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NASA Schedules Briefing to Announce Significant Find on Mars...
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Posted on 12/05/2006 10:36:33 PM PST by edmond246

NASA hosts a news briefing at 1 p.m. EST, Wednesday, Dec. 6, to present new science results from the Mars Global Surveyor. The briefing will take place in the NASA Headquarters auditorium located at 300 E Street, S.W. in Washington and carried live on NASA Television and www.nasa.gov

(Excerpt) Read more at nasa.gov ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c2c; georgenoory; mars; marsglobalsurveyor; nasa
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Caught this on Drudge in red, with speculation that it could be water. I looked for this thread but couldn't find the story, so I posted it. If it's wrong or not properly done, by all means take it down and do it right.
1 posted on 12/05/2006 10:36:34 PM PST by edmond246
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To: edmond246

They probably have a new high-res image of the face.

And it's... it's... it's...

Richard Hoagland!


2 posted on 12/05/2006 10:39:57 PM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: edmond246
I'm listening...
3 posted on 12/05/2006 10:46:17 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: djf
it's... Richard Hoagland!

They said "significant" find, not stomach-turning find.

"Significant" means water. Proof of life would be something more than "significant". Proof of intelligent life would be "earth shattering".

4 posted on 12/05/2006 10:47:24 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: djf
"And it's... it's... it's... Richard Hoagland!"

Silly DJF. You know it's gotta be either Art Bell or George Noury. ;P

5 posted on 12/05/2006 10:47:56 PM PST by bd476
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To: BurbankKarl; RadioAstronomer; Ernest_at_the_Beach; lainie; Lijahsbubbe; Global2010; ...
Ping.

6 posted on 12/05/2006 10:49:44 PM PST by bd476
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To: edmond246

http://www.astrobiology.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1176

Aviation Week Exclusive: Water Spotted on Surface of Mars"
Keith Cowing
Monday, December 4, 2006

Editor's note: According to an item first posted by Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine: "NASA is ready to announce major new findings about the presence of water currently emerging onto the surface of Mars.
If confirmed, this would increase the possibility that microbial life could have existed recently or possibly exists now on the Martian surface. The potential seepage of ground water onto or near the surface has been a key area of investigation by the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft (AW&ST Nov. 27, pp. 53-55).

The MGS spacecraft remains out of contact and is feared lost, as the new Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter also begins the search for evidence of Martian water."


7 posted on 12/05/2006 10:53:00 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: edmond246; SunkenCiv; Swordmaker

NASA Mars announcement. Waiting for details.


8 posted on 12/05/2006 10:55:22 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Defiant; bd476

The problem with Hoagland is he's a flat out kook bar. He finds "evidence" because he's looking so dam hard for it.

The trouble is, he knows more than enough science to actually be right sometimes. Just not yet.


9 posted on 12/05/2006 10:56:03 PM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Water Spotted on Surface of Mars

Bush's fault. They're just doing Halliburton's bidding.

10 posted on 12/05/2006 11:02:46 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: edmond246

They spotted a candy wrapper.


11 posted on 12/05/2006 11:03:30 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Fred Nerks

Perhaps it's water, perhaps they've found the missing polar lander.


12 posted on 12/05/2006 11:12:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: taxesareforever

They found Marvin, and he's very very angry.
13 posted on 12/05/2006 11:13:49 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Tag, you're it.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

I'd say this upstages the Iraq Study Group.


14 posted on 12/05/2006 11:23:44 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: djf
"The trouble is, he knows more than enough science to actually be right sometimes. Just not yet."

Art Bell had a real JPL scientist on recently. Bell opened the door to let the JPL scientist argue against some of Hoagland's theories.

It was surprising to hear him just say something to the effect of "I don't see it, but I would not want to deny that someone else might have," or words to that effect.

