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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Monday Dec 4th, 2006
Rush Limbaugh | 12-04-2006

Posted on 12/04/2006 8:24:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747605/posts

Communication Professor Examines Media Bias in President's Speeches Virginia Tech News ^ | 11/30/06 | Jean Elliott

Posted on 12/02/2006 5:28:58 PM CST by LS

BLACKSBURG, VA., November 30, 2006 -- Jim A. Kuypers, assistant professor of communication in the College of Liberal Arts and Human Sciences at Virginia Tech, reveals a disturbing world of media bias in his new book Bush's War: Media Bias and Justifications for War in a Terrorist Age (Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, Inc. 2006).

Convincingly and without resorting to partisan politics, Kuypers strongly illustrates in eight chapters “how the press failed America in its coverage on the War on Terror.” In each comparison, Kuypers “detected massive bias on the part of the press.” In fact, Kuypers calls the mainstream news media an “anti-democratic institution” in the conclusion.

“What has essentially happened since 9/11 has been that Bush has repeated the same themes, and framed those themes the same whenever discussing the War on Terror,” said Kuypers, who specializes in political communication and rhetoric. “Immediately following 9/11, the mainstream news media (represented by CBS, ABC, NBC, USA Today, New York Times, and Washington Post) did echo Bush, but within eight weeks it began to intentionally ignore certain information the president was sharing, and instead reframed the president's themes or intentionally introduced new material to shift the focus.”

This goes beyond reporting alternate points of view. “In short,” Kupyers explained, “if someone were relying only on the mainstream media for information, they would have no idea what the president actually said. It was as if the press were reporting on a different speech.”

The book is essentially a “comparative framing analysis.” Overall, Kuypers examined themes about 9-11 and the War on Terror that the President used, and compared them to the themes that the press used when reporting on what the president said.

“Framing is a process whereby communicators, consciously or unconsciously, act to construct a point of view that encourages the facts of a given situation to be interpreted by others in a particular manner,” notes Kuypers.

At the heart of each chapter are these questions: What did President Bush talk about, and how did he want us to think about it? What did the mainstream news media talk about following president Bush’s speeches, and how did they want us to think about it?

According to Arkansas State University’s Dennis W. White, a retired lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army, "This is a time of maximum danger for our country—a time of crisis. The American people historically turn to the President during these times for explanation, for comfort, and for exhortation to purpose. Yet, the President does not speak directly to the people. His speech is mediated; he speaks through the media, members of the media comment on presidential speech, and others comment on the comment. Jim Kuypers is the best in the business at explaining presidential crisis communication and its relationship to the media.”

"This is a skilled and thoughtful work of scholarship, well worth a careful reading,” said Stephen D. Cooper of Marshall University. “Kuypers's book is provocative in the best sense of the word: It can stimulate fresh thinking about presidential rhetoric and press reporting of it—which Kuypers shows can be two very different things.”

Kuypers, of Christiansburg, Va., received his Ph.D from Louisiana State University and both his bachelor’s degree and master’s degree from Florida State. He joined Virginia Tech's Department of Communication last year after having taught political communication for tens years at Dartmouth College


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To: NonValueAdded

Remove Chafee from the party and the committee. That removes the block. Doesn't it?


151 posted on 12/04/2006 9:45:29 AM PST by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el ingles)
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To: rodguy911

I have to agree with you about 24 being the best show. I used to lean towards the Sopranos but son and I just did all of last year for the Sopranos and it was very disappointing.


152 posted on 12/04/2006 9:45:57 AM PST by AGP (Support The Veterans)
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To: rodguy911
"24" Season 6:

January 14 & 15, 2007; 8pm Eastern/7pm Central; 4 hours

153 posted on 12/04/2006 9:45:59 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: American Quilter
Stop insulting Margaret Hamilton!

lol.......... ok.

154 posted on 12/04/2006 9:46:35 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: beyond the sea
LOL yourself, and watch the snide comments about Rush! Most people are on this thread because we like what he says and stands for!

The Old Media may have won one for the rats(as 60 of their candidates posed as conservative blue dogs) but they had to lie their asses off for 6 years to get the job done. "Bush lied, bush stole the elections, scooter libby, Tom Delay, etc etc.

