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Say no to APís shoddy work
Boston Herald ^ | December 3, 2006 | Jules Crittenden

Posted on 12/03/2006 6:51:30 AM PST by baystaterebel

When a company defrauds its customers, or delivers shoddy goods, the customers sooner or later are going to take their business elsewhere. But if that company has a virtual monopoly, and offers something its customers must have, they may have no choice but to keep taking it.

That’s when the customers, en masse, need to raise a stink. That’s when someone else with the resources needs to seriously consider whether the time is ripe to compete.

The Associated Press is embroiled in a scandal. Conservative bloggers, the new media watchdogs, lifted a rock at the AP.

Curt at Floppingaces, www.floppingaces2.blogspot.com, led the charge. He thought there was something strange about an AP report, and took a second look at it, then a third look. He and others blew the lid off it. The AP is making up war crimes. But the resulting stink in the blogosphere has barely wrinkled a nose in the mainstream press. The ethics-obsessed Poynter Institute seems to be oblivious to it.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; corruption; enemy; enemywithin; jamilhussein; media; mediabias; msm; within
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You would think there would be more of a stink from the main stream media over the AP's obvious bias.

But then.....

Were talking about the main stream media here.

1 posted on 12/03/2006 6:51:33 AM PST by baystaterebel
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To: baystaterebel

yeah but they all support each other

msm lifts ap articles and ap knows who will carry their water

its all working hand in glove

thats why 90% of news is totally unreliable, well maybe im a bit generous on the %


2 posted on 12/03/2006 6:53:52 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: baystaterebel
They will keep getting away with junk reporting as long as people listen to it.

The real problem is when conservatives listen to them. Such as lynching Denny Hastert for Foley's peccadillos.

Nothing will change as long as people (including conservatives) are addicted to false scandal.

3 posted on 12/03/2006 6:57:10 AM PST by what's up
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To: baystaterebel

Thank you for posting this.

The drivebymedia is doing serious damage to our country.


4 posted on 12/03/2006 7:08:11 AM PST by upchuck (Republicans didn`t lose this time around because they were conservative, but because they WEREN`T!)
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To: baystaterebel

The MSM gave us bill clinton by burying his past and glorifying his present. They almost got away with it by uplifting two despicable people.

I am very worried that the MSM will elect the most depicable of all in 08.


5 posted on 12/03/2006 7:10:19 AM PST by winodog
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To: what's up

I've simply stopped buying newspapers, period. I agree with the comparison to the US auto industry. In the seventies and eighties the Big Three decided they could build anything and people would have to take it.

I had Chevys that didn't run, Buicks, Olds, Fords, Chyrslers and Plymouths. All of which spent serious time in the shop.

I have owned two Toyota Camrys. Change the oil, never a single problem for 120,000 miles.

Newspapers better figure this out.


6 posted on 12/03/2006 7:11:03 AM PST by kjo
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To: baystaterebel
You would think there would be more of a stink from the main stream media over the AP's obvious bias.

They aren't biased. They are partisan. There is a difference.

7 posted on 12/03/2006 7:12:38 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: baystaterebel

The MSM has not come to terms with what Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit.com has called "An Army of Davids." With circulation plummeting, newspapers need to realize that readers have found other choices. The press needs to tell AP to shape up.


8 posted on 12/03/2006 7:13:35 AM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: baystaterebel

Geesh, give some decent context with the post. There's no idea suggested as to what AP story or stories this is about.


9 posted on 12/03/2006 7:14:56 AM PST by bvw
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To: winodog

The MSM is high on their election victory of this year - there is no way they aren't going to go even farther (is that possible?) in 2008.


10 posted on 12/03/2006 7:16:12 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: baystaterebel

They papers are so busy fending off death they have no strength or resources for battling the AP.

The AP allows them to print pages containig advertisements. The AP is merely ad fodder.


11 posted on 12/03/2006 7:16:41 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: bvw
"Geesh, give some decent context with the post. There's no idea suggested as to what AP story or stories this is about."