It made the JPL scientist sound that much more credible (and generous) that he would not discount another's opinion, even when indirectly invited to do so.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

15 posted on 12/05/2006 11:25:42 PM PST by bd476
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To: edmond246

They have found an entire civilization of beings that look like this

16 posted on 12/05/2006 11:30:49 PM PST by woofie (This area deemed a failure, Something new and witty will no doubt emerge)
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To: bd476

Well, Hoaglands made a big deal about the "robot head" on the moon. I don't see it either. I emailed George when Hoagland was on and basically said "If we took 100 sewing machines and dropped them on Mars 100,000 years ago, we would find them in various shapes. Some totally eroded and unrecognizable. Some almost pristine. Most would be broken and corroded, but the various parts would be laying around."

You wouldn't find a needle here. Then a wheel a quarter mile away. Then a spool of thread at the other side of the crater sort of thing.

OTOH, I do agree that it's at least POSSIBLE that NASA amd the military are covering things up. There was some fellow in England who got convicted of hacking into JPL's computers.

He basically said he found lots of evidence of SOME PEOPLE at JPL who's sole purpose in life was to tamper and airbrush photos, and that if we knew the truth, we'd be astounded.


17 posted on 12/05/2006 11:36:11 PM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: edmond246
Not enough to run a boat on..


18 posted on 12/05/2006 11:50:57 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: edmond246
It's the flag that Sheila Jackson Lee knew our astronauts planted there ...


19 posted on 12/05/2006 11:58:08 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

FYI: pings.


20 posted on 12/05/2006 11:58:46 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: SFConservative

I guess I sould have at least photoshopped the ground to look red ...


21 posted on 12/06/2006 12:00:10 AM PST by SFConservative
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To: djf
djf wrote: "...He basically said he found lots of evidence of SOME PEOPLE at JPL who's sole purpose in life was to tamper and airbrush photos, and that if we knew the truth, we'd be astounded."

It would be fun to be astounded with new information.

22 posted on 12/06/2006 12:04:42 AM PST by bd476
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To: edmond246
SYLVIA!!!


23 posted on 12/06/2006 12:04:59 AM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: edmond246

Geez, we knew there had been water there for ages. Guess they had to prove it.


24 posted on 12/06/2006 12:10:56 AM PST by TheLion (We are not the health maintenance organization for Mexico)
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To: All
The twist is supposed to be *liquid* water, not ice. We'll see what they say.

And yes, Richard was on Coast-to-Coast a bit tonight hyping how he knew it all along.

25 posted on 12/06/2006 12:19:32 AM PST by newzjunkey (Prepare. President Rodham, 01-20-09.)
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To: ClaireSolt

"I'd say this upstages the Iraq Study Group."

Marvin, you magnificent bastard!


26 posted on 12/06/2006 12:26:18 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Tag, you're it.)
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To: edmond246

they have found oil


27 posted on 12/06/2006 12:38:14 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: edmond246

I would be surprised if there weren't some water in the icecaps. If it's cold enough to freeze carbon dioxide, it's certainly cold enough to freeze water. In fact, maybe they found water vapor in the atmosphere.


28 posted on 12/06/2006 3:23:21 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Flavius

That would definitely be a major find. But I doubt they have the equipment to do that.


29 posted on 12/06/2006 3:25:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Hoagland was on C2C earlier, and he said basically what I thought.

They seem to have found liquid water on the surface (maybe in some kind of geyser mode).

But it's always been said that Mars was just too cold for liquid water, so this would make them change the way they are thinking totally.


30 posted on 12/06/2006 3:28:56 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: Brilliant

i really dont care they better built a pipe line and pump the sucker dry

well drier


31 posted on 12/06/2006 3:29:38 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: edmond246

32 posted on 12/06/2006 3:30:13 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: djf

If it's coming up in a geyser, then I guess it makes some sense. Subterranean water would not necessarily be the same temperature as the surface. Of course, it would likely either evaporate or freeze very quickly.


Personally, I think it's a waste to spend billions to see if microbial life exists on Mars. So what if it does? To me, that would not be all that surprising, nor would it be a very useful bit of information. I would be more interested in exploring exploitable resources.


33 posted on 12/06/2006 3:34:56 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: edmond246

Hoffa's Grave ?


