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Michigan Teen Creates Nuclear Fusion
United Press International ^ | November 19, 2006 | UPI

Posted on 11/19/2006 8:43:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard

ROCHESTER HILLS, Mich., Nov. 19 (UPI) -- An ambitious teenager in Rochester Hills, Mich., is ranked as the 18th amateur in the world to create nuclear fusion -- combining atoms to create energy.

The Detroit Free Press reported that 17-year-old Thiago Olson set up a machine in his parents' garage and has been working exhaustively for more than two years. His machine creates nuclear fusion on a small scale.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; fusion; fusor; michigan; nuclearfusion; philotfarnsworth
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1 posted on 11/19/2006 8:43:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Wish I could do that.


2 posted on 11/19/2006 8:44:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Does he have a website? ;)


3 posted on 11/19/2006 8:46:04 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

I'll bet he does...


4 posted on 11/19/2006 8:47:07 PM PST by GOPJ (The MSM's so busy kissing dem butt they can't see straight- come up for air guys.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Can I power my car with it? Just your typical teen.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 8:47:10 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Lancey Howard

Just wait until he blows up the neighborhood.


6 posted on 11/19/2006 8:47:14 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

The State Department claims that "the teen is not close to achieving nuclear fusion".


7 posted on 11/19/2006 8:50:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

He'll put his eye out with that thing.


8 posted on 11/19/2006 8:50:43 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: sageb1

I found this with pics too!
http://fusor.net/board/search.php


9 posted on 11/19/2006 8:50:50 PM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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To: Lancey Howard

Meanwhile all his classmates have meth labs cooking in their garages.


10 posted on 11/19/2006 8:51:16 PM PST by GnL
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To: GnL

They'll make money but their teeth will fall out ;)


11 posted on 11/19/2006 8:52:25 PM PST by Libertina (The battle is our responsiblity, the outcome is God's.)
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To: endthematrix

This is what it says when I click on that. Was that a joke? ;)

"You must specify a site"


12 posted on 11/19/2006 8:52:48 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Anyone can set up a deuterium boiler. The kid in this article is clearly no David Hahn.
13 posted on 11/19/2006 8:53:20 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Lancey Howard

Bull$hit.


14 posted on 11/19/2006 8:53:25 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: PoorMuttly

The teen traded the machine to his friend Ahmad for a Red Rider BB rifle.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 8:57:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sageb1

Sorry, try this:

http://fusor.net/board/view.php?site=fusor&bn=fusor_images&key=1150855195


16 posted on 11/19/2006 8:57:34 PM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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To: Wiggins
Can I power my car with it? Just your typical teen.

It only runs in a DeLorean.

17 posted on 11/19/2006 8:59:27 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: GnL
"Meanwhile all his classmates have meth labs cooking in their garages."

Some kids like physics and some like chemistry. As long as they are happy, that's what's important.
18 posted on 11/19/2006 9:02:41 PM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Lancey Howard

While I try to maintain an open mind about these kinds of things I don't understand how admitting deuterium into a vacuum and applying an electrical charge would overcome the mutual repulsion of the electron clouds surrounding the atoms much less the mutual repulsion of the protons in the nucleus once the electron cloud was overcome. Either some details are missing here or Hydrogen isn't really being converted into Helium as it is in the stars.


19 posted on 11/19/2006 9:03:02 PM PST by GravityFree (Check It Out !!! ConservativeMagnets.Com)
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To: Lancey Howard

Looks like nonsense to me, judging by the story. It takes a lot more attraction than you get from electric charges to get the NUCLEI to fuse.


20 posted on 11/19/2006 9:03:24 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Lancey Howard

Yeah, but can he get a date on Friday night?


21 posted on 11/19/2006 9:05:37 PM PST by Drango (Earth first, we'll strip-mine the other planets later!)
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To: GravityFree

I agree.


22 posted on 11/19/2006 9:05:45 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Lancey Howard

meanwhile 99.9% of teens his age care ,more about getting to the next level of WOW.


23 posted on 11/19/2006 9:11:43 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Lancey Howard

24 posted on 11/19/2006 9:12:46 PM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: Lancey Howard

See...???

See....?!!!

....OUCH!

Me only BUY from nice man with the beard and funny accent in Denny's parking lot. He has nice toys.

Kinda nervous, though.

Guess he should switch to the de-caf.


25 posted on 11/19/2006 9:13:35 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: Lancey Howard

See...???

See....?!!!

....OUCH!

Me only BUY from nice man with the beard and funny accent in Denny's parking lot. He has nice toys.

Kinda nervous, though.

Guess he should switch to the de-caf.


26 posted on 11/19/2006 9:13:53 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: PoorMuttly

Hey!

Ooooooooo. It's an Automatic.


Uh...gotta go now. Heh...heh...only joking. Heh..heh.

bye.


27 posted on 11/19/2006 9:18:45 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: SirKit

Fusion ping!!


