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Immigrants pay off big for Texas' economy
. San Antonio Express-News ^ | 12/07/2006 | R.G. Ratcliffe

Posted on 12/08/2006 8:17:53 AM PST by Graybeard58

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1 posted on 12/08/2006 8:17:57 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

I'll say it again; Just think of how rich we'd be if we had another 40-50 million illegals.


2 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:32 AM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: Graybeard58

I wonder how much pedophiles or car thieves contribute to the economy?


3 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:55 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: Graybeard58

battle socialism, not immigration...

http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm


4 posted on 12/08/2006 8:19:59 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: Graybeard58
1.4 to 1.6 million illegals.

It's and army.

But not an army that needs weapons to take over America.

But and army than only needs to wait patiently and let the socialists in government and the media hand it to them.
5 posted on 12/08/2006 8:21:25 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Graybeard58
How much of that money gets sent to Mexico via Western Union?


6 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:01 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Graybeard58

I don't pretend to know much about return on capital and stuff like that, but I find it hard to believe that for every $1 in services the cost, the illegals boost the economy of Texas by $19. Particularly since they aren't typically in great-paying jobs anyway.

I'm more than willing to be shown where I'm wrong...nicely.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 8:22:55 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Graybeard58

Please pile on the negative comments, this shows a slight positive aspect of immigration - which is unacceptable.


8 posted on 12/08/2006 8:23:12 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Graybeard58

I simply don't believe these numbers. There was an agenda, from the get go, to demonstrate how much immigrants "benefit" the state.


9 posted on 12/08/2006 8:24:40 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: Graybeard58
The $17.7 billion positive impact on the state's economy does not factor in any effects of the immigrants sending money home.

Given that there is a business on every other block and a Western Union in many grocery stores doing this it must be HUGE. The Western Union in Randalls on Hwy 6 in Sugar Land has forms in Spanish to be used for money going to Mexico in front of every other form.

10 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:24 AM PST by TWfromTEXAS (We are at war - Man up or Shut up.)
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I don't trust the report. Here's why, the government benefits from the illegals (cheep labor to constituent donors/future voters) and it is in there benefit to convince us that we need them. Its like a circular argument.
11 posted on 12/08/2006 8:26:50 AM PST by chaos_5
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To: Graybeard58; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Allegra; Xenalyte; dasher; ...

Well holy sheep-pucky Batman!!!

I guess this makes it ok for them to be here anyway...

Never mind it still cost "US" 929 million dollars...

And that it "BENEFITTED" our "GOVERNMENT" 17.1 BILLION dollars...

Thats just seems like a "do nothing about it" boon to our elected elite...

Makes total sense now...

Pretty soon I see us being told that "spanish" will be our second language...We'll have to attend classes, take tests, be ready to conduct business in it as well...

All in the need to be inclusive, sensitive, and friendly to those who have (and will soon be pardoned) for breaking our law...

Ohhhh, I just can't wait.../big-time sarcasm


12 posted on 12/08/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: 3AngelaD
"I simply don't believe these numbers. There was an agenda, from the get go, to demonstrate how much immigrants "benefit" the state."

I am not going to argue either way but do keep in mind that Texas does not have a State income tax and therefore most taxes come from sales tax which the illegals do pay. California on the other hand is in a very different situation by having a State income tax which the illegals do not pay into.

13 posted on 12/08/2006 8:27:43 AM PST by avacado
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To: darkwing104
How much of that money gets sent to Mexico via Western Union? --------------------- Didn't WU get smackd down for wire transfers to S. America recently? I thought I read about that somewhere.
14 posted on 12/08/2006 8:28:35 AM PST by roostercashews
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To: Graybeard58

I didn't see an estimate on how much it costs a family who had a child molested by an illegal immigrant.Did it mention the cost of car insurance or the injuries and death caused by non insured illegal drivers?Maybe they should add the costs that come from all the drugs that cross our border with the illegal aliens.I don't even want to think about the price we will pay when a few terrorist mingle in with the illegals crossing our border.



6 posted on 12/07/2006 11:04:12 PM CST by peeps36


15 posted on 12/08/2006 8:28:58 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: traviskicks

The economic issues are not the crucial ones, in my view. The real issue is one of assimilation. When immigrants come to the US because they believe this is the greatest nation on Earth, and they are grateful for the opportunity to become 'American', they strengthen our country. On the other hand, if they are here only to make money, do not identify themselves as Americans, and do not have allegiance to this nation, they weaken us, irrespective of the sum total of their economic contributions.

Regarding the battle against socialism, I would like to see statistics delineating what percentages of these immigrants are pro or anti-socialism. I firmly believe that radical changes in voting/political demographics that can occur as a consequence of insensible immigration policy can destabilize this, or any nation.


16 posted on 12/08/2006 8:30:58 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Bigh4u2
"But and army than only needs to wait patiently and let the socialists in government and the media hand it to them"

Exactumundo! Like the housing bubble bursting at any second, with dims now in control the MSM's attitude has done a 180.

And now the Dixie Chicks are all the rage...

17 posted on 12/08/2006 8:31:08 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (I'll Never Be Broke Another Day in My Life!)
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To: SF Republican
Yes it is TOTALLY unacceptable - and on many levels!

Just for starters this report makes no mention, nor does it factor in, the negative impact of suppressed wage rates in many jobs - i.e. as caused by swarms of new "ILLEGALs" that come in and agree to work for even lower wages.

The argument that most of these jobs are ones that Americans would be unwilling to do is a false argument
18 posted on 12/08/2006 8:31:44 AM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: darkwing104; Graybeard58; All
How much of that money gets sent to Mexico via Western Union?

Don't know where I found this, but here's one take

An estimated 11 million Mexican citizens are in the United States, about half of them illegally. Last year, Mexican migrants sent home more than $20 billion in remittances, the country's second leading source of foreign income after oil. In the first eight months of 2006, remittances rose by nearly 20 percent over the same period last year, according to figures released by the Mexican Central Bank on Mond

19 posted on 12/08/2006 8:32:32 AM PST by beachn4fun (Don't forget the deployed troops during the Holidays.)
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To: Graybeard58

As far as I can tell, they don't factor in the cost of providing "free" public education to illegals and their children, and providing bi-lingual classes, translators, special remedial services, "free" breakfasts/lunches, etc.


20 posted on 12/08/2006 8:33:42 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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