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Gen. Pinochet, 91, fighting for life (suffered heart attack, last rites given)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/3/06 | Eduardo Gallardo - ap

Posted on 12/03/2006 1:29:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: sangfroid
Bachelet is smart enough to know that if she tries anything like what Allende did (with her father's collusion), she won't last for even one term in office. She is therefore behaving herself (so far), proceding with extreme caution and adopting only modest socialist positions -- such as expansion of the national health care system and opposition to tax cuts. She and her socialist party favored Hugo Chavez for appointment to the UN Security Council but wisely backed off when it became clear that this did not sit well with Chileans. Her speeches are laden with all the usual leftist buzz words -- "diversity," "reparations" and the like. Has she ever expressed regret about Allende's attempt to impose soviet style communism on Chile? Nope.

I doubt General Pinochet is in any way amused by her ascension to power.

161 posted on 12/06/2006 12:53:32 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: sangfroid
"Yes, the restraint shown on those he only had tortured but not killed was truly admirable. And, I know he had all of his countrymen's interests primarily at heart. Not just his own personal lust for power. A true elightened despot. Furthermore, the freedom and prosperity he provided the citizens of Chile, during that time, must have been truly intoxicating."

I see you know nothing of the history of Chile during that time, of what Chile was facing when Allende made his move to communize those people and bring them into the soviet domain. The drunken Allende (yes, he was falling down drunk for much of his last year in power) brought Chile right to the brink of civil war, inviting Castro down there to harrangue the Chilean people from the National Stadium in Santiago and organize teams of marauding militia thugs. The 3 or 4 thousand who died during Pinochet's restoration of order would pale in comparison to the number who would have died in that war.

General Pinochet -- Hero of the Chilean People

General Pinochet and our Lying Media

Fidel, Pinochet and Me

    An article that appeared in the Wall Street Journal shortly after Pinochet's recent arrest summarizes what I discovered: "Salvador Allende reached the presidency of Chile in 1970 with only 36 percent of the vote, barely 40,000 votes ahead of the candidate of the right. In Mr. Allende's 1,000 days of rule, Chile degenerated into what the much-lionized former Chilean President Eduardo Frei Montalva (father of the current president) called a 'carnival of madness' . . . The Chilean Supreme Court, the Bar Association, and the leftist Medical Society, along with the Chamber of Deputies and provincial heads of the Christian Democrat Party, all warned that Allende was systematically trampling the law and constitution. By August 1973, more than a million Chileanshalf the work forcewere on strike, demanding that Allende go. Transport and industry were paralyzed. On Sept. 11, 1973, the armed forces acted to oust Allende, going into battle against his gunslingers. Six hours after the fighting erupted, Allende blew his head off in the presidential palace with an AK-47 given to him by Fidel Castro.

Chile con Commies

There is lots more information, in case you want to educate yourself on how and why Pinochet took and maintained control and what was at stake. Allende was an outlaw and his allies were equally criminal. Even the Supreme Court of Chile said so. Those Justices asked Pinochet to restore order. Did innocent people die during this time? Yes, they did, just as innocent people die in any conflict of this kind. But, like the left, all you can do is carry on disingenuously about all the "innocents" who were "tortured" and "killed" by that "evil dictator" -- as though though the great majority of those killed weren't the bad guys.

162 posted on 12/06/2006 2:25:49 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: sangfroid

They would welcome a strong man leading a strong police force and army.

A strongman will bring order to the country, and that is also the aim of the United States Army. A strongman will allow us to withdraw from this thankless nation building task.


163 posted on 12/06/2006 12:42:17 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: Bon mots

Good to see some objective post on Pinochet subject. Some posters here should be sent to North Korea for at least half of century to understand values of Pinochet success. If not him wipe out commie scumbags then they would wipe out him and his supporters. Sad but true.


164 posted on 12/06/2006 1:36:10 PM PST by Lukasz
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To: Bonaparte
I doubt General Pinochet is in any way amused by her ascension to power.

I'll bet he isn't. All of that effort that went into torturing and killing to prove his point and his beloved people turn around and democratically elect a Socialist. Clearly, Democracy isn't a system that works for him.

165 posted on 12/06/2006 11:58:05 PM PST by sangfroid
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To: Bonaparte
Did innocent people die during this time? Yes, they did, just as innocent people die in any conflict of this kind. But, like the left, all you can do is carry on disingenuously about all the "innocents" who were "tortured" and "killed" by that "evil dictator" -- as though though the great majority of those killed weren't the bad guys.

Now that I have been so thoroughly and unbiasedly "educated" on the history of the political situation of Chile in 1973, I think I see what you are saying. General Pinochet "bravely" created a fascist dictatorship by force in order to save the country from "moving" to a communist dictatorship. Got it.

Anyway, enough history for now. Let's look to the future.

1) That senile old bedlamite will dead before his next birthday.
2) Even if he manages to a weasel a couple of extra months of life in an already pitiful existence, he will spent that as a complete and total pariah to the civilized world.
3) An communist educated socialist now runs his country.

So, he will soon be free to carry on his "glorious battle" against the "bad guys" who he had killed in the unrelenting fires of Hell.

I hope it was all worth it for him.

166 posted on 12/07/2006 10:14:43 AM PST by sangfroid
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To: Axlrose
They would welcome a strong man leading a strong police force and army.

A strongman will bring order to the country, and that is also the aim of the United States Army. A strongman will allow us to withdraw from this thankless nation building task.

I can see it now...

FREE SADDAM! FREE SADDAM! IRAQ NEEDS A STRONGMAN!
(I don't know how to type that in Arabic)

However, I'm sure they could find some other lunatic currently in a military prison awaiting charges of "crimes against humanity" who would take the job. There tons of those guys around. And, It's not like it hasn't been tried before.

He may be a b@st@rd.  But, he's our b@st@rd

He may be a b@st@rd.  But, he's our b@st@rd

167 posted on 12/07/2006 10:55:53 AM PST by sangfroid
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To: sangfroid

Pinochet at 13;
Pol Pot at 22?

That shows you how well the MSM can brainwash some people.

Pinochet uses the "Jack Bauer Playbook" and a bit more to save his country;
Pol Pot just about destroyed his for his own self-aggrandizement.

And people think Pinochet is worse?


168 posted on 12/10/2006 9:22:39 PM PST by VOA
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And people think Pinochet is worse?

However, Castro's at #19 and Saddam's at #9! IN YOUR FACE POL POT!!

169 posted on 12/10/2006 11:07:38 PM PST by sangfroid
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Mandela?

I wish someone would pull a Pinochet on his old worthless commie ass.

170 posted on 12/11/2006 8:51:39 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Non-Sequitur

best reply on this thread.


171 posted on 12/11/2006 9:04:13 PM PST by rahbert
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