Yes there is, both in the story itself at the link and at the source cited in the story: www.floppingaces2.blogspot.com

12 posted on 12/03/2006 7:18:00 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: baystaterebel

The MSM has shed all pretext of neutrality. It's become open partisan warfare with the media adopting the ethics of a marketing campaign that's hawking 'male enhancement' pills. Half truths and 'spin' are now passe', replaced with lies, fabrication and self censorship.


13 posted on 12/03/2006 7:21:13 AM PST by Spok (What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: SW6906

http://floppingaces2.blogspot.com/2006/11/getting-news-from-enemy-update-iv.html


14 posted on 12/03/2006 7:22:38 AM PST by RonDog
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To: baystaterebel

The present and future of the MSM (including the AP) rests in our hands. With subscribtion rates plummeting and viewers vanishing, as much as they try to pretend that they are still in charge of the news media, behind closed doors they know they are in trouble. As long as we refuse to buy their fiction or tune in to watch their crockumentaries and so-called "news programs", they know that the end is approaching. We have seen tiny patadigm shifts at papers such as the WaPo that has, in recent weeks, published a couple of articles that chastised and exposed liberals for the party of lies and deceipt that they are.

We can finish the job if more of us drop our newspaper subscription (addiction) and find something else to watch besides TV news; whether local or national - they ALL suck!!

It's in OUR hands!


15 posted on 12/03/2006 7:25:43 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: RonDog

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=ap


16 posted on 12/03/2006 7:25:46 AM PST by RonDog
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To: SW6906

And I'm sure neither of those places play the damn girly boy tease like was done here.


17 posted on 12/03/2006 7:27:05 AM PST by bvw
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To: baystaterebel
Curt at Floppingaces, www.floppingaces2.blogspot.com, led the charge.

More LIES from the LEFT. Credit should be given where credit is due. Of course the Boston Herald is yet more of the same-old, same-old LEFTIST dinosaur media out to present itself as the bastion of the "middle ground".

SALON: 'MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AS A GOING CONCERN' Yahoo ^ | 6/26/02
The KEYWORDS DEATHWATCH appear in 2002.

Statement by Salon CEO Michael O'Donnell Re Press Reports on Webzine's finances (good for a laugh)
Both of the KEYWORDS DEATHWATCH and LIBERALMEDIA appear in 2002.

And last but certainly not least, below is the GRAND DADDY of Media Deathwatch organizations that has truly LEAD THE CHARGE;

The mission of the Media Research Center (MRC) is to bring balance to the news media. Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that influenced the public's understanding of critical issues. On October 1, 1987, a group of young determined conservatives set out to not only prove — through sound scientific research

1987 is a tad before Curt at Floppingraces2.blogspot.com was "leading".
For those of you in Rio Linda, MRC will celebrating TWENTY YEARS OF SERVICE next year.
18 posted on 12/03/2006 7:31:44 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: bvw
From news.bostonherald.com":
"...It has to do with the AP’s Iraqi stringers and an oft-quoted Iraqi police captain named Jamil Hussein.

Problem is, the Iraqi police say Capt. Hussein does not exist. The Iraqi police and U.S. military say an incident described in an AP report - Iraqi soldiers standing by as people were burned alive in a mosque - didn’t happen. Another AP-reported incident, U.S. soldiers shooting 11 civilians, also never happened, the military says.

When the AP was forced to acknowledge this situation, it did so in a story about a new Interior Ministry policy regarding false reports. The AP buried the fact that its own false report prompted this new policy..."


19 posted on 12/03/2006 7:33:15 AM PST by RonDog
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To: pyx

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"Curt at Floppingaces, www.floppingaces2.blogspot.com, led the charge."

More LIES from the LEFT. Credit should be given where credit is due.
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They are talking about his one particular issue with the AP of the false war crime stories.


20 posted on 12/03/2006 7:44:12 AM PST by avacado
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To: pyx

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"Curt at Floppingaces, www.floppingaces2.blogspot.com, led the charge."

More LIES from the LEFT. Credit should be given where credit is due.
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They are talking about his one particular issue with the AP of the false war crime stories.


21 posted on 12/03/2006 7:44:14 AM PST by avacado
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To: baystaterebel

I once had an old lady tell me if you read something in the newspaper it's the truth because they are not allowed to print anything that isn't true. I laughed !!!