34 posted on 12/06/2006 3:43:36 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Flavius

Personally, I would not be surprised if there is oil up there. Maybe on comets. The idea that the oil down here is of purely biological origin just does not work for me. There is too much of it. My suspicion is that it was created in great clouds of gas that once surrounded the Sun.


So if this theory is right, then I would not be surprised if there is oil on Mars or even on the Moon. Of course, it would cost a fortune to get it to Earth.


35 posted on 12/06/2006 3:44:02 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Defiant

If they found water that would be "fascinating". If it's still ice that would be "interesting". Water would be a sure sign of global warming on Mars. Probably caused by all those unmanned SUV's we've got roaming the planet.


36 posted on 12/06/2006 3:44:21 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Brilliant

Well, we've found Martian meteorites on Earth, it's almost a certainty that some Earth rocks made it to Mars.

And I thing about the first half dozen to dozen probes that we sent there didn't have extensive bacterial decontamination before they were launched, that's a relatively recent protocol.

We should terraform it. Send up some lichens, molds, mosquitoes and dumpster divers.

Before you know it, somebody would be selling condos.


37 posted on 12/06/2006 3:44:49 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: djf

What they need to do is the "nonenvironmental" thing. Ram a few comets and asteroids into it. Give it a little more gravity, a little more atmosphere, and a little more liquid.

I would start with Phobos and Diemos.


38 posted on 12/06/2006 3:50:20 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

My suspicion is that it was created in great clouds of gas that once surrounded the Sun.

LOL! My suspicion is that theory was created in great clouds of smoke that once surrounded your head.


39 posted on 12/06/2006 3:51:56 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Brilliant

40 posted on 12/06/2006 3:53:14 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Brilliant
I'm not so sure that Mars is all that hostile now.

Here is a true color image of a Martian morning. Note the clouds and sky color.


41 posted on 12/06/2006 3:56:42 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: Molly Pitcher

You may want to watch this presser...


42 posted on 12/06/2006 4:27:17 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog

Thanks, Dog! This briefly caught my eye in the scan of the threads this a.m., but it didn't sink in...


43 posted on 12/06/2006 4:29:49 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: djf

It's hostile. We're talking average temps more than 100 degrees below zero, poisonous (carbon dioxide) atmosphere, and atmospheric pressure that is a tiny fraction of that on Earth. Also, it's a desert.


44 posted on 12/06/2006 4:30:56 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: saganite

Nah. I don't smoke. I just have a good imagination. And why not? The fact is that astronomers have identified petrochemicals in outer space using spectometry. Those weren't likely made thru biological processes.


45 posted on 12/06/2006 4:34:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Well, it's not Jamaica. But it's not Pluto or Venus either. Probably at least a hundred life forms on Earth that would find Mars to be paradise.


46 posted on 12/06/2006 4:36:09 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: Brilliant
It's hostile. We're talking average temps more than 100 degrees below zero, poisonous (carbon dioxide) atmosphere, and atmospheric pressure that is a tiny fraction of that on Earth. Also, it's a desert.

Well yeah, Boston is like that, but what about mars?

47 posted on 12/06/2006 4:40:58 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: djf

That is true, but unfortunately, one of them isn't us. I don't see why it would be so bad to do a little planetary engineering. We can get rid of some of the potentially killer asteroids by ramming them into Mars. Ram them head on into Phobos or Diemos, and the whole ball of wax will go spiraling down onto the planet. There's nothing there to break. No fragile ecosystem. No people. No cities.

It'll give us some practice moving asteroids around and at the same time make Mars a better place to live.


48 posted on 12/06/2006 4:43:11 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: edmond246
I predict nothing exciting, but something mundane like:


49 posted on 12/06/2006 4:46:29 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: bd476

The real scientists that Bell and Noory have on always seem to be briefed to treat all the callers as if they are intelligent and are asking intelligent questions about possible things. The exchanges can be pretty ludicrous.


50 posted on 12/06/2006 4:48:40 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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