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Ga. senator's wife turns self in
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | December 5, 2006 | DANIEL YEE

Posted on 12/05/2006 6:37:20 AM PST by King of Florida

ATLANTA - The Colombia-born wife of a Georgia state senator, who had been in hiding as federal immigration officials try to deport her, turned herself in Tuesday to face an order to remove her from the country.

Sascha Herrera, 28, arrived at the Martin Luther King Federal Building shortly before 8 a.m. to face authorities in the Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office.

"I'm very nervous right now," Herrera said. "I think I'm doing the right thing. I hope my name and my husband's name is clean."

Her husband, State Sen. Curt Thompson said, "The main goal is to make sure after the interview that they will allow Sascha to go home."

She had been in hiding since Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers arrived at her home Nov. 28 with an order to remove her from the U.S. She was not home at the time.

Her attorney, Charles Kuck, claims she was duped by a man handling her immigration requests and that she never received the immigration notices that triggered her deportation order.

Kuck filed a petition Monday to stay her deportation order and reopen her case, arguing that a man filed an asylum petition on her behalf without her knowledge and before her husband sponsored her green card application based on their April marriage.

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To: subterfuge
Pelosi will probably select her to head a committee on illegal immigration.
101 posted on 12/05/2006 7:36:15 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
She should go through all the legal hoops no matter who she's married to.

My Japanese daughter-in-law was here legally as a university student until she graduated, at which time she honored her visa and went home. My son followed her, married her, and they went through all the legal steps for him to live in Japan while they went through all the legal steps for her to return to the US with him. They spent thousands of dollars for applications and attorney fees, several trips for interviews with rude Mexican INS employees, filled out pages and pages of legal paper work, and everything else required for her to be in the US legally. I have no sympathy what so ever for anyone who breaks our immigration laws, or any other laws. So you can take your bleeding heart and stuff it.

Oh, I can stuff it, can I? Allow me to retort and school you in the process.

Full-disclosure: I am married to a Colombian woman, hence my interest in this story. She was here on a non-immigrant visa when we became engaged. We eventually married here -- after she had come and gone to Colombia a couple of times in the process. (Remember this part for when I really school you later, Mrs. Stuff-It-Yourself.)

After our marriage, she returned to Colombia and I applied for her residency visa. That process took six months from the day I mailed the application to the regional USCIS service center to the day she was granted her visa in Colombia.

However, if she had not gone back and forth between Colombia and the U.S. after we were engaged and had just stayed here instead, she "simply" could have applied for adjustment of status (AOS) based upon our marriage and having remained in the country since we met and became engaged.

This is precisely what happened with the senator and his wife here -- they met while she was here and then married. Thus, she never entered the country with the intent of getting married -- which is what my wife would have been doing on her last return trip from Colombia.

Your daughter-in-law could have married your son here and stayed -- it's done all of the time, and it's completely legal, as long as she never entered the country with the intent of marrying him. That's what she should have done.

Don't blame me or the senator's wife because your son was given shabby advice. Feeling stuffed?

102 posted on 12/05/2006 7:36:29 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: subterfuge
Of course this woman should be deported. Why should she get special privileges? She deliberately flaunted our laws by going into hiding.
103 posted on 12/05/2006 7:40:41 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: King of Florida

Thanks for posting a few facts....


104 posted on 12/05/2006 7:41:27 AM PST by r9etb
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To: King of Florida

I didn't see a party affiliation, so the Senator must be a "D".


105 posted on 12/05/2006 7:42:16 AM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: From One - Many
I have no sympathy for either of them. They broke the law. My son went through the process with his wife. My son married a lady from Australia. Everything was done legally. For this case, the law was violated. Please don't try to blame the breaking of the law on the notary. Blaming the notary is just plain silly, and suspect at best.

Oh, pish-tush, you have no idea what you're talking about. As I mentioned above, if you meet someone from a foreign country here and marry them, that person is entitled to remain here and apply for adjustment of status. It's only if you met them before they entered the country that they have to go back and then go through the paperwork.

106 posted on 12/05/2006 7:42:27 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Dark Skies

Looks like she she's smuggling something into the country. 2 things, actually.


