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The Christmas war is coming
Vanity | 11/18 | Wil H

Posted on 11/18/2006 5:53:56 AM PST by Wil H

The Christmas shopping season is upon us and it seems that we have won the opening skirmish it the war with secularism to stamp out Christmas. Walmart have agreed to let Christmas back into their stores this year. That is great news but I am sure it is the power of the almighty dollar rather than the Almighty himself that drove them to that decision, but then, God does move in mysterious ways.

This year I am going shopping prepared and I invite you to join me in the campaign.

I am going to carry a number of letters, sealed in envelopes and addressed to the Store Manager. Any time I don't find any evidence of Christmas celebration in a store I will give the manager a letter and leave.

Here is what the letter says:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I came to your store today with the express purpose of spending a significant percentage of my $XXXX (put what you like in here) Christmas shopping budget.

However I note that your store chooses to no longer participate in the celebration of Christmas and therefore you don’t qualify to receive my Christmas dollars.

A quintessential part of Christmas is the sharing of the joy of giving and doing so in festive Christmas environment, it is estimated 95% of Americans celebrate the holiday and fortunately for them, and I, there are many other stores that embrace the Christmas spirit.

My Christmas spending, as I am certain many other’s, will be done with those that wish to share the spirit of holiday. Should you ever decide to participate again I will consider returning as a customer, until that time, ALL my business goes elsewhere.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXX

Merry Christmas

If a substantial number of people did this, maybe the message that Walmart got would reach the other retail outlets and perhaps we could get our Christmas back into the public square. If the stores all start decorating for Christmas again do you not think think they will pressure the municipality to decorate the streets appropriately?

This year, Prescott AZ has street banners on downtown lamp posts declaring "Prescott, Your Christmas City" I might just take a trip there to do my Christmas shopping.


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To: cajungirl

No, they should not be bullied into it. They have a right to do what they want. But, if their policy is to prohibit their employees from uttering the words "Merry Christmas", and if their policy is to not use the words "Merry Christmas" in their advertising, then I am not going to give them my business. This so called "holiday" IS Christmas, and if these stores chose to profit from the Christmas "holiday", then they ought to respect the 85+% of the nation who celebrates Christmas, and who spends the bulk of their money in their store. The stores can have whatever policy they chose to have, and I can chose to not do business with them--simple as that.


51 posted on 11/18/2006 6:49:51 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Cvengr

It is to me!! : - )


52 posted on 11/18/2006 6:51:13 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Wil H
The Christmas shopping season is upon us

I don't recognize "Christmas shopping season" as a sacred event, sorry.

Happy Thanksgiving, though.

53 posted on 11/18/2006 6:51:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: EGPWS

LOL!!!!!


54 posted on 11/18/2006 6:51:43 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: cajungirl

It is perfectly legit, for a person to boycott a store. It is not bullying, in a free society. Those are the tools we have. Boycotts have been used throughout history, as legitimate tools for social progress. It wasn't bullying when blacks boycotted the Montgomery Bus System, because they were forced to sit on the back of the bus. It isn't bullying whn Gays boycott corporations for not providing partner benefits. Boycotts are legit and available to all who have a grievance. In every case of boycott there are those not sympathetic with the cause. But you should refer to people, that peacefully excercize a right as bullies.


55 posted on 11/18/2006 6:52:14 AM PST by ronnieb
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To: Gabz
I like your "tag" Gabz!

Oh, and I'm not crazy....

56 posted on 11/18/2006 6:54:19 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Gabz
IOW, I won't be involved in all the rush and one upmanship that has become December.

Raucous round of applause! I plan to have all my catalog orders in by the end of November, and then that will be it for my purchases. (I can't stop my husband from shopping, but at least I won't be out there :-).

57 posted on 11/18/2006 6:54:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: cajungirl

Well you finally woke up did ya?????

Thats right, your opinion and then there is MY OPINION....

so what's the problem?????


Here, have another cup of java (_)> It will help ya.....


58 posted on 11/18/2006 6:59:03 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: dmw
The stores can have whatever policy they chose to have, and I can chose to not do business with them--simple as that.

Ahhh, a breath of fresh "individual thought"!

I like it!

59 posted on 11/18/2006 7:00:25 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: dmw

Your point is absolutely correct. When a store prohibits its employees from saying Merry Christmas. They have crossed a line. It would be equally wrong for them to require it, in my view. They should step aside and let it happen. Christmas celebration is not a forced or phony holiday. It is the holiday of my people. I will celebrate it.


60 posted on 11/18/2006 7:00:32 AM PST by ronnieb
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To: Tax-chick
(I can't stop my husband from shopping, but at least I won't be out there :-).

