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Hooked On Food (Food is the Next 'Smoking Ban')
The Osgood File ^ | December 1, 2006 | Charles Osgood

Posted on 12/01/2006 2:52:42 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

When you feel compelled repeatedly to chain smoke cigarettes or shoot up heroin because you just can't help yourself, that's called addiction. And some scientists are saying that for many overeaters.

"Food is like a drug," said Anne Kelly, neuroscientist.

Ann Kelly is a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin who has been looking into the brain processes of addiction. Not only to narcotics, but to certain kinds of food.

"I hesitate to say there is such a thing as food addiction but what we have to keep in mind is that food can affect the brain in a very similar way as do addictive drugs," said Kelly.

In her lab, she studies the brains of rats addicted to morphine and other rats whose favorite food is a high fat sugary lard.

"It's sort of like cookie dough." said Kelly.

And the brain scans of the morphine addicted rats when they think they're about to get a fix, LOOK very much like those of the rats conditioned to fatty sweets. when they're about to be FED. Aha, says lawyer John Banzhaf.

"This could be the smoking gun, we could say fat is the next tobacco. Alright how about the legal argument?" said John Banzhaf, law professor.

That's what has lawyers practically salivating. FOOD. could be their new Tobacco.

"If we can change the six major fast food companies so they are providing clear and conspicuous disclosure on their menus of fat and calories and they're providing appropriate health warnings, we will have a dramatic impact on the overall problem of obesity and it will happen immediately," said Banzhaf.

But some, including Dr. Elizabeth Whelan of the American Council for Science and Health, don't like where all this seems to be headed.

"When you say a food is addictive, what you're really saying is that the obese person is a victim and you know that's I think abandoning individual responsibility." said Dr. Elizabeth Whelan, American Council for Science and Health.


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John Banzhaf. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid of this man. He's the Smoke Gnatzie that sued the tobacco companies.
1 posted on 12/01/2006 2:53:09 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No alcohol in bars.

No food in restaurants.

Helmets for pedestrians.

Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 2:54:32 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Gabz; SheLion

Ping! This ought to p*ss you off.

Think the Smoke Gnatzies around here will finally get a CLUE that this is all about CONTROL of the proletariat and has NOTHING to do with cigarettes or food?


3 posted on 12/01/2006 2:55:31 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"Food is like a drug," said Anne Kelly, neuroscientist.

Evidently, so are lawsuits.


4 posted on 12/01/2006 2:55:35 PM PST by L98Fiero (The media as a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Gabz; leda; SheLion

well, there you go.


5 posted on 12/01/2006 2:55:50 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm suprised no one has drawn a bead on these guys yet. Thousands of people get mugged or assualted each year and HE gets out unscathed.

NOT that I'm wishing it, of course *cough*.


6 posted on 12/01/2006 2:59:27 PM PST by coydog (Cowardice does not make you safe. It makes you a safe target. - - Dale Amon)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I might be addicted to breathing as well as eating... I must really need help.


7 posted on 12/01/2006 3:00:45 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yes, I'm addicted to food. It's a bad habit I'm trying to kick. We should idolize those super-models who don't seem to suffer from this addiction.

Geesh.

Don't even try to TOUCH my transfat.

8 posted on 12/01/2006 3:01:29 PM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

These people are flakes but they know how to make money on it. A young female relative recently went off to a six-week, $50,000 program to cure her "food addiction." She's barely even overweight. Gimme a break.


9 posted on 12/01/2006 3:01:59 PM PST by livius
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hooked on food?

Why not just call it gluttony?

It's one of the seven deadly sins...not PC at all...


10 posted on 12/01/2006 3:03:06 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If food get the addiction status marker, will that make fatties qualify for health treatment at a fat farm. Where or where will the smokers get their treatment or do they simply continue to be addicts unworthy of treatment and undeserving of the money collected from big tobacco.


11 posted on 12/01/2006 3:04:04 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; ...
"This could be the smoking gun, we could say fat is the next tobacco. Alright how about the legal argument?" said John Banzhaf, law professor.

NANNY STATE PING...

Banzhalfassed will not stop ......... however, after the last time I saw him on TV, I would suggest he stop eating. The man is obese.

12 posted on 12/01/2006 3:09:05 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Think the Smoke Gnatzies around here will finally get a CLUE that this is all about CONTROL of the proletariat and has NOTHING to do with cigarettes or food?

the very sad answer to that question is a very resounding NO.

13 posted on 12/01/2006 3:10:43 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Think the Smoke Gnatzies around here will finally get a CLUE that this is all about CONTROL of the proletariat and has NOTHING to do with cigarettes or food?

