 posted on 11/17/2006 1:14:50 PM PST by Alia
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To: LongElegantLegs

Really! They were invited to honor and thank God, not the indians. Cheez.


60 posted on 11/17/2006 1:18:57 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

In Canada, we simply give thanks for a good harvest -- no Pilgrims or Indians involved. It's always celebrated on the second Monday of October.


61 posted on 11/17/2006 1:21:17 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I went to school with a boy named Brooke.


62 posted on 11/17/2006 1:22:31 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: FreeKeys

Thanx FreeKeys!


63 posted on 11/17/2006 1:32:55 PM PST by Edgerunner (Better RED than DEAD)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

i bet this guy has no problem with mexico's citizens coming here illgally and colonizing.


64 posted on 11/17/2006 1:33:28 PM PST by beansox
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is so poorly written...bad syntax and mismatched nouns and adjectives. I have to wonder of English is Hansen's first or second language?


65 posted on 11/17/2006 1:35:54 PM PST by Palladin ("Open a new window; open a new door; travel a new highway.")
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To: Palladin

"wonder if" (bad typo)


66 posted on 11/17/2006 1:37:38 PM PST by Palladin ("Open a new window; open a new door; travel a new highway.")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
In Canada, we simply give thanks for a good harvest...

BTW, whatever happened to the Native Canadians who were living in those parts before the French & English ripped off THEIR land?

67 posted on 11/17/2006 1:40:47 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
And on Boxing day, Canadians settle disputes from the year just passed by squaring off and beating each other.


What? Thats not what you do on Boxing day?

68 posted on 11/17/2006 1:45:21 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: O Neill; USFRIENDINVICTORIA
BTW, whatever happened to the Native Canadians who were living in those parts before the French & English ripped off THEIR land?

Canada was previously inhabited by seals. And being the blood thristy scum bags that white males are, they clubbed them all to death. Then proceeded to slap around their parts with the clubs, and thus was born Hockey!

69 posted on 11/17/2006 1:48:17 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord
...and thus was born Hockey!

ROFL...those poor seals really got pucked by the Whitey, forked-tongued, slave-trader, woman-oppressors I guess...

70 posted on 11/17/2006 1:55:01 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: O Neill; USFRIENDINVICTORIA
ROFL...those poor seals really got pucked by the Whitey, forked-tongued, slave-trader, woman-oppressors I guess...

Yes, but they did redeem themselves when they invented The Canadian Ballet!

71 posted on 11/17/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Thanksgiving: Just another day of liberal self-flagellation and hand-wringing.


72 posted on 11/17/2006 1:59:36 PM PST by philled ("Enshrine mediocrity and the shrines are razed."-- Ellsworth Toohey)
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To: O Neill
Never happened. The aboriginals did it to themselves; with their open-borders immigration policies.
73 posted on 11/17/2006 1:59:52 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: michigander
Somehow, these proclamations seemed to skip right over the Pilgrim/Indian thing. With all this talk about an Almighty, I'm surprised Ol' GW hasn't already been consigned to the Memory Hole...

Thanks, by the way, for the education.

74 posted on 11/17/2006 2:02:07 PM PST by jonascord ("Don't shoot 'em! Let 'em burn!...")
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To: Lunatic Fringe
"Miserable people who just can't shut up and enjoy a holiday..."

Happy Thanksgiving - 2006

75 posted on 11/17/2006 2:04:32 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: Phantom Lord

"Head hockey" is popular during the seal hunt (according to radical environmental organizations.)


76 posted on 11/17/2006 2:14:04 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: jonascord
I'm surprised Ol' GW hasn't already been consigned to the Memory Hole...

LOL! Ol' GW is impossible to completely consign down the memory hole.

IMO, the major reason the libs need to discredit the pilgrims is because an integral part of their success as colonists was the absolute rejection of the, socialist, communal farming system they instituted when they first arrived in favor of a private ownership system that flourished in comparison.

It failed miserably for the same reasons socialist systems will always fail. The productive portion of a society will grow tired of producing for people that merely leech off their labor.

Now there is a lesson that has been largely, consigned to the memory hole.

77 posted on 11/17/2006 2:59:45 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: navyguy; Edgerunner; michigander; All
You're welcome!

Here's an emailable version. Copy this and email it to everyone you care about  -- and ask them to do the same:
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The Real Story Behind Thanksgiving

Did you know that the first [Plymouth Colony Pilgrim's] Thanksgiving was a celebration of the triumph of private property and individual initiative?

William Bradford was the governor of the original Pilgrim colony, founded at Plymouth in 1621. The colony was first organized on a communal basis, as their financiers required. Land was owned in common. The Pilgrims farmed communally, too, following the "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" precept.

The results were disastrous. Communism didn't work any better 400 years ago than it does today. By 1623, the colony had suffered serious losses. Starvation was imminent.

Bradford realized that the communal system encouraged and rewarded waste and laziness and inefficiency, and destroyed individual initiative. Desperate, he abolished it. He distributed private plots of land among the surviving Pilgrims, encouraging them to plant early and farm as individuals, not collectively.