Be still my heart!

Your husband married a most desirable person!!!!

I'm turning green with envy....

61 posted on 11/18/2006 7:03:37 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Wil H

bump


62 posted on 11/18/2006 7:06:21 AM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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To: Tax-chick

Other than possibly some last minute baking needs, or needlework stuff, I am finished shopping. Literally, done, finished, fini, overwith. If the husband chooses to do so, that's his problem not mine.

In fact other than grocery shopping, the above 2 reasons are about the only reasons I will need set foot in a store for at least the next 3 months.


63 posted on 11/18/2006 7:08:33 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Wil H
>This year I am going shopping prepared and I invite you to join me in the campaign. I am going to carry a number of letters, sealed in envelopes and addressed to the Store Manager. Any time I don't find any evidence of Christmas celebration in a store I will give the manager a letter and leave.


64 posted on 11/18/2006 7:09:07 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Wil H

Nieman Marcus has obliterated the religious reference. They lit their "Holiday Tree" last night.


65 posted on 11/18/2006 7:10:42 AM PST by Churchjack
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To: HarleyLady27
Any time I see a newspaper in our area that has some opinion of why we SHOULDN'T say Merry Christmas, I send in another opinion as to why we should....

When I'm home for Christmas, I make a point of saying "Merry Christmas" to everyone - at the tollbooths, in stores, postmen, airline employees...anyone I come in contact with. So far, it doesn't appear that I have ever offended anyone with that. In fact, most of them respond warmly and some even with that defiant gleam in their eyes. ;-)

66 posted on 11/18/2006 7:10:47 AM PST by Allegra (Declaring Full Jihad on the Cut-and-Run Surrender Monkeys)
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To: kittymyrib
Yes, which store would Jesus rush off to in his SUV to buy that 62" 1080p HDTV, PlayStation3 and Surround Sound system? He could pick the lowest price and donate the rest to feed the poor, or he may not worry too much about the lowest price, but instead focus on the making sure the retail outlet's marketing strategy properly exploits his name with a hearty "Merry Christmas" sign and greeting from the salesclerk. Hmmmm.

Maybe he'd forgo the whole commercialization of the holiday altogether and show his love by spending time with family members and engaging in a wholesome family activity together. Picnic in the park, "adopt" a nursing home resident, volunteer at a homeless shelter's kitchen or something even more creative.
67 posted on 11/18/2006 7:12:49 AM PST by Diverdogz
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To: SuziQ
Complaining and whining that some retail outlet doesn't yell "Merry Christmas" at you with it's advertising isn't exactly spreading the message Christ brought.

Amen, sister!

68 posted on 11/18/2006 7:14:14 AM PST by ecurbh (Rudy in 2008)
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To: Allegra

Yes...thats what I'm saying....

Any store that have signs in them that say MERRY CHRISTMAS, and people on the streets that say Merry Christmas, its great....

And a Merry Christmas to you and your family ;)


69 posted on 11/18/2006 7:14:25 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: EGPWS

LOL!

We have a deal. He earns the income and pays the bills (with reminders ...), and I ask before I buy anything other than groceries and gas.

"I'd like to go to the Christian bookstore and buy these two items, using this coupon. (Indicate in ad flyer) It will cost about $40 plus tax. Is that okay with you?"

Answers range from, "Sure, and get that Sawyer Brown gospel CD, if they have it," to "Can it wait until next month?" or "I think we can do without that. Why don't you look for something at the library!"

Everyone's happy :-).


70 posted on 11/18/2006 7:17:41 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Tax-chick; EGPWS

Sounds like my house!!!!!


71 posted on 11/18/2006 7:21:21 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Wil H

Don't worry. As we learned from the brouhaha over Halloween, it's not how a holiday is observed now, it's the original intent of the holiday that's important.


72 posted on 11/18/2006 7:23:48 AM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Gabz

I used to pay the bills, while he went around shopping. That led to lots of stress when it was time to pay the electric bill after he'd run amok at the sporting goods store. Now I don't worry about it!


73 posted on 11/18/2006 7:24:37 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: kittymyrib; Wil H
I have been in a back and forth e-mail exchange with someone in Best-Buy's management this week over this subject.

I can tell they know that they are in an indefensible position. I also get the feeling they are starting to feel some heat on the issue. Christmas present dollars make great fuel.

The interesting thing is that I had been actually paying attention to their latest ad campaign and had been planning to make my electronics purchases at Best Buy. I guess Wal-Mart gets their share.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

74 posted on 11/18/2006 7:28:41 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Live and let live conservative

That is the part that is wrong.