We will do a better job next time you can be sure,but don't under estimate what we do here, it's a mistake.

155 posted on 12/04/2006 9:46:38 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: advertising guy
I've never seen on minute of one episode of 24 yet.

Then you have a big treat in store!

156 posted on 12/04/2006 9:46:45 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: mewzilla

157 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:00 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: American Quilter

Hi AQ! How ya doing?


158 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:09 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: advertising guy

"Mo Dowd...just a life support system for a dumbass"

You mean pu$$y? If she didn't have one, there would be a bounty on her!


159 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:40 AM PST by lawdude (The dems see Wal-Mart as a bigger threat to the US than muslim terrorists)
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To: advertising guy
YOU are gonna love it.
160 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:55 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Hi, StoneWall.


161 posted on 12/04/2006 9:47:56 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: American Quilter

162 posted on 12/04/2006 9:48:24 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: LibertyLee
PMS is a deadly male-killing form of explosive akin to the mixing of hydrazine with tetroxide...

If only it could be bottled for warfare.

163 posted on 12/04/2006 9:48:56 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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To: MaestroLC
January 14 & 15, 2007; 8pm Eastern/7pm Central; 4 hours

Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I can't think of a better way to beat the January blahs.

164 posted on 12/04/2006 9:49:42 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: AGP
Yeah I know what you mean, Sopranos is still a good show it's just not "24"
165 posted on 12/04/2006 9:49:42 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MaestroLC

I can't wait!!


166 posted on 12/04/2006 9:50:04 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: FreePugs

167 posted on 12/04/2006 9:50:18 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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To: angcat

Fine, angcat, and yourself? Have a nice weekend?


168 posted on 12/04/2006 9:50:27 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

KPRC 950am in Houston just announced they are dropping Rush, and he is going to another station. ANyone got the scoop on this?


169 posted on 12/04/2006 9:50:31 AM PST by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - For a good time visit www.laurelbaptisttemple.org)
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To: rodguy911

Why waste your time writing to trolls?

Life's too short.


170 posted on 12/04/2006 9:51:30 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Jesus is the reason for the season!)
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To: beyond the sea; LibertyLee
>> I don't see Felix as a particularly Jewish name...OOOOOOK...
>Felix Unger....... 'The Odd Couple'.......... hmmm?


None of my business, but...
Felix is Latin for fortunate or lucky: felix - felicis.
Felix is the male name.
Felicity is the female name.
Totally "Romantic" European in origin.
171 posted on 12/04/2006 9:51:48 AM PST by ct_libertarian (We inbellyfeel Democrat duckspeak doubleplusgood! AmSoc! AmSoc! Doubleplusgood!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh, cinnamon rolls! How did you know I love those? And I almost never let myself eat one, but today I'm making an exception.


172 posted on 12/04/2006 9:51:52 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
If only it could be bottled for warfare.

Beats all IEDS now in production.

173 posted on 12/04/2006 9:51:56 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Work N Lurk Mode ON.
174 posted on 12/04/2006 9:52:05 AM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Good point!


175 posted on 12/04/2006 9:52:31 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Hello Stonewall! Just popped in to say howdy. Pretty depressing with Rumsfeld gone and Bolton going.

The country sure did screw the pooch this election.


176 posted on 12/04/2006 9:53:04 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: American Quilter

I thought it was time for a change if food. LOL.


177 posted on 12/04/2006 9:53:32 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: American Quilter

I thought it was time for a change in food. LOL.


178 posted on 12/04/2006 9:53:36 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: MaestroLC; navynucmom
24" Season 6: January 14 & 15, 2007; 8pm Eastern/7pm Central; 4 hours

Navynucmom needs this info too...

179 posted on 12/04/2006 9:53:43 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: A.Hun

Yup


180 posted on 12/04/2006 9:53:58 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (GO ARMY BEAT NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: All

Obama Being Groomed for VP

 

Clintón/Obama '08

 
 

Age Before Beauty

 

181 posted on 12/04/2006 9:54:18 AM PST by ct_libertarian (We inbellyfeel Democrat duckspeak doubleplusgood! AmSoc! AmSoc! Doubleplusgood!)
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To: A.Hun

It's as if W has already surrendered. Very depressing indeed.