OK, we know second-hand smoke and the occasional piece of fried chicken are not a major health threat. Cigarette smoking itself, on the other hand, is a major health threat to the smoker himself. What the government can or should do to discourage smoking itself, I don't know, but a product when used as intended takes 14 years off of the life its average user, perhaps the government should try to discourage smoking. That to me is the only possible reason to ban smoking in public, not because the smoke actually hurts non-smokers (the evidence is that it does but the danger is slight), but simply to discourage smoking.

But I understand the principle that a government that has the power to ban something like smoking in taverns is a government with too much reach into people's personal business.

14 posted on 12/01/2006 3:11:45 PM PST by megatherium
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I've got to go to the store to pick up some prime steaks, cold beer and smokes...we're staying home tonight, where I can enjoy a fatty meal, nicotine AND alchohol.

I feel sorry for the restaurants that have been forced to go "non-smoking"...we used to eat/drink out ALOT.

Upside, is that I've perfected the grilled rib eye.

15 posted on 12/01/2006 3:11:51 PM PST by demsux
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To: livius
These people are flakes but they know how to make money on it. A young female relative recently went off to a six-week, $50,000 program to cure her "food addiction." She's barely even overweight.

In all fairness, there does exist a problem with the way people eat, but like always, the left turns it into a government issue, and not a personal responsibility.

I've always played sports and never been overweight, but I got hypoglycemia because I was eating so poorly. I went to stay with my aunt for a while (she's a nutritionalist) and I actually went through a week of sugar withdrawal. Shaking, headaches, irritability, the whole shebang. Its amazing how unhealthy food is in general these days. There's so much transfat, sugar and chemical in everything.

But charging people $50,000 to help them learn to eat better? That's ridiculous! And lawsuits are even more so.

16 posted on 12/01/2006 3:14:42 PM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have an actual physical addiction to food. It isn't just psichological. My body has developed an actual need for it. If I go off it too long I get the DT's. I am confident that eventually it would kill me.


17 posted on 12/01/2006 3:14:50 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"If we can change the six major fast food companies so they are providing clear and conspicuous disclosure on their menus of fat and calories and they're providing appropriate health warnings, we will have a dramatic impact on the overall problem of obesity and it will happen immediately," said Banzhaf.

Change what? That information is already readily available, and people still flock to those places because it's quick and tasty.

These morons need to get a life.

18 posted on 12/01/2006 3:15:26 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: megatherium

I have little problem wiht government banning smoking tobacco in public places, my problem is the government seeking to ban smoking tobacco i private places.


19 posted on 12/01/2006 3:16:52 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Ann Kelly is a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin who has been looking into the brain processes of addiction. Not only to narcotics, but to certain kinds of food.

Welcome to the unintended consequences of the drug war.

20 posted on 12/01/2006 3:18:36 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: megatherium
What the government can or should do to discourage smoking itself, I don't know, but a product when used as intended takes 14 years off of the life its average user, perhaps the government should try to discourage smoking.

I'd rather the government stay out of it. They've gotten billions from the tobacco companies, and instead of using it to 'discourage' smoking, they spend it on other stuff.

When enough people quit smoking to make a dent in the taxes they pay on cigarettes, the government, who is addicted to tax dollars, has to find another way to get their fix. In the end, the smoking nazis (not saying you are one) will be paying taxes on something else to make up for the 'success' of their efforts to stop smoking.

21 posted on 12/01/2006 3:19:20 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you, you said it. They are so into what they hate they Have yet to realize that others hate what they do ! Geez, how stupid are we?


22 posted on 12/01/2006 3:19:25 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

With alcohol, a bartender is required by law to stop serving you if you are "too drunk".

I can just see the person step up to the counter at McDonalds: "Sorry ma'am. You're too fat. By law we can get you a salad or a cup of coffee. But no dressing, cream or sugar."


23 posted on 12/01/2006 3:21:37 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Anything that makes you feel better than your present state is addictive. The brain will not believe it the first time. If it is consistent after three or four times then you can call it an addiction, it all depends on the swiftness and degree of change. It could be by music, although I can`t see how due to the current music holocaust. It could be by sight, by touch, by smell, you name it. Anything that changes attitude is addictive. This is why kids are addicted to candy and toys, why liberals are addicted to evil and terror. It brings them to a place that is more fun. The thing to remember though is addiction is like sex. 90% of the fun is in the foreplay. An alcoholic can drink and drink but the happier alcoholic will be the one who goes straight for months and looks forward to that booze on a certain date. It`s all a matter of control. For example, a liberal may want to embolden Al-Qaeda for the unpteenth time, and when he does, the reward is not as great. But if the liberal waits for months without doing anything and then does it, the reward is greater. This is why liberals constantly spew, because they have no self control.


24 posted on 12/01/2006 3:22:42 PM PST by Screamname (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have a greate love for food. Because it has kept me alive for so long. ;)


25 posted on 12/01/2006 3:22:55 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: megatherium
but a product when used as intended takes 14 years off of the life its average user, perhaps the government should try to discourage smoking

Why?