75 posted on 11/18/2006 7:35:23 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: unixfox

I do not believe that for a minute. You can'y honestly think that the members of the ACLU hate Christmas and do not celebrate it?


76 posted on 11/18/2006 7:36:51 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Tax-chick
We have a deal. He earns the income and pays the bills (with reminders ...), and I ask before I buy anything other than groceries and gas.

My X and I had a deal too!

It always created heartfelt conversations.

i.e. EGPWS: Honey where's the AMEX card?

X: Which one my darling EG?

Oh, the one that had the gold color to it?

X: Oh THAT one!
I threw it away because when they ran it through that machine thingy they said it wasn't good anymore.

EG: okay, how about the platinum colored one?

X: Platinum?
EG: Yea, the silver colored one.

Oh, THAT one!
I gave that to a friend at work because it didn't work at the ATM machine and she said that her husband can fix things like this.

EG: okay how about the VISA card?

X: Oh, YOU can't have that for I need that in case of emergencies while I'm out.

77 posted on 11/18/2006 7:43:32 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Wil H

Good thread! I was moved to go to Target's website (as I did last year) and explain to them why (despite their self-serving PR articles about giving to the Salvation Army in a behind-the-scenes way, so as not to offend anybody) I will instead be spending my Christmas money at stores which display the Christmas spirit by allowing the Salvation Army kettle drive.


78 posted on 11/18/2006 7:45:02 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: EGPWS

I can see where that would be a problem!


79 posted on 11/18/2006 7:45:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Wil H

Not this again.


80 posted on 11/18/2006 7:48:20 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GO BUCKS)
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To: Lokibob
Last year, ours was the only outdoor Manger in the neighborhood. This year, I am adding a large motif of Santa kneeling before the baby Jesus. I'm also adding this cute guy:
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Now, if I could also find a unique sign made of lights wishing our military a Merry Christmas, I'd rest happily for this year. :)

81 posted on 11/18/2006 7:49:29 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: ronnieb

Lol! I don't think the Dixie Chicks would be in agreement.
Lol!


82 posted on 11/18/2006 7:53:17 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: dmw
Then don't give them your money! They are not robbing you of anything of significance; you still have Christ's Birthday, which I assume you must either celebrate at a religious service or a gathering in your home, or both. So do that, but don't be offended when a commercial establishment, which serves everyone, not just Christians, decides to cover its bases by acknowledging that there are at least two major religious holidays happenening in a specific time frame, and advertises with "Happy Holidays", to lure shoppers from BOTH groups who want to spend money in their stores.

If you want to reward one that says "Merry Christmas", do so, but don't scream and yell "boycott" and "insensitivity" at the ones who don't; just don't shop there. By making all this fuss, it DOES make the celebration of Jesus's Birth seem like nothing more than a commercial endeavor, which is, I assume, NOT what you want.

83 posted on 11/18/2006 7:54:09 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: HarleyLady27

Yeah, well, pick the hill you want to fight and die on, I guess. For me, shopping isn't the meaning of Christmas.


84 posted on 11/18/2006 7:54:31 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: stuartcr; unixfox
You can't honestly think that the members of the ACLU hate Christmas and do not celebrate it?

They would celebrate it compassionately if they weren't too busy trying to destroy it as a holiday icon.

Sometimes work just gets in the way. ; )

85 posted on 11/18/2006 7:55:44 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: SuziQ
By making all this fuss, it DOES make the celebration of Jesus's Birth seem like nothing more than a commercial endeavor,

I agree. "They're offending my religious beliefs by not using my religious beliefs as an advertising ploy two months before a religious holiday!" Huh?

May I wish you a very happy Independence Day? It's just around the corner!

86 posted on 11/18/2006 7:56:21 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: AD from SpringBay

No need to "punish" all the retailers. Christians should only frequent those establishments that are 'Christmas friendly' and avoid those that refuse to honor the name.

Idea....is there or devise a list of major retail outlets with pro/anti christmas themes and distribute via net and blogs. Also distribute to the retailers as well.
FOOLS..they reap profits off the very name they reject yet benefits them.


87 posted on 11/18/2006 7:57:23 AM PST by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: linda_22003
For me, shopping isn't the meaning of Christmas.

: - )

88 posted on 11/18/2006 7:58:46 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Tax-chick

I'm glad you're happy and that it works for you. I cannot imagine asking my husband if I'm allowed to buy something. :)


89 posted on 11/18/2006 7:58:49 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Cvengr
afa.net has a nice compilation of corporations which support Christmas and those which declare Christmas to be disrespectful.