182 posted on 12/04/2006 9:54:23 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: All

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=25407


183 posted on 12/04/2006 9:54:35 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: A.Hun; All
This guy on right now has it down, he has figured out what Hillary is up to.They are grooming Obama for VP.That way he can take all the hard questions for the next two years so Hillary gets another pass.
184 posted on 12/04/2006 9:54:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: ct_libertarian
Felix was the name of a "wonderful, wonderful cat...

185 posted on 12/04/2006 9:55:05 AM PST by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - For a good time visit www.laurelbaptisttemple.org)
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To: All

Does anyone have a website or list of where you can look up MOSQUES in your area?


186 posted on 12/04/2006 9:55:35 AM PST by Fawn (NEVER GO TO 'APPLIANCE KING' IN BOYNTON BEACH, FLORIDA--THEY SCAM YOU!!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
W has not surrendered. The Senate would never confirm Bolton. W is very hurt that Bolton is going.
187 posted on 12/04/2006 9:56:01 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Nebraska?


188 posted on 12/04/2006 9:56:38 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: ct_libertarian; All
There are lots of reasons for this, biggest of all is that Hillary polls 43-45% at best. She desperately needs a few more points to win. It's very hard to get that from a VP, Hussin obama may be her only chance.
189 posted on 12/04/2006 9:56:41 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: American Quilter
Yes I did. My three years old had to get some blood tests that was a nightmare. She was a trooper. She is getting her tonsils out on the 12th of this month.
190 posted on 12/04/2006 9:56:51 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: rodguy911
We will do a better job next time you can be sure,but don't under estimate what we do here, it's a mistake.

Don't overestimate what is done here either, that is an even bigger mistake.

Let's get this straight, FR is the best site that I have ever seen in this country, but so many here do not understand that the old media still rules.............. because they lie larger and more often than ever.... and (more importantly) the general population is politically ignorant and disinterested.

We better do a much better job next time, because there are bad days ahead.

191 posted on 12/04/2006 9:57:17 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Fawn
YOU have to look under restrooms or terrorists hideouts,!
192 posted on 12/04/2006 9:57:31 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: A.Hun

Hi Hun.


193 posted on 12/04/2006 9:57:57 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Sensei Ern; All
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2006/12/03/why_it_will_be_president_obama_in_2009

Why it will be 'President Obama' in 2009

By Kevin McCullough | Sunday, December 3, 2006

Barring several series of near seizure-like corrections, Barack Obama will take the Presidential oath of office in January of 2009. It will be a cold January morning, his beautiful wife and daughters will be by his side and they will shiver as he places his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the Constitution of the United States. His presidency that will follow, if reflective of anything at all of his legislative record, will then seek to dismantle that same Constitution.

I have a long track record of predictions on Obama, and all of them have come true. I have no reason to believe that this one will conclude any differently.

U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) speaks at the groundbreaking ceremony for the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial on the National Mall in Washington, November 13, 2006. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst (UNITED STATES)

There are reasons that this event is destined to take place, and given the option of knowing them but remaining silent, or mentioning them in the hope that the scene I've just mentioned never comes to path - I choose the latter. If any of these were to take significant turns, the formula might collapse. This is given the fact that the nation will be in a holding pattern for the next two years with absolute gridlock on pretty much everything (with the possible exception of amnesty for illegal aliens.)

RAGING LIBERALS - In 2006 the message of the voters was not Ned Lamont. Rather it was the "Crash Dummy Class of '06." Democrats who looked, and tried to talk like people of faith - at least long enough to get elected. George Soros, the Daily Kos, Al Gore, Susan Sarandon, and not to be forgotten Howard Dean, have made their go at it. They failed. But since their party won the midterms - they believe they've been justified. Their anti-American rhetoric will increase. They will express dissatisfaction with Pelosi/Reid and demand an increased presence in the 2008 picture. The democratic primary voter will reject this increased extremism and look for a "consensus builder." They will long for someone who is "above the frey." Obama will fit that profile and will bring "together" the left and right in his own party. He will do it with a sense of style, smoothness, and humor - a stark contrast to Hillary, Gore, Kerry, et al.