The results: a bountiful early harvest that saved the colonies. After the harvest, the Pilgrims celebrated with a day of Thanksgiving -- on August 9th.

Unfortunately, William Bradford's diaries -- in which he recorded the failure of the collectivist system and the triumph of private enterprise -- were lost for many years. When Thanksgiving was later made a national holiday, the present November date was chosen. And the lesson the Pilgrims so painfully learned was, alas, not made a part of the holiday.

Happily, Bradford's diaries were later rediscovered. They're available today in paperback. They tell the real story of Thanksgiving -- how private property and individual initiative saved the Pilgrims.

This Thanksgiving season, one of the many things I'm thankful for is our free market system (imperfectly realized as it is). And I'm also grateful that there are increasing numbers of Americans who are learning the importance of free markets, and who are working to replace government coercion with marketplace cooperation here in America and around the world.

Paul Schmidt

PS: A special thanks to long-time Advocate volunteer Cris Everett, who told us about this neglected bit of history several years ago, and who celebrates Thanksgiving on -- you guessed it -- August 9th.

-- copied from http://FreedomKeys.com/thanksgiving.htm  which was copied from the Nov. 20, 1997 issue of  THE LIBERATOR ONLINE at http://www.theadvocates.org/liberator/vol-02-num-21.htm

for more detailed accounts see The Great Thanksgiving Hoax  at http://snipurl.com/apur
The Pilgrims’ Real Thanksgiving Lesson  at 
http://snipurl.com/av27
How Capitalism Saved America  at
http://snipurl.com/11lxq
Thanksgiving: The Producers' Holiday at http://snipurl.com/apuv
and How Private Property Saved the Pilgrims at http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3507051.html
Find general commentaries, Creating Our Own Blessings at  http://snipurl.com/apuyand 
Who Else Should We Thank?  at http://snipurl.com/av9x
ALSO SEE: Giving Thanks for the Big Tent HERE: http://snipurl.com/11kt0
Find some actual excerpts from Plymouth Colony Governor William Bradford's diary:HERE: http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1678
And finally, for those of you unfortunate enough to have to deal with primitive, fanatical self-righteous altruists, check out THIS page: http://snipurl.com/kj23   AND  THIS page:  http://FreedomKeys.com/paradox.htm#pcdt
 

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78 posted on 11/17/2006 3:30:26 PM PST by FreeKeys ("It is the institution of private property that protects and implements the right to disagree."ARand)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating.

It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving's real meaning.

The official story has the pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620-21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The Pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them.

The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America.

The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hardworking or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

In his 'History of Plymouth Plantation,' the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years, because they refused to work in the fields. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." The crops were small because "much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable."

In the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622, "all had their hungry bellies filled," but only briefly. The prevailing condition during those years was not the abundance the official story claims, it was famine and death. The first "Thanksgiving" was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men.

But in subsequent years something changes. The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty," Bradford wrote, "and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God." Thereafter, he wrote, "any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day." In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn.

What happened?

After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, "they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop." They began to question their form of economic organization.

This had required that "all profits & benefits that are got by trade, working, fishing, or any other means" were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, "all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock." A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take out only what he needed.

This "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that "young men that are most able and fit for labor and service" complained about being forced to "spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children." Also, "the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak." So the young and strong refused to work and the total amount of food produced was never adequate.

To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of famines.

Many early groups of colonists set up socialist states, all with the same terrible results. At Jamestown, established in 1607, out of every shipload of settlers that arrived, less than half would survive their first twelve months in America. Most of the work was being done by only one-fifth of the men, the other four-fifths choosing to be parasites. In the winter of 1609-10, called "The Starving Time," the population fell from five-hundred to sixty.

Then the Jamestown colony was converted to a free market, and the results were every bit as dramatic as those at Plymouth. In 1614, Colony Secretary Ralph Hamor wrote that after the switch there was "plenty of food, which every man by his own industry may easily and doth procure." He said that when the socialist system had prevailed, "we reaped not so much corn from the labors of thirty men as three men have done for themselves now."

Before these free markets were established, the colonists had nothing for which to be thankful. They were in the same situation as Ethiopians are today, and for the same reasons. But after free markets were established, the resulting abundance was so dramatic that the annual Thanksgiving celebrations became common throughout the colonies, and in 1863, Thanksgiving became a national holiday.

Thus the real reason for Thanksgiving, deleted from the official story, is: Socialism does not work; the one and only source of abundance is free markets, and we thank God we live in a country where we can have them.


79 posted on 11/17/2006 3:37:25 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Blah, Blah, Blah. The hate America first crowd strikes again and again, and again.


80 posted on 11/17/2006 3:38:54 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: FreeKeys

;-)


81 posted on 11/17/2006 3:58:57 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
The aboriginals did it to themselves...

Thanks for the info. I admit I need to brush-up on my Canadian history...and the term 'aboriginals' is a better moniker. (:>)

82 posted on 11/17/2006 4:07:06 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Buck W.

I hope we have a FR recipe this year. It's very enjoyable and eatable! So far, my menu for this Thanksgiving dinner is: Roast Turkey with stuffing, creamed onions, creamed corn, cranberry sauce, salad and pumpkin pie. We also give great thanks to being Americans. God Bless America and God Bless our military!