22 posted on 12/03/2006 7:50:28 AM PST by Obie Wan
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To: kjo

I have a Toyota pick up 4wd with 400,000+ and it runs great.


23 posted on 12/03/2006 7:59:06 AM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: baystaterebel

The AP is infested with blowhard, babbling baboons.

At one time newsrooms were filled WW II vets, Korea vets and people who lived through the depression. They lived with their feet firmly planted on the ground.

Now we see moonbeam walkers, weeping metrosexuals and white morons who profess guilt about their racial identity in newsrooms.

At one newsroom I worked in the assistant editor hired his doppy daughter as a reporter. She wrote stuff like: See Spot. See Spot run. Run, Spot, run.

Total doggerel.

Her writing drove the city editor up the wall. Whenever he edited her crap we could hear him swearing. He'd near bite his cigar in half and his eyeballs would be popping out his head. He hated her, but he hated the nitwit assistant editor more. The woman was a total moron but the assistant editor was three times that.

This was the beginning of the end for newspapers. The twit female eventually quit and went on to get married and torture her husband. I think the unfortunate man moved on to become a mass murderer.

Anyway, AP is beyond saving. It's filled with dilletantes, fops and airheads confused about their species. Or as the city editor might say: F 'em all.


24 posted on 12/03/2006 8:03:03 AM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: RonDog

Thanks.


25 posted on 12/03/2006 8:03:58 AM PST by bvw
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To: martinallex

Lookee here, Martin!


26 posted on 12/03/2006 8:04:07 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: baystaterebel
The Associated Press is embroiled in a scandal. Conservative bloggers, the new media watchdogs, lifted a rock at the AP.

I guess that would make us at FR the Un-Associated Press.

27 posted on 12/03/2006 8:07:42 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: kjo

Excellent. I can say the same for watching my own family and friends be frustrated with their American cars & trucks; while my Hondas were amazingly low maintenance and very reliable. Then, when I went to sell each Honda; I was equally amazed at its resale value, as well.


28 posted on 12/03/2006 8:09:55 AM PST by NordP (America Votes: Turns out there ARE more Punks than Patriots ! ....so sad)
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To: baystaterebel

Many of us realized decades ago that the entire "Mainstream Newsmedia" were delivering shoddy goods, dropped them like a bag of rancid potatoes, and found information elsewhere. It'll be a healthy day for all of us when the rest of the population wises up and does the same.


29 posted on 12/03/2006 8:18:53 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.")
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To: baystaterebel

Lift up more rocks.


30 posted on 12/03/2006 8:40:40 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: baystaterebel
AP busted. Reuters busted. CBS busted. The New York Times busted.

And yet, the masses insist on believing everything the media feeds them.

Go figure.

31 posted on 12/03/2006 9:04:30 AM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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To: baystaterebel

"But if that company has a virtual monopoly, and offers something its customers must have, they may have no choice but to keep taking it."

That also applies to public schools.


32 posted on 12/03/2006 9:12:25 AM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: kjo
I've simply stopped buying newspapers, period.

Every year a different sales rep tries to sell us a subscription to the local AP dominated rag. Every year I take the time to explain why I despise AP and encourage the rep to find easier work.

33 posted on 12/03/2006 9:20:54 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: sergeantdave

Your post made me LOL.


34 posted on 12/03/2006 9:25:52 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: Obie Wan

"If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed."

--Mark Twain (1835-1910)


35 posted on 12/03/2006 9:33:39 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Grampa Dave; martin_fierro; Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach

The AP is making up war crimes. But the resulting stink in the blogosphere has barely wrinkled a nose in the mainstream press. The ethics-obsessed Poynter Institute seems to be oblivious to it.

It has to do with the AP’s Iraqi stringers and an oft-quoted Iraqi police captain named Jamil Hussein. Problem is, the Iraqi police say Capt. Hussein does not exist. The Iraqi police and U.S. military say an incident described in an AP report - Iraqi soldiers standing by as people were burned alive in a mosque - didn’t happen. Another AP-reported incident, U.S. soldiers shooting 11 civilians, also never happened, the military says.

