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Royal: Britain must choose US or Europe
The Daily Mail ^ | 20th November 2006

Posted on 11/20/2006 6:57:32 AM PST by Mrs Ivan

Segolene Royal will try to force Britain to choose between being America's closest ally or being at the heart of Europe if she becomes French president, says a close aide.

Her foreign affairs adviser Gilles Savery, a French MEP, unveiled proposals for a new EU treaty, to replace the failed EU constitution rejected by French and Dutch voters.

He stressed that if Britain refuses to back the new drive towards a more powerful EU, France, Germany Spain and Italy could join forces to create a "quartet" to lead Europe.

He said: "Great Britain is absolutely indispensable to the European Union. It is a great nation, a global power.

" But the question the English have to answer is - do the English consider the English Channel to be wider than the Atlantic?

"We on the Continent have the right to deplore the fact that Great Britain appears to consider the Channel wider."

In comments that will alarm Gordon Brown, he also called for more protectionism aimed at safeguarding EU jobs in the face of globalisation. The Chancellor believes competitive businesses, rather than new trade barriers, are vital for a strong economy.

In an attack on Britain and America's military action in Iraq, Mr Savery also advocated moves towards a more common EU foreign policy.

"Europe can be relaunched with Germany, Italy and Spain. It is perfectly possible to have treaties within the treaty, among four nations," he said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph.

"If other nations want to sign up, that's good. But we cannot have a Europe where one part goes to war in Iraq, another part does not, and we all end up paying the bill.

"The question that needs to be asked is - do we want to be vassals of the United States, do we want to be a 51st state?"

Ms Royal kept largely quiet on her vision for Europe and views on foreign policy during her campaign to win the nomination to be the Socialist candidate.

She is likely to face centre-Right candidate Nicolas Sarkozy in the presidential elections next April. If she wins, Ms Royal and German Chancellor Angela Merkel could form a powerful new alliance at the heart of Europe.

Ms Royal opposes a twospeed Europe. Mr Savery accused Britain of leading an "ultra-Atlanticist" bloc within the EU.

On Ms Royal's economic policy, he added: "She believes, like all the French, that Europe should be more protective and should defend itself better."

Meanwhile, Treasury minister Ed Balls pledged that the Government will in future publish an annual statement of all EU funds spent in the UK.

Announcing the move, he branded the state of the EU budget "a disappointment and an embarrassment". Auditors have refused to give it a clean bill of health for the 12th year running.

Speaking to the Institute of Chartered Accountants in London today, Mr Balls, Mr Brown's right-hand man, will highlight widespread beliefs that EU funds are wasted or open to fraud.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; france; uk
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To: Mrs Ivan
"France, Germany, Spain and Italy could join forces to create a 'quartet' to lead Europe."

France??? Spain??? They'll cease to exist before the quartet can tune its instruments. As for Germany and Italy--Europe has tried that duet before. If Royal wants to offer something useful, she'll urge Europe to face the music, but it looks like all she's got is the same old song and dance routine that's led Europe to the brink of its grand finale.

51 posted on 11/20/2006 9:01:48 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: MadIvan

I hope you are right. The MSM makes it look like all of england is now islamic mainstream radicals.

(I thought Basil Fawlty was British?)


52 posted on 11/20/2006 9:13:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gene Eric
Iworked in England for about a year, and while they fought the Germans twice in the last century, their real enemy is France. Good luck to madamoiselle Royal in her quest for demanding Britail choose between the US and the rest of Europe.
53 posted on 11/20/2006 9:14:29 AM PST by JRjr (hMMM?)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Segolene Royal will try to force Britain to choose...

Snort. Royal and whose army?

54 posted on 11/20/2006 9:17:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Maybe I'm reading more into than I should, but doesn't it also look like they're trying to force a rift between Britain and the Commonwealth? Wouldn't a trade barrier between the EU and everything else put places like Canada and India on the outside?
55 posted on 11/20/2006 9:19:48 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mrs Ivan

So France wants to tell Britain what it must do? Haven't they tried this for the last 1000 years with similar results every time?


56 posted on 11/20/2006 9:27:12 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mrs Ivan
Royal: Britain must choose US or Europe

I thought this thread was about Prince Chucky.

57 posted on 11/20/2006 9:29:05 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 140-144)
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To: Alouette

Apparently Royal was named by Michael Jackson.


58 posted on 11/20/2006 10:07:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Since when do you believe what the MSM says? If you believe what they tell you, you are on the wrong site.

Regards, Ivan

59 posted on 11/20/2006 10:18:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Alouette

You were mistaken!


60 posted on 11/20/2006 1:04:01 PM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
But we cannot have a Europe where one part goes to war in Iraq, another part does not, and we all end up paying the bill.

Well, this much is true. That sort of thing wasn't allowed in our Union either.

61 posted on 11/20/2006 2:55:02 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Nor does it appear in doubt as to which side the English people would chose if asked. One side tried repeatedly to conquer it and the other assisted Great Britain in the repulsion of that would-be conquest.

It took me a moment to figure out which wars you were talking about. I thought you were referring to the Revolution and the War of 1812 and the Civil War where England was our enemy and France our ally.

62 posted on 11/20/2006 2:58:01 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

England was not our enemy during the Civil War.

It's workers prevented that from happening even though they paid a heavy financial cost because in unemployment due to the Union blockade which cut the Cotton supply to the mills.

Nor was France our ally during the Civil War. It took advantage of our troubles by attempting to install a French puppet, Maximillian, as Emperor. Juarez put an end to those plans and drove them out including the French Foreign Legion backing them.


63 posted on 11/20/2006 8:27:20 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: MadIvan
Do you really think we like the French or Germans all that much? One country, we've been at war with since forever, the other is an object of ridicule for John Cleese as Basil Fawlty.

I thought Angela Merkel, being from the old East Germany, was a little more of a Bushbot than this?

Ms Royal needs to surrender NOW. And change her name. In whatever order she wants.

Madivan, we will always choose Basil Fawlty over any Jerry Lewis character.


I told you not to mention the war...

64 posted on 11/20/2006 10:18:35 PM PST by Watery Tart (I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.)
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