The 14 years come off the end of the smokers life. That's 14 years of social security and medicare that are paid for by the smoker while he/she is working, but never collected by the smoker since he/she dies early.

From a purely economic stand-point, it is in the government's best interest to PROMOTE smoking. It may be the only way to keep those two programs solvent for a few more years.

26 posted on 12/01/2006 3:24:14 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"And the brain scans of the morphine addicted rats when they think they're about to get a fix, LOOK very much like those of the rats conditioned to fatty sweets. when they're about to be FED."

I'm sure these rat brains also LOOK very much like those of trial lawyers who are about to FEAST on ill-gotten gains from another business-killing lawsuit.

IMO!


27 posted on 12/01/2006 3:26:52 PM PST by Mr J
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To: The Blitherer

"We should idolize those super-models who don't seem to suffer from this addiction."

They traded theirs for cocaine. :)


28 posted on 12/01/2006 3:28:18 PM PST by L98Fiero (The media as a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Several years ago a friend and I stopped off at a restaurant for a hamburger and fries after work. Being it was late at night, there were only a few there. An older couple and 4 or 5 teenagers.

Right after we received our orders two of the teenagers got into a quarrel and started to fight. My friend said "we had better leave. The police will arrive soon." I told him "Good, because they should be here in time to see a real fight if those teens make it over to my table and interfere with my meal."

Moral of story: Go ahead and interfere with my meal. Make My Day!

That goes for Mr. John Banzhaf and any other fool.

29 posted on 12/01/2006 3:30:52 PM PST by jerry639
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To: demsux; Diana in Wisconsin
I feel sorry for the restaurants that have been forced to go "non-smoking"...we used to eat/drink out ALOT.

I understand, that was our position when we still lived in Delaware.

Upside, is that I've perfected the grilled rib eye.

So did my husband!!! In fact he's doing one as I type this :)

30 posted on 12/01/2006 3:35:07 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"When the steak begins to cook
Then I really dont care anymore
About all the doctors in this town
And everybody putting everybody down
And all of the politicians makin' crazy sounds
All the cheese doodles piled up in mounds, yeah


31 posted on 12/01/2006 3:36:08 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: demsux; Gabz; All

"Upside, is that I've perfected the grilled rib eye."

Actually, I see some of this as a return to "normal." Grilling meat is not a bad skill to have, along with baking bread, growing your own food in the garden, knowing how to sew on a button, pack your own shotgun loads, make a batch of jelly, etc.

The Socialists are going to create a total underclass of people like us...and we are going to live a sweet, sweet life off the grid while denying them their blood-lust; tax dollars. No tax on the food we grow ourselves to feed our families. No tax on keeping a goat or a milk cow (but they might want to tag them; we can resist.) No tax on me keeping laying hens for eggs. No tax on cigs we roll ourselves. (I don't smoke, but totally understand the concept.) Modest "taxes" on a hunting license, but there's plenty of roadkill out there. ;)

Think I'm nuts? Well, just think about it for a little while...

I totally agree with John Edwards. There ARE 'Two Americas.' And Thank God I'm on the underside, LOL! My worst nightmare would be waking up as one of the clueless DOLTS who need a man-servant to dress them in the morning. ;)


32 posted on 12/01/2006 3:44:29 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Screamname

"The thing to remember though is addiction is like sex. 90% of the fun is in the foreplay."

Could you spread that information to EVERY male on the planet? We women of the world will make it worth your time, LOL! :)


33 posted on 12/01/2006 3:48:10 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What a bunch of baloney.

Look for a lot of fat and formerly fat politicians to get on this bandwagon. The food made 'em that way. What made Bubba have a heart attack? McDonalds! And whose fault was it? McDonalds!

What'll it be after food? SEX!


34 posted on 12/01/2006 3:51:20 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Gabz
"Food is like a drug," said Anne Kelly, neuroscientist.

So is exercising. i.e. jogging for it releases endorphins into the body and makes one feel good.

We need to regulate jogging.

35 posted on 12/01/2006 3:59:24 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: The Blitherer
and I actually went through a week of sugar withdrawal. Shaking, headaches, irritability, the whole shebang

So you agree that food is addicting? Or, that at least sugar is?

Its amazing how unhealthy food is in general these days. There's so much transfat, sugar and chemical in everything.

What's truly amazing is the nonsense that some people will believe. They are exactly what the food Nazi's hope for. Trans fat makes up less than 3% of the diet of the average American. Is sugar unhealthy or is the overconsumption of sugar unhealthy? Can you name one food that isn't made up of chemicals?

You may think lawsuits are ridiculous but it seems that you're in favor of something being done. Can the government, by exerting greater control over what we're allowed to eat, stop food from being so unhealthy in general these days?

