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BU group offers white scholarship (Boston University's College Republicans)
The Daily Free Press (Boston University) ^ | November 21, 2006 | Clarissa Bottesini

Posted on 11/21/2006 6:24:05 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough

Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

"Did we do this to give a scholarship to white kids? Of course not," the scholarship reads. "Did we do it to trigger a discussion on what we believe to be the morally wrong practice of basing decisions in our schools and our jobs on racial preferences rather than merit? Absolutely."

The scholarship, which is privately funded by the BUCR without the support of the university, is meant to raise awareness, group members say. BUCR member argue that racial preferences are a form of "bigotry." The group has a similar view on affirmative action.

The application for the $250 scholarship, due Nov. 30, requires applicants be full-time BU undergraduate students and one-fourth Caucasian and maintain at least a 3.2 cumulative GPA. Applicants must submit two essays, one describing the applicant's ancestry and one describing "what it means to you to be a Caucasian-American today."

BUCR President Joe Mroszczyk said he spoke to Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore before publicly releasing the scholarship to make sure it would be legal. Mroszczyk said BUCR members also talked to others beforehand, some of whom were initially "agitated or upset" but understood the point after members explained themselves, he said.

"If you give out a white scholarship, it's racist, and if you give out a Hispanic scholarship, it is OK," the College of Arts and Sciences senior said. "It is the main point. We are not doing this scholarship as a white-supremacy scholarship."

La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said although she agrees with BUCR's claim that racial preference is "contradictory to our American ideals of freedom and equality," she feels American history justifies today's affirmative action." Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects," the School of Management senior said in an email. "The goal of a university in striving to admit more students of color is a positive movement to increase the diversity of its institution."

Pons said the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

"While I can see the controversy over scholarships toward specific ethnic groups, we need to keep in mind its intention," she said. "The [group-specific] scholarship is there to increase the interest of students in that group to continue their education and reach the equality that we all strive for."

After the recipient is chosen, BUCR plans to host an event to honor the winner and speak about the award, as well as hold a forum discussion about racial preference, Mroszczyk said.

Mroszczyk said the BUCR borrowed the scholarship idea from the College Republicans at Roger Williams University in Bristol, R.I., which sponsored a similar award in 2003. Former RWU College Republicans President Jason Mattera said the "whites-only" scholarship was meant to be a parody, but it brought harsh media attention to their campus.

Mattera, now the Young American's Foundation National Spokesman, a group supporting the conservative movement, said the idea was spurred when RWU administrators "compiled a list of scholarships for people of color only." Although Mattera, a Puerto Rican, would have been eligible for some of these scholarships, he said he still wanted to "expose the inequities."

RWU College Republicans adviser June Speakman said the organization started receiving complaints as soon as it released the scholarship. Despite protests, 15 students applied for the scholarship.

"It was a way to make their protests highly visible, provocative," she said. "They stuck to their guns. They were steadfast."

Speakman said the scholarship was discontinued after its first year when the national and state Republican parties severed ties with RWU College Republicans.

Mattera said people were aware the scholarship had "nothing to do with racism," but the Republican National Committee still did not want to be affiliated with the scholarship.

"The RNC under [former chair] Ed Gillespie disagreed with me," Mattera said. "For Ed Gillespie to be dismissive or to imply that there was racism, he lacked any type of -- to put it bluntly -- balls in standing up against racial preferences. It would have been a great opportunity."

Regarding BU's adaptation of this scholarship, Mattera said he is glad the BUCR is interested in continuing to promote awareness.

"I guarantee that once this happens, be ready for hypocritical charges of racism, and be ready to be attacked," Mattera said, "but once they attack you, the hypocrisy is exposed."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: discrimination; education; racecard

1 posted on 11/21/2006 6:24:09 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I say, maybe it is about time. Why are white people evil? and non deserving?


2 posted on 11/21/2006 6:25:27 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects," the School of Management senior said in an email.

Where is mine? My grandparents were Slovakian immigrants that came with nothing in the 1930s. They worked 15 hour days as a maid and a cook to put one child through college. So far, I have not seen any "preferred" status coming my family's way...

3 posted on 11/21/2006 6:29:32 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: television is just wrong

Me too. And about "b*lls," since my generation doesn't have any, it's nice to see that the next generation does.


