Posted on 12/08/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by Uncledave
So to summarize your lengthy post, even though Rudolph Giuliani supports abortion, is a leader in the radical homosexual movement, supports anti-gun legislation and is pro-illegal immigration, he has your vote.
My problem with Rudy is NOT any single one issue. THAT, simply put, is my point!!
If it was just one issue--I could look the other way. As I have repeated on this thread--I can overlook one or two,,,but NOT FIVE MAJOR ISSUES!!! (and I am ignoring the 'train wreck'--aka his personal life)
His abortion, gun control, pro-gay, amnesty, big government leanings, and support and endorsement of Mario Cuomo (showing minimal Republican loyalty--as he not only voted for Cuomo, but ENDORSED him publicly. That tells me a lot about his core political leanings. Voting for George McGovern his late 20's also tells me a lot about his core political leanings--as I, too, voted in that election and remember McGovern's positions very, very well.)
He was a fine mayor, and he probably would have been a great NY senator if he had done his country, his party and his state a GREAT SERVICE be removing Hillary from the Senate. He chose not to. Probably because his postitions aren't all the different than Hillary's (he has stated in the past that Slick's positions weren't all that different either). He probably also felt he could not win (in the state that knows him best, loves him and where he has proven his leadership). That, too, is sad. He could have retained control of the Republican Senate--and likely severely damaged Hillary's Presidential ambitions.
As I have stated before, he can spare us his efforts now. If he gets elected, I'm sure he can do it without my, my wife's and two sons votes--as we all agree there is no way we would ever vote for him.
I wish him luck, but will give him absolutely no support at all--while doing what little I can to make sure he is not nominated or elected.
Good for you! I guess THAT makes you better then the rest of us, non military folks, I'll just mention in passing that I have a marine son (out), but don't need to bring him into the fray to make a point.
So you don't like Rudy, great, I won't waste anymore time on your or the rest of the anti-Rudy crowd.
All I gotta say is this,
-Reagan voted, supported, and campaigned for FDR and Truman.
-Giuliani voted and supported McGovern.
-Reagan was a Liberal Democrat.
-Giuliani was a Liberal Democrat.
-Reagan switched to the Republican Party.
-Giuliani switched to the Republican Party.
-Reagan legalized Abortion in California but,
personal came to oppose it.
-Giuliani personally opposes abortion but,
believes it it is up to the courts to decide
whether it remains legal.(This is no different than how Reagan opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act but, still supported civil rights)
-Reagan ran in 1980 as a libertarian anti-communist
-Giuliani will un in 2008 as a libertarian anti-islamist
-Reagan supported illegal immigration and amnesty
-Giuliani supports comprehensive immigration reform
-Reagan hung out with freaky eccentric Hollywood types.
-Giuliani hangs out with freaky eccentric New York types.
-Reagan was friends with gays and supported their civil rights.
-Giuliani is friends with gays and support their civil rights.
-Reagan opposed the Ban on Gays teaching.
-Giuliani supports Gay Civili Unions.
-Reagan invited gay couples to sleep in his house.
-Giuliani has slept in the homes of a gay couple.
-Reagan talked the talk of religious conservativism but,
rarely walked the walk.
-Giuliani talks the talk of religious conservativism but,
usually militantly defends Judeo-Christian religious freedom.
-Reagan appointed two liberal sumpreme court justices.
-Giuliani supports strict constructionists like Alito and Roberts
-Reagan was a great leader that is seen as a hero of American Folklore
-Giuliani is a great leader that is seen as a hero of
American Folklore
-Reagan pulled in the ethnic, asian, and hispanic vote.
-Giuliani will pull in the ethnic, asian, and hispanic vote.
-Reagan restored the North maintained the West while pulling into the South firmly into the GOP camp.
-Guiliani will restore the West, maintain the South while pulling the North firmly into the GOP camp.
-Reagan won a landslide twice by attracting Democrats in droves.
-Guiliani will win a lanndslide twice by attracting Democrats in droves.
-Reagan restored America's confidence after the malaise of the shock of 1968 & 69, scandals,an unpopular war with a shameful end,high gas prices, and a presidency void of leadership
-Giuliani will restore America's confinence after the malaise of 9/11, scandals,an unpopular war with a shameful end(I hope not),high gas prices, and a presidency void of leadership(Wake-up Mr. President!)
Here's my point if Clinton equals Kennedy/Johnson and Bush(43) equals Nixon/Ford then Giuliani equals Reagan.
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