DIGUSTED CONSERVATIVES - Still reeling from the "ginormous" let down of the Senate under Bill Frist, and the second term Presidency of George W. Bush, normally energized conservatives will look to a field that offers a pro-choice/pro-gay mayor from New York, a Mormon from Massachusetts - who was pro-choice/pro-gay but genuinely seems now not to be - but may have hired illegal aliens, blah blah blah, or John McCain (whose single biggest problem is that he IS John McCain.) Normally eager "tax-cutting, government shrinking, let's defend our nation, pro-life, pro-family" voters, organizations, and leaders will be assaulted with speeches on Romney's health care reform, or Giuliani’s crime initiatives, or John McCain. Whoever emerges, will have not one tenth the oratory skills of Obama and they will come off looking as tired, dry, and stale as day-old toast.

EXHAUSTED MODERATES - They are tired of the stale toast, and will be looking for anything exciting. Mind you, moderates by definition don't truly stand for anything so it doesn't really matter what the candidate stands for. These people voted for Kennedy, Reagan, and Clinton all based on one thing, "how does he make me feel?" Realizing this Obama will be a lightening rod on the campaign trail. He will draw record crowds for every appearance he makes (something he's already begun to do.) Money will flow in as a result. Obama's strategy of talking about cooperation, sounding bipartisan, and seeming to curtly rebuke both sides of the aisle will seem to validate his "ability" to "stay above the frey."

ENERGIZED BLACKS - The true voice for alternatives for black voters will not be heard because the voices of great men like Bishop Harry Jackson will not yet have become distinct enough within American media, and because the media, in ignoring the Bishop, will instead return again and again to the altar of Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson. Instead, as the media is already doing, there will be near non-stop fawning over the Senator from Illinois as he flashes the big smile. Black voters, who in the majority vote for party and not conviction anyway, will see Obama as the personality that no one since Dr. King has been able to live up too. Obama will be invited to each and every significant black pulpit in America. He will rail with poetry, sing with soul, rhyme when appropriate, and never will the IRS even think of threatening even one of these houses of worship for illegal political action.

GULLIBLE EVANGELICALS - The most reliable base of voters for the Republican Party since the days of President Reagan have been the social conservatives. Church-going born-again Christians who believe in God, the importance of His word, and the significance of living out their faith in an open and compassionate way every single day have been the backbone of the GOP. This past Friday Rick Warren, through the implied endorsement of allowing Obama to speak at one of the largest evangelical churches in America gave Obama the opportunity to split evangelicals who will be misled by Obama's words instead of opening their eyes to his actions. In my gentle admonition to Rick Warren over the past couple of weeks I reiterated time and again that it was this opportunity being extended to Obama that would be manipulated by both the press , and Obama himself to pose as a "person of faith." Warren's stubborn action of insisting upon having Obama speak at Saddleback Church in southern California has had that exact effect .

194 posted on 12/04/2006 9:58:08 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: beyond the sea; rodguy911


More info at the following link:

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=36
195 posted on 12/04/2006 9:58:35 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: MaestroLC

Rush just read form one of our posts here,again.


196 posted on 12/04/2006 9:59:39 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: mewzilla

Rush has been lurking in here (:


197 posted on 12/04/2006 9:59:41 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (GO ARMY BEAT NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; A.Hun
It's as if W has already surrendered. Very depressing indeed.

I'm almost convinced that the strategery is for W and Cheney to resign in January.
Hand the entire ball of wax to the 'Rats so they can bollox it so badly that there will no longer be any doubt about them.
Plus it will be a slap in the face to the Clintóns and the Clintónistas to have Miss America Stretch Pelosi as the first woman president and not Hillita.
It's a harsh stratagery, but I'd find it hard to disagree with at this point.
Let the 'Rats get burned by the power that they want so badly.
198 posted on 12/04/2006 9:59:56 AM PST by ct_libertarian (We inbellyfeel Democrat duckspeak doubleplusgood! AmSoc! AmSoc! Doubleplusgood!)
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To: MaestroLC
No way it will not happen. If so this country is finished.
199 posted on 12/04/2006 10:00:27 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I understand that the Senate would never approve Bolton, but George Mitchell? Why doesn't he appoint Jimmy Carter and be done with it?


200 posted on 12/04/2006 10:00:34 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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