4 posted on 11/21/2006 6:30:25 AM PST by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"While I can see the controversy over scholarships toward specific ethnic groups, we need to keep in mind its intention," she said. "The [group-specific] scholarship is there to increase the interest of students in that group to continue their education and reach the equality that we all strive for."

Apparently she's trying to imply that "people of color" are more worthy of these goals than whitey?

5 posted on 11/21/2006 6:33:46 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Mixed emotions about this one ... I applaud them for the gesture and throwing some gasoline on the preferences fire but I don't have an objection to groups granting private scholarships based on group identity. For example, I think the UNCF is a good organization even if their commercials give the impression that Samuel L. Jackson is their only recipient (come on, guys, surely you can cut a different commercial!!!). Why shouldn't the SAR or DAR be able to offer a scholarship based on lineage? Or a private school use a race-based scholarship to attract otherwise qualified minorities to their campus? That's the key: otherwise qualified. Still, a public institution needs to tread carefully when they start targeting subsets of the population. Perhaps it is best left up to the alumni and unaffiliated groups like the UNCF when it is not a private institution.
6 posted on 11/21/2006 6:35:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Hey, how about Freepers chipping in $5 to this scholarship? Give me an address and my check is on the way.
7 posted on 11/21/2006 6:55:28 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: LurkedLongEnough
La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said although she agrees with BUCR's claim that racial preference is "contradictory to our American ideals of freedom and equality," she feels American history justifies today's affirmative action."

Much evil has been perpetrated by people saying, "I know its wrong, but..."

8 posted on 11/21/2006 7:02:27 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Who? Me?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"For Ed Gillespie to be dismissive or to imply that there was racism, he lacked any type of -- to put it bluntly -- balls in standing up against racial preferences...

A college kid who has actually been educated about the real world...

9 posted on 11/21/2006 7:03:51 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Who? Me?)
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To: television is just wrong
I love it !!! It's about time, I wonder if someone there is doing the "Rush" ie illustrating the absurd with absurdity ??? What's next....White Student Union?
10 posted on 11/21/2006 7:04:37 AM PST by Jeffrey_D. (Seek first to understand, then to be understood)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"If you give out a white scholarship, it's racist, and if you give out a Hispanic scholarship, it is OK,"

I thought Hispanics were white.

11 posted on 11/21/2006 7:06:35 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: television is just wrong; jiggyboy; taxcontrol; NonValueAdded; Jeffrey_D.; Onelifetogive

Bad idea.


We are looking at it from a race standpoint. Whereas many blacks identify with being black as an ethnicity.


12 posted on 11/21/2006 7:08:02 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: VeniVidiVici
I thought Hispanics were white.

Hispanics are an ethnic group, not a race.

The official line is that they can be of any race.

13 posted on 11/21/2006 7:12:07 AM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

As a white male living in Austin, TX... I AM a minority.

Affirmative Rascism needs to go away. This PO'ed cracker has had about all he can stand of this crap.

14 posted on 11/21/2006 7:14:07 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Isn't Caucasian an ethnicity too? That's what it says on all the forms.

Actually, the trend is towards full-employment for genealogists since the success of the melting pot is blurring racial and ethnic lines. Consider Akaka's Hawaiian parallel government initiative where you'd have to find (and presumably document) a single Hawaiian great-grandparent. As far as African-American ancestry, will we be forced to add back words like octoroon to the US Code? It is going to come down to that. Who will qualify for a "black" scholarship? Perhaps this is what SCOTUS had in mind when setting a date for the expiry of preferences. That and the statistical likelihood that Whites would then qualify as a bona fide minority.