When the AP was forced to acknowledge this situation, it did so in a story about a new Interior Ministry policy regarding false reports. The AP buried the fact that its own false report prompted this new policy.

The AP stands by its reporting.. The AP has cast “Capt. Jamil Hussein” simply as someone not authorized to speak, and AP Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll has sniffed morally: “Good reporting relies on more than government-approved sources.”


36 posted on 12/03/2006 9:36:24 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mo1; PhilDragoo

If newspapers don’t have an alternative, readers do. It’s called the Internet.

That’s why newspapers, if they don’t want to be dragged further into irrelevance and disrepute, have to tell The Associated Press they are dissatisfied with its product.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 9:38:00 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: onyx

Getting The News From The Enemy, Update IV

http://www.floppingaces.net/2006/11/30/getting-the-news-from-the-enemy-iv/


38 posted on 12/03/2006 9:42:53 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: baystaterebel

bookmark ping-a-ling , & THANKS baystaterebel

. . . [ a very busy Sunday , back to this later ]


39 posted on 12/03/2006 9:47:12 AM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: abb; Howlin

The AP, once a just-the-facts news delivery service, has lost its rudder. It has become a partisan, anti-American news agency that seeks to undercut a wartime president and American soldiers in the field.

It is providing fraudulent, shoddy goods. It doesn’t even recognize it has a problem.

This is the point at which, another big American industry learned, people start buying Japanese.

But as an American newspaper, if you want to provide your readers with affordable regional, national and international news, you have to deal with the AP. If newspapers don’t have an alternative, readers do. It’s called the Internet.


40 posted on 12/03/2006 9:51:25 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: avacado
No, noob, they're not. And there's no need to repeat.
41 posted on 12/03/2006 9:58:01 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: baystaterebel

The AP has journalistic standards. In particular they all use the Webster's New College Dictionary and that's official. So, their lies are spelled correctly.


42 posted on 12/03/2006 10:00:17 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: baystaterebel

Where is Orrin hatch? He was the wonderful useless Senator from my state who pushed the issue against Microsoft, because Word Perfect - a Utah company at the time, was threatened.

since then WP sold out to Novell, who in turn reduced the local work force, and sold their interest to Corell, who in turn sold off the workforce to 400 employees and took the company out of state.

Let's get some monopoly legislation here, Orrin.

SS


43 posted on 12/03/2006 11:03:56 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: pyx

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No, noob, they're not. And there's no need to repeat.
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Yes, they are.


44 posted on 12/03/2006 11:08:37 AM PST by avacado
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To: baystaterebel
Is AP's mystery source, Jamil Hussein, a stringer for Jazzy News?
45 posted on 12/03/2006 12:44:17 PM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: george76; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; bitt
The Santa Fe New Mexican has the same Leftist bias as AP. We dropped our subscription years and years ago after the umpteenth phone fight with their editorial page editor re why my letter to the editor was not published or published in redacted form.

Customers are indeed expressing displeasure--but those would be subscribers, not newspaper editors.

There's a difference between a newspaper editor and a maggot, but I can't remember it this second.

Oh, wait--there's not.

46 posted on 12/03/2006 2:05:32 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: baystaterebel

It's Official: Media Body Burning Story is Bogus (Shiite vs. Sunni)
http://newsbusters.org/ ^ | November 27, 2006 | Greg Sheffield

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1744813/posts
Posted on 11/27/2006 5:41:07 PM CST by lowbridge



It's Official: Media Body Burning Story is Bogus


47 posted on 12/03/2006 2:13:49 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: baystaterebel; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; ...





48 posted on 12/03/2006 2:37:01 PM PST by devolve ( .................always shop, invest, & hire wisely)
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To: devolve
PERFECT!


To: AP

NO!

Regards,
dc2k

49 posted on 12/03/2006 3:17:19 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: DustyMoment
Can't agree with you more! CANCEL YOUR NEWSPAPER SUBSCRIPTIONS! The coupons & crossword puzzles are not worth it. Look at the source for all the national/international news , it's: AP, NYT, WP, LAT, these are the sources for all the smaller newspapers.

This is how the grassroot rebellion can/will start.

50 posted on 12/03/2006 3:23:19 PM PST by Alissa
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