28 posted on 11/19/2006 9:19:44 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Lancey Howard

Big deal, Howard Dean has been creating nuclear fusion out of his ass for many years...... ha ha


29 posted on 11/19/2006 9:21:19 PM PST by Enchante (America-haters and Terrorists Around the World Embrace Chamberlain Democrats)
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To: Lancey Howard

Reminds me of the campfire scene in 'Blazing Saddles'.


30 posted on 11/19/2006 9:21:24 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Lancey Howard

bump


31 posted on 11/19/2006 9:27:04 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Olson's machine consists of a vacuum that sucks air out, and then deuterium -- a form of hydrogen -- is injected into the vacuum. He then charges electricity into the vacuum, causing the atoms in the center to be attracted to one another, creating nuclear fusion.

Fusion at low pressure, are there any hydrinos present? (Just my way of saying bullsh|t.)

32 posted on 11/19/2006 9:28:15 PM PST by delacoert
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To: endthematrix

It doesn't look all that difficult to do. It involves the creation of an electrically induced plasma between an inner and outer wire ball electrode in a rarefied deuterium gas. The toughest thing seems to be to get and hold a hard enough vacuum for long enough in the system to purge it from other substances that will interfere with the deuterium plasma.

The fusion yield isn't anywhere close to the break even point, but it can emit some serious radiation.


33 posted on 11/19/2006 9:29:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Lancey Howard
I am really disappointed. All these comments and not one pic of Doc and Mr. Fusion.
34 posted on 11/19/2006 9:29:45 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: Lancey Howard

I did a double take when I saw this thread....
I thought it said...."Nuclear fission."


35 posted on 11/19/2006 9:30:29 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Don't Blame Me! I Voted for Republicans in 2006)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm pretty happy with my carb rebuild on my snow thrower! If this guy has a weather machine he can send some snow my way to test it...
36 posted on 11/19/2006 9:31:50 PM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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To: Lancey Howard

A bit of advice, son...

"Wear a cup"


37 posted on 11/19/2006 9:32:46 PM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Lancey Howard
The Radioactive Boy Scout (old fashioned fission)
38 posted on 11/19/2006 9:32:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Dawggie

39 posted on 11/19/2006 9:38:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Damn...I was just about to post:

IBMF

40 posted on 11/19/2006 9:42:24 PM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Lancey Howard
WHOOPS! Sorry folks, that one kinda got away from me...
41 posted on 11/19/2006 9:52:42 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Lancey Howard; rageaholic

Its not fusion, he's created a plasma sphere - the same kind of thing you can buy at any kitschy gift shop for about $75 or so. Real fusion implies getting more energy out that what you put in, and there's nothing here within the link that indicates this simple fact.


42 posted on 11/19/2006 10:03:23 PM PST by John Frum
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To: Lancey Howard

I can just hear his mom opening the door to the garage,

"Would you stop doing that before you blow up the whole state and didn't I tell you to take out the garbage!"


43 posted on 11/19/2006 10:05:35 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Lancey Howard

"You'll put your neighborhood out, kid..."


44 posted on 11/19/2006 10:10:34 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Lancey Howard

The real clue that something does not ring true in this story is there is no mention of radiation.

The reaction between two atoms of deuterium is:

D2 + D2 yields He3 + neutron + gamma

What this implies is that for an output as low as one watt, the young man would need a lot of shielding, or he would irradiate himself to death.


45 posted on 11/19/2006 10:14:35 PM PST by punster
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To: Lancey Howard
Wish I could do that.

It's not all that difficult. The basics were published in the science fact column of Analog, "The World's Simplest Fusion Reactor: And How to Make It Work" by Tom Ligon
Analog Science Fiction & Fact 118 (#12) Dec. 1998

Here is an example in action:

Philo Farnsworth: Fusor

46 posted on 11/19/2006 10:24:11 PM PST by El Gato
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To: punster; John Frum; delacoert; GravityFree; Ronaldus Magnus

Here's the original article with a little more information:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006611190639


47 posted on 11/19/2006 10:26:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: El Gato

Check out post #47. The original story has a link to that 'Fusor' site.


48 posted on 11/19/2006 10:28:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: John Frum
Real fusion implies getting more energy out that what you put in, and there's nothing here within the link that indicates this simple fact.

Not true. Real fusion means getting atomic nuclei to "fuse", and thereby transmute the original nuclei into a new type. In this case deuterium to helium. It says nothing about the energy balance.

However this style of fusor at least has the potential to generate more energy than it requires. However the devices, while cheap, wouldn't last long.

49 posted on 11/19/2006 10:32:25 PM PST by El Gato
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The articles are written like grade school science reports with trite and inarticulate observations:

All of this comic book science blather would be forgivable if there were some discussions of measurement of the products of fusion (alpha and gamma radiation), and some discussion of the efforts taken to shield the researcher.

I guess I'm hopelessly cynical - it would be admirable if the boy has really done this - I just don't believe it yet.

50 posted on 11/19/2006 10:54:16 PM PST by delacoert
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