107 posted on 12/05/2006 7:43:39 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: doc30
In this case USCIS wanted to deport her, but still needed a judge's order.

Who issued the order to remove her frome the country? Also If you can, please tell me which laws, as a legal citizen, I am allowed to ignore. One last question, if Sascha Herrera is so intent on becoming a U.S. citizen, why doesn't she feel the need to assimilate and take her husbands last name? Something like Sascha Thompson or Sascha Herrera-Thompson? I'll bet she never leaves Senator out when speaking of her husband!

...Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers arrived at her home Nov. 28 with an order to remove her from the U.S. ...

The deportation order stems from Herrera's repeated failure to appear before a judge on the asylum application...

108 posted on 12/05/2006 7:43:51 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: King of Florida
Previous thread. I'm not sure this lady's kept her stories straight.

Ga. Senator's Wife Fights Deportation

109 posted on 12/05/2006 7:44:26 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: toddlintown

Strip search is called for in this case!


110 posted on 12/05/2006 7:44:26 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies
Thant's not her. This is the caption for that pic.

Curt Thompson-Georgia State Senator , Jennifer Martin-GCI Group

This is his wife:

I think you should ask the mods to pull that post.

111 posted on 12/05/2006 7:44:26 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Dark Skies

if that's her, she stays. He on the other hand can be sent to Timbuktu.


112 posted on 12/05/2006 7:44:49 AM PST by isom35
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To: King of Florida

So why didn't she follow the law?


113 posted on 12/05/2006 7:44:50 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Dark Skies

Upon further review, the woman stays!!!


114 posted on 12/05/2006 7:46:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: raybbr
As I said upthread, those pics are of the same woman (I think). Look at both of them closely. In one pic the woman is made up, has contacts in, is freshly-coifed, and is smiling. In the other, she is tired and not made-up or freshly shampooed.

But both have the same lips, facial structure, nose, and hairline.

115 posted on 12/05/2006 7:47:45 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: 1rudeboy; subterfuge; Constitution Day; Redmen4ever; swain_forkbeard; Diddle E. Squat; ...
That pic is not his wife.

See this post for the pic. She actually looks like a typical feminist/democrat "womyn".

116 posted on 12/05/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Dark Skies
Go to the site that carries that pic. It has a caption. He probably likes that look.

Here is the link with the caption.

117 posted on 12/05/2006 7:49:05 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Clifford The Big Red Dog

"...The law is the law. No one's above it, not even a state senator's wife..."

The klintons, Swimmer, Jon Scarry, among others would care to differ with your statement. :-)


118 posted on 12/05/2006 7:51:04 AM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: King of Florida
Her attorney, Charles Kuck, claims she was duped by a man handling her immigration requests and that she never received the immigration notices that triggered her deportation order.

I've heard of this before. There's a local tempest in a teapot - roughly the same situation and the illegal is claiming the same thing.

It strikes me as very convenient. Or, is it really common? Can anyone comment?

119 posted on 12/05/2006 7:51:41 AM PST by wbill
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To: Dark Skies
Sen. Thompson is clearly a man of great compassion in his outreach to the needy of Latin America.

And I think he's lost most his female voters.

120 posted on 12/05/2006 7:53:25 AM PST by Tribune7
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Kick this illegal _itch out of the country.


121 posted on 12/05/2006 7:53:47 AM PST by Italia222
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To: From One - Many
So why didn't she follow the law?

She did -- she got married and applied for adjustment of status, which is what you're supposed to do. She just didn't have any idea that a deportation order had been issued as a result of the asylum application filed by the notario.

122 posted on 12/05/2006 7:54:07 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: txroadhawg

No. I have a friend who married a Chinese lady and while she has her green card, she still has to take the test to become a citizen.


123 posted on 12/05/2006 7:55:01 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: King of Florida
Don't blame me or the senator's wife because your son was given shabby advice. Feeling stuffed?