You can also go there and sign the petition being sent to Wal-Mart concerning their $60,000 support for the homosexual agenda. I'm not a Wal-Mart hater, but this ticks me off. https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/signpetition.asp?id=1630

90 posted on 11/18/2006 7:59:34 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SuziQ

Peace on Earth, Good will too men...


91 posted on 11/18/2006 8:04:52 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: kittymyrib
If you watch the commercial, she clears the table to open the gift box.
They're letting the viewer jump to conclusions - it's funny.
Apart from that, I'm not shopping there either but don't expect much better from their competitors.
92 posted on 11/18/2006 8:05:01 AM PST by norton
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To: Tax-chick
May I wish you a very happy Independence Day? It's just around the corner!

*snort* And a Happy Valentines Day to you, too! ;o)

When I go out shopping, near Christmas, I always say "Merry Christmas" to the store clerks. Sometimes they smile and say "Merry Christmas" right back, because I, in a sense, have given them that opportunity, and they know I won't be put off by it. Sometimes, they just say "Thanks". Either way, I'm going to have a "Happy Christmas".

This year is gonna be a challenge because hubby is unemployed, by choice, we're in the process of remodeling our home to sell it and move, and we're trying to hold down purchases of anything that's not crucial. The kids are all older, and they'd understand if they didn't get any gifts, but I just can't do that; I like having something under the tree for them. I haven't even STARTED shopping yet, and will likely do most of mine online, as I did last year, so whether or not the commercial establishments advertise it as Christmas or Holiday shopping means nothing to me.

93 posted on 11/18/2006 8:05:43 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Howlin
Target will still not allow Salvation Army bell ringers but chose to make a large (tax deductible for them) donation.

PC way around the bad press of not allowing Salvation Army (which reminds people of God's Salvation coming to earth through the Son). It was the joy of having people donate (whether or not taxable to them NOT Target) that the Target folks felt was so "unseemly" during the "Holiday/Winter Festival Season."

94 posted on 11/18/2006 8:13:49 AM PST by zerosix
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To: linda_22003

Different systems work for different people. For me, it's good manners, because he's the wage-earner; and practical, because I don't want to buy something if there's no money in the bank to pay for it.


95 posted on 11/18/2006 8:15:56 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Tax-chick
I don't recognize "Christmas shopping season" as a sacred event, sorry.

I regard shopping at this time of year as penance. :) I am actively dreading having to go out this afternoon but I don't have a choice in the matter.

96 posted on 11/18/2006 8:17:17 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: kittymyrib

"particularly the slut who clears the table for sex when she sees her boyfriend at the door with a "happy holiday" Best Buy package"

Wow, is your mind in the gutter! She clears the table to open the package. Still, it is a stupid ad that actually makes me want to buy fewer gifts.


97 posted on 11/18/2006 8:20:51 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Alas Babylon!

Congress recognized the Christian holiday. They didn't make up a secular holiday and decide to also call it Christmas.


98 posted on 11/18/2006 8:26:08 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: linda_22003

This isn't the meaning of Christmas....where did you get such a stupid idea??????

This is saying something that goes back to our childhood, with Santa and the raindeers, and the mistletoe, and all the things of Christmas.....its just saying MERRY CHRISTMAS....

Why do you nay sayers have to be so sour....why can't you just see what this is for what it is...why put something totally different on it....

Be human for a change....I know better than all what the true meaning of Christmas is...I don't need you to ruin the spirit of christmas, and above all, you won't and you know why....you don't know the 'spirit of christmas' thats why your so sour.....


99 posted on 11/18/2006 8:27:25 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Wil H

This whole thing is absurd. We spend 6 weeks on black friday, christmas sales, church attendance huge.

Christians used to be thrown to the lions, crucified. Now people flip out if a retailer doesn't say Merry Christmas. This is a drummed up thing, I am sorry. Christianity is practiced by over 1 billion people, the church is economically vibrant, the US has a huge population who goes to church every Sunday.

Yet, Best Buy or Wal-Mart saying or not saying Merry Christmas, or instead saying Happy Holi(holy)days instead is something folks have their panties up in a twist about? Come on. We are just so easily offended these days. I am personally offended that we want to mix religion and commerce. Render unto Caesar that which is of Caesar.

The religiousity that we will get by mixing it with business is not something I want to partake of exactly. Wal-Mart's guide to the Passion portrayed by a bag of Sam's Choice Dog Food as Pilate. Maybe they can turn a microwave into the cave where Jesus was buried too. What is wrong with people?

I am prepared to be flamed.


100 posted on 11/18/2006 8:32:42 AM PST by dogbyte12
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