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Gingrich calls Iraq war a 'failure'
The Boston Globe ^ | 11/29/06 | James W. Pindell

Posted on 11/29/2006 9:48:42 AM PST by jamese777

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To: frogjerk

The US will be around long after Newt has given up the ghost.

The next generation is much more conservative than we are having seen what several generations of left-wing initiatives produces.

And when are we pulling the troops out of Cuba? It's been 108 years and still no exit strategy?


41 posted on 11/29/2006 10:05:56 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ricoshea

Got to agree. For sheer political selfishness these guys publicly state that Iraq is a failure. Is Iraq now facing hard times? Yes, so let's stop being PC and either do what needs to be done or GET OUT! Enough of this nonsense of ignoring the 800 lb gorillas in the room (Syria and Iran). The better question is, "Do we have the national will to persevere and win?"


42 posted on 11/29/2006 10:07:18 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: RedRover

Good description of them...


43 posted on 11/29/2006 10:07:48 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: wideawake
At least he learned from his mistakes. That's more than I can say for F'n Kerry. He is still out there putting his foot in his mouth.
44 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:04 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
He is alive because he is a highly flamboyant figure who is not very smart.

He telegraphs his every move and is incapable of undertaking anything with secrecy or discretion.

The most radical Shi'ites follow him and as a result their movements are highly visible and easily monitored.

His slavishness to Persian foreigners and belligerent insistence on his own importance offends and alienates the majority of Shi'ites who look to the pro-democracy, government-aligned Ayatollah Al-Sistani as a relgious leader and who distrust foreign, Iranian influence on Shi'ite institutions.

If Sadr were killed, he would likely be replaced by a smarter, more discreet warlord who would be able to build broader alliances for the radical agenda among Iraqi Shi'ites.

45 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:15 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
And when are we pulling the troops out of Cuba?

Err....um.....how many thousands of those troops have died recently?

46 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:25 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: jamese777

Nice headline except for the fact that he didn't say that. I saw the speech on C-SPAN. What he said was the war was a success taking out Saddam in less than a month. He argues that the current strategy in Iraq has failed and another way needs to be found to bring Iraq into a liberal democracy and kill Islamists. Hard to argue.


47 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:37 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: jamese777

What kind of speech was this? Can't succeed period but if President Bush admits failure he can reach the third phase which may lead to success? I've changed my opinion about Newt, he's an idiot!


48 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:44 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Well yes, Reagan did cut and run from Beirut, but that was the biggest mistake of his presidency, which laid the groundwork for the terror-tactic wars we now face.

Agreed. You can thank big Jim Baker for that too!

49 posted on 11/29/2006 10:09:39 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: jamese777

Newt hasn't said a smart thing in 5 years.


50 posted on 11/29/2006 10:10:43 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: fish hawk
If Reagan was still president

We would have cut and run as soon as terrorists killed any troops, just like Reagan cut and ran from Beirut?

Stop living in the past.

51 posted on 11/29/2006 10:10:44 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: jamese777

Hey everyone, WE WON THE STINKING WAR!

Iraq is having trouble setting up their new government.

But Sadr must die in order for them to do this right.


52 posted on 11/29/2006 10:10:48 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: jamese777
The "war" was a huge success. It toppled Saddam and took away a potential government supporter of Al Qaeda.

The reconstruction has been a failure, partially due to too much civilian and UN involvement when Iraq really needed an unabashedly American military governor to play the role Douglas MacArthur played in post-war Japan.

The giant error was to try to pretend that Iraq's reconstruction was an Arab effort, and that the US wasn't really pulling the new leaders' puppet strings. Presumably, this was to avoid "inflaming the Arab street". We should have gone right ahead and set up a representative government based on our system of laws, limited the participation of radical parties, and not hesitated to publicly hang every last terrorist who took a shot at our soldiers.

Iraq was defeated, and the whole Arab world needed daily reminders of that for the next five years - mess with the US and get Toby Keith's proverbial "boot in your ass". Unfortunately, we decided to pretend that it was all some sort of collegial effort - as if Tommy Franks had just stopped by Baghdad for a Sunday barbecue and took a couple of shots at a burglar he happened to find looting the garage while he was visiting.

Now, we have only two choices - either launch a major military offensive to destroy the militia, assign a military governor to Iraq, and stop playing patty-cake with other Arab governments, or set a date for withdrawal and let the situation devolve into Vietnam II.

I think it's already too late for the first option.

53 posted on 11/29/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: gdani

Sometimes FREEPERS are so hypocritical. They will turn on someone in a second. I can't believe it!!! My only hope is that these ones bashing are the ones that have been bashing the whole time. I can't tell you how many times this happens here. One minute the person is a saint. Then they say a comment and all of a suddent the same person is Satan.


54 posted on 11/29/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: jamese777

If getting votes was as easy as getting headlines, then Gingrich might have a political future to look forward to. Of course, if getting votes were as easy as getting headlines, then Mr. Pickle Princess would be known as Mr. President.


55 posted on 11/29/2006 10:11:18 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: T. Jefferson

Take any two major cities in this country, say Detroit and Washington, D.C. More americans are murdered here every month than in the Iraq. We need to pull out of Cleveland, it's a quagmire and a failure. Time to redeploy to Allentown. Newt has now had his Shark moment as far as I'm concerned. We re-align our strategies and tactics on a daily basis. Where the hell is Newt living not to know this, up Hillary's junk in the trunk?


56 posted on 11/29/2006 10:11:43 AM PST by T. Jefferson
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To: Patrick1
He argues that the current strategy in Iraq has failed and another way needs to be found to bring Iraq into a liberal democracy and kill Islamists.

And he makes sense.

Hard to argue.

Oh just wait. I'm sure some wit will call Newt a "surrender monkey" soon enough.

57 posted on 11/29/2006 10:11:51 AM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

The alternative to that is to just shut up. Neither one of us can do that, right.


58 posted on 11/29/2006 10:12:18 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: jamese777

Maybe Newt is just pandering to the squishy middle with these comments.

Either way, I don't like politicians who pander. Newt's (I thought) better than that.


59 posted on 11/29/2006 10:12:50 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: jamese777

It was a great speech on C-Span last night.

I would love for as many people as possible to see it.


60 posted on 11/29/2006 10:13:28 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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