Nope, not feeling "stuffed". My son was not given shabby advice. They didn't marry here because they weren't ready to marry. As I said, she honored her student visa and went home, she also honored her father's request by going home. After my son went to Japan to meet her family, get a job and become legal there, her father gave his consent for them to marry and her to live in the US. Honor (as well as the law)is very important to that culture, apparently more than to many other cultures. Then they began working the legal route for her to come back here as his wife. Your "schooling" falls short on creating any sympathy here. And I still say any bleeding heart can stuff it.
124 posted on 12/05/2006 7:55:26 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: raybbr

You're certainly right.


125 posted on 12/05/2006 7:56:08 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Italia222
Kick this illegal _itch out of the country.

She did not enter the country illegally. And xenophobia is not an appealing trait.

126 posted on 12/05/2006 7:56:34 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Dark Skies
Here is another pic of Jennifer Martin.

Elizabeth Campell (left; Georgia Tech), Angela Frechette (Text100) and Jennifer Martin (GCI) also attended the summit.

Notice the same attributes?

127 posted on 12/05/2006 7:56:40 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: King of Florida
Thus, she never entered the country with the intent of getting married -- which is what my wife would have been doing on her last return trip from Colombia.

You're right. She fraudulently entered on a tourist visa as shown by her application for a student visa. Then the mysterious "notario" decides to file an application for asylum on her behalf.

Um, sure. Next you know there will be some polonium or elbonium found to have wiped her memory. It will then be determined she was kidnapped by FARC dwarfs.

128 posted on 12/05/2006 7:56:47 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: King of Florida

Maybe we should give her a car and a beer and let her drive 90+ mph in Northern Virginia.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1748267/posts


129 posted on 12/05/2006 7:58:44 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: From One - Many
I have no sympathy for either of them. They broke the law.

An American citizen marries a woman who is here with a legal student visa. Exactly what law have they broken???
130 posted on 12/05/2006 8:00:08 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: txroadhawg

No. Conditional Permament Resident status upon completion of processing, which could be hindered if she was here illegally when they got married.


131 posted on 12/05/2006 8:00:19 AM PST by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: King of Florida; YellowRoseofTx

"Don't blame me or the senator's wife because your son was given shabby advice. Feeling stuffed?"

And it seems we all got bad advice, because the easiest thing to do is send the future spouse back to his/her home country and apply for a fiancee visa, which (used to) take 60 days as opposed to 6 months separation from your spouse (in my own case).


132 posted on 12/05/2006 8:01:16 AM PST by angkor
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Bottom line: your daughter-in-law did not have to go home if she had married your son here. That was their problem if they were not ready. The senator and his wife clearly were ready. And they abided by the law in applying for AOS after the marriage. You don't like it, you can "stuff" your sense of "honor" somewhere.


133 posted on 12/05/2006 8:01:26 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: raybbr

Boy, do I! And what attributes they are!


134 posted on 12/05/2006 8:01:28 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies

Nice pair.


135 posted on 12/05/2006 8:02:08 AM PST by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: Italia222

Yes, what a bad example Senator Thompson and his wife set by not only breaking laws but wanting to be above the law. Being an elected officials, it is doubly troubling.


136 posted on 12/05/2006 8:02:14 AM PST by Jane Austen
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To: King of Florida
There is something very wrong with the picture you are attempting to paint, but don't let me stop you from painting that picture. I'm certain there were laws broken, otherwise this event would not be receiving this type of uproar. Is the OBL now wanting to use any excuse to justify someone or others breaking the law? A judge and law enforcement are not normally involved if the law was upheld. But as I said please continue to paint the picture for someone who has seen the system up close and personal and whose son has been through the process, maybe my daughter-in-law isn't legal....LOL /s
137 posted on 12/05/2006 8:03:06 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: subterfuge

"I have no respect for people who HIDE from the law!"
Oh put a sock in it. People are forced to hide from screwed up laws because of legalistic people like you.
You are the exact kind of conservative that would most likely have a problem with Jews hiding from the "law" before and during WWII.
Your philosophy is the very same thing conservatives hate: the worship of an all powerful government.
If ICE and FBI would spend more time tracking real criminals we would all be better off, instead of them wasting our tax money harassing people who just want to live in this country.
And don't tell me that the "Columbus didn't have to get a visa" argument is not valid. Your ancestors came to this land and raped it and took it away from the people who were here before, and you have a problem with someone who just wants to live here and doesn't want to wait for 3 years before the government gets back to them with a letter stating that they lost their application or that they can't come legally because of some lame reason.