15 posted on 11/21/2006 7:19:26 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Our country oppressed people of color for centuries while everyone else who was 'preferred' continued to succeed and lead our country in all aspects,"

And there you have it... the left's self loathing voiced through this confused young person. We can never do enough, we will never be even. We must always punish white people in the name of making up for centuries of oppression. First off, even in oppressive times, the best of people of color managed to prosper. That's not to say there wasn't oppression, and that what oppression that occurred wasn't damaging. What it does say is that people need to motivate themselves, and put their best forward. A society simply can't engineer motivation and success of a group. Need evidience? How exactly is the African American community doing these days? 150 years removed from slavery, and multiple generations into being a preferred class, and they still have major problems with avoiding "being white", (avoiding success). It's time to do as Dr. King dreamed... judge the content of one's character. Look at one's body of work, and hire/award based solely on the individual. Those that fail, that is their problem. That is how life goes. But, that's way too logical for the liberal touchy-feely mind to comprehend.
16 posted on 11/21/2006 7:20:22 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: television is just wrong
La Fuerza Co-Chair Sara-Marie Pons, who is also on the Admissions Student Diversity Board, said... the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

Follow the money. What do you think an Admissions Student Diversity Board member is going to say? Eliminate my useless job? Discrimination of any kind is wrong and in fact, eliminate the useless Admissions Diversity Board?

Jim Crow laws for white people.

17 posted on 11/21/2006 7:22:46 AM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Good for them. It certainly raises the debate. It also serves to flush out those who see reparations for wrongs committed to individuals in past generations as in any ways justified. Historical facts will quickly prove that those oppressed last year, were frequently the oppressors of others the year before. Reparations in any form that go beyond those directly impacted is a terrible and pernicious idea - one that will sow the seeds of significant ethnic and racial discord.


18 posted on 11/21/2006 7:28:33 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: television is just wrong
BU gives free tuition to convicted murderers serving time.

Unless they changed their policy.

I'm glad to see somebody at BU offering scholarships to white people so they don't have to commit murder.

19 posted on 11/21/2006 7:31:35 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Looking to draw attention to what they call the "worst form of bigotry confronting America today," Boston University's College Republicans are circulating an application for a "Caucasian Achievement and Recognition Scholarship" that requires applicants be at least 25 percent Caucasian.

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Yeah, this will attract Black Americans to the party.

This is so mind-bogglingly stupid that I am tempted to think that dims-in-wolf's clothing run BU Young Republicans.

20 posted on 11/21/2006 7:35:20 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"The goal of a university in striving to admit more students of color is racism a positive movement to increase the diversity of its institution."
21 posted on 11/21/2006 7:36:08 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Good idea, but it will be shot down by the PC crowd which sees no need to be consistent and logical.


22 posted on 11/21/2006 7:50:15 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Good on 'em! I forget - who was it that set up the Society for Creative Bestiality at (Dartmouth?) and applied for funding?


23 posted on 11/21/2006 8:15:41 AM PST by redbaiter
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To: taxcontrol

Boston University College Republicans
c/o Dean of Students Kenneth Elmore
Boston University
881 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, MA 02215


24 posted on 11/21/2006 8:19:07 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: LauraleeBraswell
We are looking at it from a race standpoint. Whereas many blacks identify with being black as an ethnicity.

Good point. The scholarship should only be offered to people who "think" white, not to people who are white...

</sarcasm>

25 posted on 11/21/2006 10:10:52 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Who? Me?)
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To: taxcontrol

Lemme dig around. I'll get back to you on that one.


26 posted on 11/21/2006 10:16:42 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: freespirited
I thought Hispanics were white.

Only when it is to their advantage.

By the way, I'm kind of off-white. Does that make me a person of color? The only way this scholarship could have been better is if it were restricted to caucasian males. Now that would have exposed some hypocricy.

27 posted on 11/21/2006 10:22:34 AM PST by seowulf
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Kudos to this bunch from my Alma Mater!


28 posted on 11/21/2006 11:52:21 AM PST by Uncledave
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To: VeniVidiVici

Actually, "hispanic" isn't a race. That's the dumbest thing about that clasification. Hispanics are various races like white, black, and brown. But most people don't realize that.


29 posted on 11/21/2006 11:56:04 AM PST by paltz
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To: wtc911

Do you have a better idea for addressing this issue or even for attracting more minorities to the Republican Party?


30 posted on 11/21/2006 2:23:25 PM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

smpons@bu.edu

Sara Marie-Pons' email, if anyone cares.


31 posted on 11/21/2006 2:27:30 PM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: bjc
Do you have a better idea for addressing this issue or even for attracting more minorities to the Republican Party?

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1) I don't care about the issue of how "private" universities spend their monies, it is not my business as long as tax dollars are not being used.

