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Congress Open to Passing Bill on Immigration (Citizenship for 20 million illegals!)
The Washington Times ^ | December 4, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 12/04/2006 6:58:29 AM PST by kellynla

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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Hello!!!

They've gone elsewhere."

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Yup, that's how it works, you funnel them to where you have the manpower to apprehend them. Are you really this thick?


641 posted on 12/07/2006 10:57:12 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

Good luck with your fence.


642 posted on 12/07/2006 11:11:23 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I know you're an American in law. I questioned if you're American in your heart. That is not rude; that is evaluation.

It is BECAUSE I am an American that I get to openly disagree on ideas.

Ah, Louis, I never challenged your right to openly express ideas. Why would I? I do so, too. You seem to be miffed because I evaluate your expression of ideas as contrary to the good of America. Do you wish to impede my right to openly express ideas?

My evaluation is that you, being for open to packing the country with those who have destroyed their own country, are full of error. Don't play coy with me, or try to lead me to a strawman. I've read many of your posts on various threads.

You simply don't like me calling you on it. You debate like a liberal, which follows because you advocate liberal ideas.

You're less than an American when YOU question whether others are simply because they don't fit your mold of an American. Fidel Castro used the same verbiage when talking about those who disagreed with his "revolution".

But, Louis, it is you with the revolution. And I certainly disagree with it. And it is you that are calling names and being rude while it is I that question it.

What is it exactly that I want that does that?

A "guest worker" "program". What it will do is increase the number of those who have allowed their country to be destroyed by corruption by cowardice and inaction to be in this country and vote.

It will also increase the corruption of the commercial agencies that implement the "guest worker" "program" and increase the illegal immigration to avoid that corruption, the new illegals being able to blend in with the "guest workers", and illegal immigration will increase because others will want to be here for the next amnesty. They will have seen what has happened and will believe it will happen again, This is designed to lead, and will lead, to the erasing of the southern border and regionalization.

Which many factions and groups, in power, on both sides, have said in plain language that is what they want. They are will to be patient, therefore I must not be.

Just my private opinion, Louis, but I think you know this and agree with it. This is why I ask if you are American in your heart, which, by the way, you have not answered; you keep throwing strawmen at me.

Did it really?

Yes, it did. There have been very good, factual articles here lately that detail why and how. If you like you may find some keywords that will pull them up. Basically, those democrats that were elected were greatly anti-illegal immigration, and numerous anti-illegal immigration initiatives carried by popular vote.

Louis, the vast majority of the indigenous American people want the borders controlled and illegals in the country phased out. You know this. Do you just think they're stupid, you know so much better, and therefore will frustrate them with your greater knowledge of their general good?

No, I don't think so, Louis. I think you have a personal stake in this dog and pony show. I don't think you are this stupid.

643 posted on 12/08/2006 2:06:59 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To quote another FReeper...you can think that the moon is made out of cheese, but that don't make it so.

Good luck to you.


644 posted on 12/08/2006 2:15:20 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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