Skip to comments.FYI: Outgoing Santorum votes AGAINST Gates (SecDef Nomination) (mocks 'talking' with Iran)
Posted on 12/07/2006 6:12:52 AM PST by FreedomNeocon
Overall, 52 Republicans, 42 Democrats and one independent voted for Gates. Three lawmakers _ Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C. _ did not vote.
Two Bush allies, Sens. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and Jim Bunning, R-Ky., voted against Gates, citing his criticism of the war and his view that the U.S. should engage Iran as part of a solution.
"Mr. Gates has repeatedly criticized our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan without providing any viable solutions to the problems our troops currently face," Bunning said. "We need a secretary of defense to think forward with solutions and not backward on history we cannot change."
Santorum, who lost his re-election bid last month, mocked the idea of engaging dictators and talked at length of the evils of "radical Islamic fascism." When it comes to reaching out to Iran to discuss the security of Iraq, Santorum said of Gates, "I think he is in error."
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It looks like that now, but ten years from now he'll look like an oracle. He'll be vindicated.
And since he's a young man, he can capitalize on it, once Americans wake up from this period of silliness.
No thanks; not even in a swap for Camden, Trenton and Newark!
I disagree. Ten years from now he's look like a relic.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Those are fighting words!
Casey is going to toe the liberal 'Rat line when it comes to voting on nominees for the USSC, you watch. He's an empty suit when it comes to being pro-life.
I don't know. They seem to have been mad at the entire GOP and stayed home. If you browse this thread you'll get a sense of their anger at the entire Party:
Ahh, you just don't like what he said about that Supreme Court case.
Well he was right, the Courts by the Nichean ruling have opened the doors to anything goes, and we'll see it soon. Heck polygamists are already talking about using the Texas case in lower courts.
I wish I could channel Neville Chamberlain and ask him about our chances for a successful outcome if we "engage" with Iran.
I believe his statements were politically stupid, regardless of their merit.
I further maintain that he is unelectable by a majority of Americans.
Yes, even if Rick Santorum runs and loses in the primary it will be a precursor for the real run in '12 or '16.
You know I have a theory that McPain_in_the_poopa will lose in the primaries, will run as an Independent, and hand it to the RATS by knocking out the GOP candidate.
However, I still say that the primaries debates will show Rick to be a worthwhile candidate for the next time around.
I agree with that, right now.
I got to believe that intellectual honesty will not always incur the political death penalty, as it does now.
Rick's an odd duck, embracing SocSec reform in a state where it guaranteed him a loss, as its population is so dang old. Just another example of the man's honesty.
IMHO there will be a disaster coming inolving Gates as Sec. of Defense.
This is sadly true. But a primary run in order to keep the party at least somewhat attentive to life/border/security issues wouldn't be all bad.
"Yes, even if Rick Santorum runs and loses in the primary it will be a precursor for the real run in '12 or '16."
I like your thinking!
Would New Jersey take NYC too.
No, you got me confused or I got you confused.
A total misunderstanding of the ME thought process:
Negotiator = weak -------> loser
Gates is a loser BEFORE he starts to negotiate. He's supposed to be the rock behind our troops. He comes in with a near-unanimous vote by pleasing everybody.
Last time I checked; you don't win ANY war by pleasing everybody. If everybody is pleased and even calling you victorious you must have lost BIG!
I agree. I just don't understand it.
Yep.... Philthydelphia does belong in NJ.
Then why don't you nudge him a li'l? LOL
This really good man should in all fairness be our next President.
Santorum For President!
Santorum was born in Winchester, VA. Pennsylvania may be drifting into the deep blue condition of the other Northeastern states. He might consider re-establishing a career in the state of his birth, which has not yet fully gone over to the dark side.
The difference between Chamberlain and the Democrats can be thus summarised - one could learn, the other will never learn.
Now why didn't I think of that?
Maybe I'll just give him a call and suggest it; what do you think? Or........I could make a trip to Pittsburgh and flat out tell him in person!!
Who knows, maybe I will!
Point well taken.
I wondered who the 2 senators were that voted against Gates......gotta love Santorum.....
OK---where, what and when??? Turnpike? Bologna sandwiches? Midnight?
Scaife seems to have given up on conservative causes including his Tribune-Review newspaper. The editorial staff is now a bunch of moderates who are considered conservative by the die-hard union guys and the wild-eyed left wing lunatics at the Putz-Gazette. I think he was embarrassed by the Clintons into withdrawing from his pet causes and turned the paper over to the "journalism school professionals" to run, or maybe he's just old and has given up. He has bought a bunch of dismal little local papers ringing P'burgh and their editorial staffs are more nasty-progressive in the Carville style than if Soros owned them and their editorializing extends to everything in the papers except maybe sports.
Does anyone have a link to the speech?
I am proud of Rick - and Jim Bunning. I don't trust Gates.
Pat Toomey supported Rick. If conservatives stayed home or supported Casey, shame on them!
Casey is not to be trusted on right to life - he told Schumer he will not approve pro life judges.
Santorum was the ONLY politician to spank Hillary on the floor for her support of Alive Birth Abortion and Psychological Health Of The Mother abortions.
What was the deep red's problem w/Santorum?.... He supported Sphincter instead of Toomey.
Read article in Jewsforlife, "Beware of Caseys Bearing Gifts". Little Casey was bought by Schumer.
But Toomey campaigned for Rick - that should have been enough to get "conservatives" to vote for him. It is possible that Pennsylvania just plain changed over the past six years.