36 posted on 12/01/2006 4:01:44 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm so sick of people dictating to the rest of us how we should live and look. These same scientists sit and wonder why so many people have serious eating disorders (either underweight or overweight). Gee I wonder why?? (/sar)


37 posted on 12/01/2006 4:01:52 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: L98Fiero
They traded theirs for cocaine. :)

Which, ironically, they're trying to legalize.

Or is that pot?

38 posted on 12/01/2006 4:02:34 PM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: MEGoody
In the end, the smoking nazis (not saying you are one) will be paying taxes on something else to make up for the 'success' of their efforts to stop smoking.

Welcome to the fat tax. Coming to a fast food restaurant near you.

39 posted on 12/01/2006 4:04:03 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: RobRoy

How many lawsuits would it take for McD's to go out of business?


40 posted on 12/01/2006 4:06:30 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: Andy'smom; bradactor; politicalwit; Spunky; mplsconservative; don-o; boadecelia; freeangel; ...
**Food Ping**

Must have seen how my boys and nephews eat.

41 posted on 12/01/2006 4:07:58 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Mase
My goodness. Relax. I don't know if you skipped through my post looking for bits and pieces you could get inflamed at, but if you'd read the entire post you'd have noticed I was not in favor of government regulation of any kind. I think it's a personal responsibility for people to take care of their own bodies.

I was just pointing out that sugar is addictive to a certain degree. If you disagree, I suggest you eliminate all sugars and carbs from you diet for a month and see what happens. We also have a lot more preservatives and transfats in food now then we've had in the past. That can be a good thing in that it helps us ship food greater distances and preserve it longer. But it has drawbacks as well.

Try not to assume the worst so quickly.

42 posted on 12/01/2006 4:08:36 PM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The Socialists are going to create a total underclass of people like us...and we are going to live a sweet, sweet life off the grid while denying them their blood-lust; tax dollars.

I like being a member of that underclass.

43 posted on 12/01/2006 4:12:16 PM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Mase

They proposed doing that in the city of Detroit. I don't think they ever passed the bill though. They were too busy banning cell phone use while driving in the city.


44 posted on 12/01/2006 4:12:29 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: demsux

You'll save money staying home. Make sure you use a lot of garlic on that Ribeye.


45 posted on 12/01/2006 4:13:15 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: The Blitherer

"If you disagree, I suggest you eliminate all sugars and carbs from you diet for a month and see what happens."

I quit smoking but I'll be damned if I give up my Coca-Cola. Nectar of the gods. ;-)


46 posted on 12/01/2006 4:17:19 PM PST by L98Fiero (The media as a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: Screamname

I get it now. So, if I like to spend time with friends, I must be addicted to them, too. ;-)


47 posted on 12/01/2006 4:18:39 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Gabz

Banzhaf is back, just like you said. He should be banned.

You'd think the sheeple would have learned something about this a$$ clown by now. We shall see.


48 posted on 12/01/2006 4:28:56 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: The Blitherer
I was just pointing out that sugar is addictive to a certain degree.

This is the kind of nonsense that will lead us to more restrictions on what we can and cannot consume. I can hear the defense now.....the Twinkies made me do it, your honor. No wait, they've already used that one.

Sugar is no more addicting than a Ritz cracker. To believe sugar is addicting you'd have to believe that all carbohydrates are addicting. It's this kind of ignorance that should worry people because it plays right into the nanny staters hands.

I suggest you eliminate all sugars and carbs from you diet for a month and see what happens.

Other than not having any energy what exactly do you think will happen? Do you think my body will tell me that I should give it what it needs?

We also have a lot more preservatives and transfats in food now then we've had in the past

Yet our food supply is safer than ever, we're healthier than ever and we're living longer than ever. Sounds scary. Trans fat is feared because it raises bad cholesterol and reduces good cholesterol, right? High cholesterol is responsible for coronary heart disease, right? Trans fat is everywhere now, right? Then how is it that the incidence of coronary heart disease has been plummeting in this country while the consumption of trans fats has been increasing?

But it has drawbacks as well.

What drawbacks?

Try not to assume the worst so quickly.

I think I assumed correctly about your misunderstanding of these food ingredients. It's real hard to find anything but the extreme positions of the food Nazi's regarding the food debate. This article makes clear why that is. Unless people begin to understand the truth about these things we'll just end up giving up more of our freedoms to know nothing busybodies who want to determine what's best for us. I'm relaxed but I'm certainly not casual about the issue. This article should really scare conservatives and anyone else who thinks personal freedom is worth protecting.

49 posted on 12/01/2006 4:32:38 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Just got back from the store...two PRIME bone-in rib eyes about 1 1/2 inch thick, 12 pack of Bud, Winston lights and a nice bottle of red wine.

BTW, the kids are gone tonight.

wink, wink...

50 posted on 12/01/2006 4:33:42 PM PST by demsux
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