Chucky Putzhead Schumer: Reaganism Is Dead

Daily Politics ^ | November 29, 2006 | Ben Smith

[nwrep]

Chuck swung by the Daily News for an editorial board meeting this morning, which you'll be able to read more about in tomorrow's News.

A couple of tidbits from his broader discussion (forthcoming in book form) of how he sees the shifting terrain and the Democrats' edge struck me:

"We're in better shape than [Republicans] are, because they don't realize that Reaganomics is dead, that the Reagan philosophy is dead," he said. "We realize that New Deal democracy, which is still our paradigm, which is sort of appeal to each group ... that doesn't work any more."

He had said a bit earlier, "The old Reagan theory which dominated -- which is, 'Government is bad, it's out of touch, chop off its hands as soon as it moves.' -- is over."

Not sure the conservative love affair with Chuck is going to last.

[XR7]

Then rather than continue to cheerlead (the election is over) and chastize voters for not believing in the RINO administration, direct your legendary efforts to returning the GOP to its Conservative roots, and the rest will take care of itself.

Touche'

[OldFriend]

IMO, our President deserves nothing but praise for his steadfast determination. He will not waver or falter.

[sam_paine]

What we need is someone who's not tarnished by living in a liberal area.

The election cycle has grown so much longer than in the past, and the trip wires are much higher these days (Bush DUI, Allen mackaka, etc.) meaning that the candidates have to be so clean that they must be fake.

Romney, Duncan Hunter, Haley Barbour Cases in point. How could we have all three houses and a majority of governors, and be starting with a list of good people (hunter and Barbour) and have to include Romney to get it to look like a list!

[ohioWfan]

OldFriend, I truly think it makes some of these bashers feel important to sit safely at their computers with nothing to risk, and no courage required, to belittle a man who has dark and dangerous responsibilities resting solely on his shoulders, and whom as you have said, has never wavered.

I challenge them on this board, but I take them for what their opinion is worth..........very little.

[ohioWfan]

'whom' should have been 'who.' I hate to make mistakes. :)

[Liberty Valance]

LOL! - Here's's hoping Chuckie sticks to his theory all the way around the bowl and down the hole...

[batter]

I included Romney because there are several threads about him. I never stated that the list I made was a conclusive list (I didn't search for all prospective candidates, just some that came to mind other than McCain and Ruddy). My short list was intended only to demonstrate that the field is open and new names are still being submitted.

If you want a comprehensive list or a list of 'sam_paine approved candidates', be my guest, I would be interested in the list and factual information on each candidate.

I haven't decided who I will support yet as I'm gathering info on each. Yes, that means I will give Romney a fair shake. If you don't like him, that's fine - it's your business.

[rfp1234]

--If I was a CSI my first suspect would be today's Republican party. They killed Reaganism--

'Those b@$t@rds!!!!'

[Mo1]

The election cycle has grown so much longer than in the past, and the trip wires are much higher these days (Bush DUI, Allen mackaka, etc.) meaning that the candidates have to be so clean that they must be fake.

We are never going to find a perfect candidate

The Dems realized this .. which is why they invoked Reagan's 11th commandment

Did ya notice the NOW hags and NARL were not screaming and protesting candidates like Bob Casey, Jr over his so called pro life stance??

That doesn't mean that we should give our guys a pass .. it means doing it in a constructive way and not fling mud like many on our side did

This past election we played right into the dems hands .. they would throw out and accusation and then sit back and watch us rip each other apart

[Reagan Man]

>>>>Government grew under Reagan.

The overall size of the federal government grew under Reagan, but not as a percentage of GDP. Reagan left office with the federal bureaucracy actually 1.0% smaller as a percentage of GDP. And that was with huge increases in the national defense budget and expansion of the US military. Reagan accomplished this by reducing overall welfare state expenditures from 53.4% under Carter`s last budget in 1981, to 49.7% under Reagan's last budget in 1989.

Under Bush, the federal budget has grown 1.8% as a percentage of GDP. Bush also has spent more of the annual budget on the welfare state then any US President in history. Bush`s own Office of Management and Budget shows spending on Social Security, Medicare, Prescription Drugs and other entitlements will reach 67.2% (49.7% under Reagan) of the budget by 2009, Bush`s last year in office. Most experts believe it will go a lot higher since Bush added the trillion dollar drug program on the backs of the US taxpayers. Not to mention doubling the Education Department budget.

On national defense/military buildup, Bush is spending a whole lot less prosecuting the War on Terror, then Reagan spent to win the Cold War. According to Bush`s own OMB, average national defense spending is at 17.8% of the annual budget. Reagan`s annual national defense budget was 26.7%.

The facts speak for themselves. No matter how you spin it, Bush is no Reagan. Bush tossed aside the conservative agenda of Reaganism and Newt's Contract With America. Bush ignored the conservative agenda, and on November 7th the GOP paid a severe price.

Btw, Reaganism isn't dead. Reaganism lives in the hearts and minds of conservatives. It just needs strong conservative leaders to revive its basic principles.

[ct_libertarian]

Not the way I see it... Chuck

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[Becki]

Thank you for being so eloquent. I am so tired of the "concience" voters that are so vocal. They are, indeed, very destructive of everything they claim to support.

They have created the very situation they decry. The bad thing is they have damaged the rest of us, as well as the country, in their selfishness.

Becki

[rfp1234]

--Can you honestly say that Republicans continued the Reagan legacy?--

Newt continued the legacy but was rudely interrupted. It's not quite dead, it's in suspended animation.

[Howlin]

:-)

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Reaganism can't be dead because, BECAUSE THE TRUTH HAS IT'S OWN INDEPENDENT EXISTENCE.

Even if every GOPer 'cept for one (that would be me, gives up on Reaganism, it still would be aliive.

[Howlin]

Thank you for being so eloquent. I am so tired of the "concience" voters that are so vocal. They are, indeed, very destructive of everything they claim to support. They have created the very situation they decry. The bad thing is they have damaged the rest of us, as well as the country, in their selfishness.

And they seem to be VERY happy and proud of it, don't they?

Brava on your post.

[sachem longrifle]

This is from a guy that considers draconian gun control, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, radical homosexuality, and unfettered abortion on demand mainstream.

[Just A Nobody]

then I can safely assume that there really is NOBODY waiting in the wings.
I can't see anyone.

Sen. Jeff Sessions
Sen. Tom Coburn
Rep. Duncan Hunter
Rep. Tom Tancredo
Rep. Mike Pence
Gov. Haley Barbour

Rick Santorum, Ken Blackwell, Diana Irey, Michael Steele, Greg Hopkins, George Allen.....should not be overlooked simply due to their recent losses, IMO.

[MindBender26]

Totally correct

[Howlin]

There was a time when I was convinced I'd never despise anybody as much as I despised Bill Clinton.

I was wrong; WAY wrong.

These people set my teeth on edge.