2) Attract Black voters through honest and continued explanation of Conservative values along with a continued expose of how liberal policies hold Black America back is the road to take.

This call for a Whites only scholarship program coming from an organization with Republican in its title plays perfectly into the hands of all the left-wing loud-mouths who want Black America to see us as racist. That is remarkably stupid.

If you disagree then tell me why.

32 posted on 11/21/2006 2:40:46 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911
It is not stupid. It is about time that something like this was done. Why is it ok for Blacks, Latinos or whatever they are known as, etc to have scholarships but it is not ok for whites only. Twenty percent is not that much. Why is it ok to have Miss Black America but not Miss White America and all the others that say it is for Blacks only?
33 posted on 11/21/2006 2:48:59 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: MamaB
Missed the point entirely, didn't you. This misguided effort is directed at a private institution that is allowed to spend its scholarship money anyway it wants to (that's the American way you see).

For a group that calls itself Republican to lobby for any Whites only entitlements plays right into Hillary's, Schumer's, Kerry's, Jackson's, Sharpton's game plan. Why not just put up a sign on the RNC banner "Whites only".

This sophomoric grand-standing stunt is nothing but a 'look at me' exercise that will not effect any change or accomplish anything positive. It will push Black America further away...that might make you feel good but it is plain stupid.

34 posted on 11/21/2006 3:27:06 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Finally!


35 posted on 11/21/2006 3:29:05 PM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: wtc911
wtc911:

Respectfully, I disagree with you. I concede your point on the private intuition although BU is just as pregnant with government grant and loan money as the next university and they do occupy prime Boston Real Estate and are considered a taxfree institution who charge (I guessing) $30K for yearly tuition. This program highlights how ridiculous it is to award scholarships based on race. It reflects back on the Hi**arys, Kerrys and Obamas just how extreme are their positions. Also, rather than worry about the republicans "whites only" tag, I'd like someone in the press ask the Democrats why they continually lose a majority of the white male vote. I think actions like this (white only scholarship) bring these issues to discussion points, and race based scholarships lose when that happens.
36 posted on 11/21/2006 9:13:10 PM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: jackieaxe
Thank you for the reasoned response. Allow me to expand on my line of thought and why I believe that this effort is either very stupid or being pushed by the equivelant of fifth columnists.

For the first time in modern history there are cracks starting to appear in the dems hold on the Black vote. Their policies are not working as they did for various reasons. Among these are the dems embrace of low-wage illegal workers who will replace the low-wage Black worker and the growth of a Black middle class that is starting to become more conservative or at least less liberal.

The dems know that they can't hold on without changing and they don't know how to change, so what can they do? They can play to the long-held fear among Black America that the GOP is racist (remember Dean said that the only Blacks at a gathering of the GOP were the waiters).

Now, there are two ways to see the college Republican effort to set-up a 'Whites-only' program...

1)It is a legitimate effort by legitimate GOPers. The idea may be emotionally satisfying to some but it must be judged by the ultimate results. Those results will not be to obtain more funds for White students or to reduce the funds earmarked for Black students. The result will be a public discourse wherein the GOP will be painted as the party for Whites not for Blacks (rightfully so given the context).

The left are not fools. They will not stand at the plate and let this home-run pitch go by without swinging for the seats. And they will hit it out of the park. The net result will be a Black recoil from the GOP back to the loving arms of Jesse Jackson and Hillary ("You know what I'm talking about") Clinton. In other words, a PR disaster for the GOP and an easy win for the devil.

No real gain, plenty of down-side...that to me is stupidity on parade.

2) The effort is being pushed by dems posing as GOPers. This is not difficult to imagine, especially given the fact that the Dean of Students, who must authorize the activity, is a Black man who spent years in Boston as a Labor Relations attorney (you can't get more liberal than that). I have no problem believing that this whole effort is a scam for political gain. If this is the case then they have already profited from the deception in the world of Public Relations.

37 posted on 11/22/2006 4:45:15 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911

The explanation of conservative values and free market principles has not stemmed the tide of ethnic earmarks and affirmative action set asides. You are trying to make an omlette without breaking the eggs. Do you also oppose lawsuits to ban the use of race in college selection decisions?