83 posted on 11/17/2006 4:08:41 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: O Neill
I'm 4th or 5th generation Canadian -- I consider myself a "native".

History is open to interpretation -- I figure mine is as good as anyone's. Just ask any "First Nation" person (the latest PC term for "Indian") what bad immigration policy leads to.
84 posted on 11/17/2006 4:16:13 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Buck W.

Here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1737577/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1731677/posts


85 posted on 11/17/2006 4:27:53 PM PST by Rte66
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To: MPJackal
cultural survival.

What do you call a beer can on the side of the road in Oklahoma?

An Indian artifict...

What do you call a half-full can of beer on the side of the road in Oklahoma?

A rare Indian artifict....

86 posted on 11/17/2006 4:37:24 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* I'm not a racist, but I play one on the Internet!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Just goes to show that educated folks can be stupid, as well.


87 posted on 11/17/2006 4:38:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I went to a website which has Thanksgiving cards and sent one. Wonder if I will hear back.


88 posted on 11/17/2006 4:38:26 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: beansox

The guy is a woman. Her name is Brooke.


89 posted on 11/17/2006 4:42:21 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: All
Is it true that kemo sabe is an Apache term for a horse's butt?
90 posted on 11/17/2006 4:49:37 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Buck W.

I hope we have a FR recipe this year. It's very enjoyable and eatable! So far, my menu for this Thanksgiving dinner is: Roast Turkey with stuffing, creamed onions, creamed corn, cranberry sauce, salad and pumpkin pie. We also give great thanks to being Americans. God Bless America and God Bless our military!


91 posted on 11/17/2006 5:16:49 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: O Neill
What does 'kemo sabe' mean? Turns out there has been much conjecture & anthropological research (not by the Brooke above). What I had heard is not correct...

One of Gary Larson's Far Side cartoons shows the Lone Ranger looking in an Indian dictionary and discovering that kemosabe is "an Apache expression for a horse's rear end".

Other conjecture...

Another suggestion has been that Tonto, (whose name means "stupid" according to some interpretations) responded by calling the Lone Ranger "qui no sabe" which roughly translates from Spanish as "he who knows nothing" or "clueless."

92 posted on 11/17/2006 5:41:01 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

93 posted on 11/17/2006 5:45:10 PM PST by bannie
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To: All
And there are more possibilities...

According to Rob Malouf, a grad student in linguistics at Stanford, there's another possibility: "According to John Nichols' Concise Dictionary of Minnesota Ojibwe, the Ojibwe word `giimoozaabi' means `to peek' (it could also mean `he peeks' or `he who peeks'). Rob continued: "There are several words with the same prefix ["giimooj," secretly] meaning things like `to sneak up on someone'.... It is quite plausible that `giimoozaabi' means something like `scout'.... `Giimoozaabi' is pronounced pretty much the same as `kemosabe' and would have been spelled `Kee Moh Sah Bee' at the turn of the century."

94 posted on 11/17/2006 5:55:26 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: O Neill
Rounding out, then, before #100 (and note the racist overtones in the UC Berkeley scholar's thesis)...

==>Dr. Goddard, of the Smithsonian Institution, was reported as believing that Kemo Sabe was from the Tewa dialect. He supported his contention by calling on the "Ethnogeography of the Tewa Indians" which appeared in the 29th Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology (1916). It seems that in Tewa, "Apache" equates to Sabe and "friend" to Kema.

==>Jim Jewell, who directed "The Lone Ranger" until 1938 said he'd lifted the term from the name of a boys' camp at Mullet Lake just south of Mackinac, Michigan called Kamp Kee-Mo Sah-Bee. The camp had been established in 1911 by Jewell's father-in-law, Charles Yeager, and operated until about 1940. Translation of kee-mo sah-bee, according to Jewell was "trusty scout."

==>A scholar from the University of California at Berkeley thought that Kemo Sabe came from the Yavapai, a dialect spoken in Arizona and meant "one who is white," since the Ranger always wore a white shirt and trousers in the earliest publicity photos. The Yavapai term is "kinmasaba" or "kinmasabeh"...

95 posted on 11/17/2006 6:06:13 PM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: maxwellp

See my post #85 - two current Thanksgiving food and recipe FR threads - and funny pix on the 2nd one, for the *gravy*.


96 posted on 11/17/2006 6:27:03 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Phantom Lord

Maybe you have it mixed up with the "Airing of Grievances" related to Festivus.


97 posted on 11/17/2006 8:14:21 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Whites screwed the indians? OK, I'm fine with that,


98 posted on 11/17/2006 10:32:41 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So, Professor Hansen will be at the office working on Thursday and Friday next week, right?


99 posted on 11/17/2006 11:30:52 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome Freepers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: eastsider

The first Thanksgiving in what is now the United States was in 1598 here in New Mexico.
http://www.nmgs.org/art1stThanks.htm


100 posted on 11/17/2006 11:37:33 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Rock The Casbah (said the little AC130 gunship))
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