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The 751 No-Go Zones of France
Jihadwatch.org ^ | 11/24/06 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 11/25/2006 4:35:13 PM PST by voletti

They go by the euphemistic term Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, with the even more antiseptic acronym ZUS, and there are 751 of them as of last count. They are conveniently listed on one long webpage, complete with street demarcations and map delineations.

What are they? Those places in France that the French state does not control. They range from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassone to twelve in the heavily Muslim town of Marseilles, with hardly a town in France lacking in its ZUS. The ZUS came into existence in late 1996 and according to a 2004 estimate, nearly 5 million people live in them.

Comment: A more precise name for these zones would be Dar al-Islam, the place where Muslims rule. (November 14, 2006)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dhimmiwatch; france; nogozones
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1 posted on 11/25/2006 4:35:17 PM PST by voletti
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To: voletti; rmlew

I think the no-go zones will decrease in number.


2 posted on 11/25/2006 4:37:46 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: voletti; rmlew

I think the no-go zones will decrease in number.


3 posted on 11/25/2006 4:37:46 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: voletti; MadIvan; All

HEY Ivan post to your Euro ping list


4 posted on 11/25/2006 4:37:46 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: voletti
Malignant cancers start with a few rogue cells and then metastasize with frightening rapidity.

France appears to be terminal...

5 posted on 11/25/2006 4:37:52 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Paleo Conservative
"I think the no-go zones will decrease in number."

Do you foresee the French government growing a spine in the near future?
6 posted on 11/25/2006 4:38:28 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: voletti

7 posted on 11/25/2006 4:39:17 PM PST by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: voletti
Image hosted by Photobucket.com you'll ALWAYS get what you put up with... usually in spades.
8 posted on 11/25/2006 4:40:07 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

I suspect he means thatthe whole of 'Fwance' may soon become a no-go area for the free world.


9 posted on 11/25/2006 4:40:35 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You mean as they merge into each other?


10 posted on 11/25/2006 4:40:51 PM PST by RichInOC ("With all that's going on in the world, isn't it time we got back to hating the French?")
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

No! The "no go" areas will enlarge to the point where they are contiguous. As that happens areas that were separate become one larger "no go" area.


11 posted on 11/25/2006 4:41:44 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: RichInOC

Yes, eventually there will only be one in France.


12 posted on 11/25/2006 4:42:03 PM PST by mhx
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To: voletti

By the way, I'm surprised they didn't go for Zones Urbaines Terribles, or ZUT for short.


13 posted on 11/25/2006 4:42:22 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: voletti

I am thinking that if the french want to profit on this they should invest in Burka futures.

So much for Vive la France.


14 posted on 11/25/2006 4:42:24 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think the no-go zones will decrease in number.

I do too I think they will simply merge into districts and then into france as a whole.

It is a mistake (understatement) for the french to seed soverignty.

15 posted on 11/25/2006 4:43:10 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and Apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think the no-go zones will decrease in number.

Probably so. As they expand, they will conjoin and the total number will drop.

16 posted on 11/25/2006 4:43:41 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: RichInOC
By the way, I'm surprised they didn't go for Zones Urbaines Terribles, or ZUT for short.

Zoot Allures....indeed.
Zappa would be proud.

17 posted on 11/25/2006 4:49:30 PM PST by The Drowning Witch (Non omnes qui habemt citharam sunt citharoedi)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"No! The "no go" areas will enlarge to the point where they are contiguous."

AH, I see where you're coming from.

Very likely. France will fall within the next 20 years. If not sooner. I hope plans are being made to rescue some of the treasures of our civilization from those who would destroy it....


18 posted on 11/25/2006 4:49:47 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: voletti
Oops. I found that I have been to several. A few years ago, before I knew better, I took my then 15-year-old daughter with me to visit the cathedral at St. Denis, in the very northern part of Paris. It's on the list. It was a bit unnerving as the character of the people on the Metro gradually changed and we came out near the cathedral. Cool place to see (first gothic cathedral and the abbey where the kings of France are buried). However, had I known then what I know now, the visit would not have happened.

My Frence friends also warned me against taking the Metro through the Montmartre area after midnight. I caught a Muslim kid (about 10 years old, or so) with his hand in my pocket one night as we were entering the Metro outside the Moulon Rouge. There's some really rough areas in that northern part of Paris, believe me.

19 posted on 11/25/2006 4:50:42 PM PST by Timmy
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To: voletti
They range from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassone.

I've been there, awesome place and nary a Muslim. Nice people too.

20 posted on 11/25/2006 4:58:13 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight; Paleo Conservative
"I think the no-go zones will decrease in number."

Do you foresee the French government growing a spine in the near future?

I also see the no-go zones decreasing in number...to one. All of France.

21 posted on 11/25/2006 5:00:08 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yes, the number will decrease to 1 - the entire country.


22 posted on 11/25/2006 5:01:02 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: Royal Wulff

Hicks: "I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure."



23 posted on 11/25/2006 5:07:55 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You mean, as the smaller zones merge into bigger ones?


24 posted on 11/25/2006 5:18:19 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: voletti

France is lost...the UK is on the way....Europe is a write off. I don't want European boat people over here...


25 posted on 11/25/2006 5:23:44 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: voletti

do like canada, let the french have quebec

over there? let the "palestinians" have their own country! Let them have their own country within france!

In the meanwhile,
i think
I'll go and squat... maybe in haifa


26 posted on 11/25/2006 5:28:50 PM PST by himno hero
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To: voletti
They'll let the muslims take over their country, but, they have the authority to shoot down Israeli planes fighting the muslims. Those wacky french.
27 posted on 11/25/2006 5:37:19 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: Paleo Conservative

"I think the no-go zones will decrease in number."