The whole issue of fairness and the removal of race-based decisions has to be addressed head on, because the left is far too entrenched to allow a genuine dialogue on the issues. Raising will undoubtedly aggravate some, especially the beneficiaries.

I agree with you that this scholarship issue has some of the hallmarks of a cheap stunt, but as far as I can see without these occasional act of political theater there will be no discussion of the issues. I do think what would make this more effective is if the BUYR could ensure that there numbers include individuals from every type of background and that any "dialogue" provoking actions reflect a consensus of alll the members of the BUYR.


38 posted on 11/22/2006 5:25:49 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: bjc
"I agree with you that this scholarship issue has some of the hallmarks of a cheap stunt, but as far as I can see without these occasional act of political theater there will be no discussion of the issues."

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The point is that this stunt will accomplish no good, the issue is less than trivial at best and the damage to GOP-Black America relations is significant. In other words, this is stupid.

39 posted on 11/22/2006 6:41:46 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Excellent - I'm glad these college Republicans are ready to do something besides talk.


40 posted on 11/22/2006 6:44:14 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: wtc911
In your response you pointed out some points I overlooked: 1. The "discussion" of raced based scholarship would not be conducted on a level playing field given that the Main Stream Media slants democrat/liberal, and 2. Because this is the College Republicans bringing this up it would not help the overall party. I still feel a good open and honest discussion about race based scholarship would do us all some good. But I understand how going forward it could backfire on the Republicans.
41 posted on 11/22/2006 8:34:10 AM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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To: television is just wrong

Didn't you know? All white people are wealthy and come from priviledged backgrounds. They don't have to work for things in life, everything is handed to them, and life is a piece of cake for them. Gosh, I thought EVERYONE knew that!
susie


42 posted on 11/23/2006 10:40:15 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: jiggyboy

It actually sounds more like she's implying that *people of color* wouldn't strive for education if someone wasn't handing them free money. That sounds pretty racist to me, but I doubt she will be called on it.
susie


43 posted on 11/23/2006 10:42:12 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

uh, I didn't. My father spent my entire childhood laid off, laid off, and yet again laid off. He did however manage to make 9 children he could not afford and expected his sister and his brother to pay for our upbringing.

When they fell through, as a teenager, 13, I babysat and my mother stole my money I earned claiming I owed it to her. My grandmother brought groceries in , and periodically brought us big pots of cooked spaghetti and chicken for dinner. I continue to grateful to her for her love and attention.

I was forced to move out of my parents house and not contact them for a very long time cause all they wanted me for was to take the few bucks I got cleaning houses, babysitting and working on the college campus to pay my way through college. I got NO financial aid because they wanted my parents financial information and since I left and didn't want to contact them, I was on my own.

Working two jobs carrying 12 units a semester, I worked my way through community college, and the 4 year university. They did nothing to help me. The state did nothing to help me. I had to earn everything myself.


44 posted on 11/23/2006 8:17:38 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: television is just wrong

Of course I was kidding. I was the first one in my family to get a college degree, my husband put me and himself thru (altho I did get a small merit based scholarship that covered some of my tuition) and then we both put 3 sons thru college as well.
If we ever really want to be a color blind society.... well, never mind, because there are alot of people who don't really WANT that to happen.
BTW congratulations on getting thru college the hard way. I admire what you did, and I suspect you got alot more out of it than alot of kids who get it handed to them do.
susie


45 posted on 11/23/2006 9:14:58 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Pons said the university's diversity creates a "better learning environment" and "dynamic discussion." She said she believes minority-specific scholarships serve an important function.

As so often to be found in the world of politically correct liberalism today the very remedy offered disallows the achievement of stated goals. How can one have a "dynamic discussion" when to do so could so easily trigger the "hostile environment" offense (yes, offense) enshrined in campus speech codes. The BC Republicans are actually the ones creating the opportunity for a "dynamic discussion" but will be sacrificed on the altar of not offending anyone.

And it goes without saying that the idea of diversity is quickly forgotten when it comes to conservative (or Christian) opinion.

In Orwellian terms: All 'dynamic discussion" is equal but some "dynamic discussion" is more equal than others.

46 posted on 11/23/2006 9:33:07 PM PST by torchthemummy (Romney 2008 - Let The Religious Bigots Unite)
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