138 posted on 12/05/2006 8:03:18 AM PST by greenthumbedislndr
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To: Jane Austen

"She deliberately flaunted our laws by going into hiding."

She was looking for competent legal advice.

You need to read some of the K1 visa newsgroups, where fiancess and spouses are tossed out on their ear by ICE with virtually no legal oversight, often due to naivete and ignorance of our complex immigration laws.


139 posted on 12/05/2006 8:04:04 AM PST by angkor
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To: HEY4QDEMS

see 137


140 posted on 12/05/2006 8:04:25 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Dark Skies

That's not here, it is Jennifer Martin-GCI Group.


141 posted on 12/05/2006 8:04:26 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: VeniVidiVici
You're right. She fraudulently entered on a tourist visa as shown by her application for a student visa. Then the mysterious "notario" decides to file an application for asylum on her behalf.

Both the tourist and student visas are non-immigrant visas. Applying for one non-immigrant visa after having entered on another is not immigration fraud because there is no intent to remain here permanently. That is the key -- whether they enter with the intention of remaining here permanently (e.g., by marrying someone in particular, etc.).

142 posted on 12/05/2006 8:04:55 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: greenthumbedislndr
Your philosophy is the very same thing conservatives hate: the worship of an all powerful government.

Help me out here as I have a bet with my wife. You're agasint the WOD, right?

143 posted on 12/05/2006 8:06:50 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
My son was not given shabby advice.

If your son and his wife spent thousands of dollars on lawyers and fees, hundreds of pages of paperwork etc.. then I'm sorry to say your son received did infact receive shabby advice.
144 posted on 12/05/2006 8:06:53 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: ConservaTexan

"The deportation order stems from Herrera's repeated failure to appear before a judge on the asylum application..."

The one she claimns she never received.

I'm gonna' give her the benefit of the doubt. Why go to the trouble of a making a phoney application with a phoney notario using a fake address, and then not appear for the hearings.

That makes no sense whatsoever.


145 posted on 12/05/2006 8:07:17 AM PST by angkor
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To: stinkerpot65

Yep.


146 posted on 12/05/2006 8:08:55 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: King of Florida

There was a similar case in Iowa. The lawyer who was suppose to be doing the legal work stuffed the papers in a drawer, did nothing, and charged them for his services.

Senator Chuck Grassley's staff probably has quite a box full of information on the sleezy attorney. They might be of some help in sorting this out.

I have a great deal of sympathy for those who tried to do the right thing but were hung out to dry by inept lawyers who failed to carry out the assignments they are paid to do.


147 posted on 12/05/2006 8:12:31 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: indcons

Good morning.

I feel OK, now. I came down with a cold last week and the symptoms weren't so bad but I was totally exhausted; like all the energy had been sucked right out of me. Can't believe it's the 5th of Dec. already. I feel like I'm just coming back to life.


148 posted on 12/05/2006 8:15:07 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: From One - Many
I'm certain there were laws broken

Well, it wasn't the wife who broke them. As the judge himself indicated at the hearing this morning, it was the notario who should be prosecuted. And for the umpteenth time, remaining here after marriage and applying for AOS is not a violation of the law, as long as you didn't enter the country with the intent of entering into that marriage (and remaining here permanently).

I have been far more "up close and personal" than you -- I have personally been through this process, filing all of the paperwork myself -- I didn't witness it through a relative.

149 posted on 12/05/2006 8:15:13 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

If you're talking about war on drugs, Well, actually I'm not. I think it has been taken to extremes, but I live in in an area where meth is a problem, and I see what this does to people, and I have no problem with the government intervening.
The reason why I think this way about immigration is because I've experienced it. I married my wife who came here on a student visa that was actually expired. The process was a pain, and it showed me how incompetent the people at the INS are.
My wife is just now in the process of applying for her citizenship after having had her green card for about 5 years. We went to USCIS a couple of weeks ago, and I did see a huge improvement in how they handle the process compared to 1999.


150 posted on 12/05/2006 8:15:37 AM PST by greenthumbedislndr
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