I agree-in another twenty years, there will only be ONE ZUS. It will encompass the entirety of France.


28 posted on 11/25/2006 5:42:42 PM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: Allegra
C'est MAL les capitulards fromage!

Mon Dieu!

29 posted on 11/25/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: Dallas59

If we had a draft the Muzzies would have to serve, like it or not.


30 posted on 11/25/2006 5:46:35 PM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: voletti

Well, the map might be useful if the French manage to find a new Napoleon, or the Germans a new Bismark: the ZUS's are obvious locations for airstrikes during the first hour of the campaign to re-Europeanize France.


31 posted on 11/25/2006 5:49:50 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: x_plus_one

Another reason to not have a draft: we'd lose too many good officers to fragging if a draft swept insufficiently secularized Muslims into our military.


32 posted on 11/25/2006 5:51:41 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: processing please hold

obviously they support the muslims in any form,,,, anywheres


33 posted on 11/25/2006 5:59:03 PM PST by himno hero
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To: voletti
If your planing to travel France, do they hand out a ZUS map with the Michelin map?
34 posted on 11/25/2006 5:59:55 PM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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To: voletti
Remind me! Weren't we supposed to get our traditional ally France to approve our war with Iraq per John Kerry?

Good example of why you shouldn't allow cultural enclaves in your country that don't share your language or cultural values.

35 posted on 11/25/2006 6:02:39 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

>treasures of our civilization

Is France nuclear?


36 posted on 11/25/2006 6:05:05 PM PST by ROTB (Our Constitution ... only for a moral and religious people... -- John Q. Adams, October 11, 1798)
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To: ROTB

Yes the French have a nuclear arsenal & yes the French have been worried about the loyalty of muslims in the armed forces especially around nukes ie guarding them at missile sites & special weapons depots.


37 posted on 11/25/2006 6:17:27 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Paleo Conservative
No! The "no go" areas will enlarge to the point where they are contiguous. As that happens areas that were separate become one larger "no go" area.

... Until France becomes the third Islamic nuclear power (after Iran).

38 posted on 11/25/2006 6:23:09 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: voletti

I Tennessee they have "Kudzu".


39 posted on 11/25/2006 6:25:00 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Diogenesis; rageaholic

My sentiments, EXACTLY.


40 posted on 11/25/2006 6:25:41 PM PST by John Frum
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To: voletti
If they were to name them ZOTs (Zones Of Tolerance, Zones of Treason, etc) then we could send in the Viking Kitties, who always do a splendid job.  But then we would just be back to it being France as it was, which would be no real benefit to the USA that I see....
41 posted on 11/25/2006 6:26:54 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: HardStarboard

If your planing to travel France, do they hand out a ZUS map with the Michelin map?



I pulled up some of the linked maps , most are dated Jan 1, 1997 ,,, they are 1 month away from being 10 years outdated and they show a serious cancer even then , If I was the king of England I'd set charges in the Chunnel and start building my version of a MOAB....


42 posted on 11/25/2006 6:31:36 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: voletti

ZUS (pronounced zoos) seems quite appropriate.


43 posted on 11/25/2006 6:48:22 PM PST by reg45
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To: voletti

As good a story that this might make, from reading the blog, this seems to be a misunderstanding.

The zones mentioned are targeted for economic development and are not related (directly) to Muslim control.

We need to pride ourselves in getting the facts straight first, then applying our superior ideology. It's the Left that applies ideology first, then manipulates the truth to fit the ideology. That's why their ideology is evil.


44 posted on 11/25/2006 6:49:52 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Alas, my friend. The truth is dire. The so-called targetting for economic developemnt you speak of is de-facto jiyza to muzlim rule. How is it that most other imigrant communities - chinese, vietnamese, indians etc have never made the kind of trouble these muz routinely stir up? Call me biased if you will, but we've collectively let down our defences too far with charitable explanations of the kind you offer. Time to call a spade a spade here.

Have a nice day.


45 posted on 11/25/2006 7:27:27 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

This is shabby reporting indeed. Jihadwatch as a media organizaiton is quickly falling into WND and DEBKA level of yellow dog tabloid.

http://www.newarkuez.org/uez-map.html

Here is the equivalent "Urban Enterprise Zone" or UEZ in Newark, NJ. The yellow zone on that map is the Central and South Wards. French Muslim thugs wouldn't dare walk through those areas of Newark.



Is the USA any better because our underclass is home bred? Is the USA any better because we imprison more of our underclass, and do so for longer prison terms than the French? Is the USA better off because we have a very diverse immmigrant underclass, or is Balkanization in our future, while in France the ethnic divide is closer to a dichotomy of "ethnic French" and "non-French Ethnics"?


46 posted on 11/25/2006 7:51:19 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: voletti

The U.S. should introduce a "land for peace" Security Council resolution calling for France to cede all 751 "ZUS" zones to Muslim rule, using the Oslo Agreement and Mideast "Roadmap" as precedcents.


47 posted on 11/25/2006 8:00:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: voletti

Looks like some big concentrations in certain areas, by rough count:

Bouches du Rhône with 29

Moselle with 22

Nord with 52

Rhone with 31

Val D'Oise 21

Essone with 26

Seine St Denis with 36


48 posted on 11/25/2006 8:16:37 PM PST by P.O.E.
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To: cynwoody
... Until France becomes the third Islamic nuclear power (after Iran).

But France has SLBM's which could be an even more serious threat than third rate ICBM's.

49 posted on 11/25/2006 8:46:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: ROTB

"Is France nuclear?"

That too.


50 posted on 11/25/2006 10:41:24 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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