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10 WAYS TO FIGHT MOHAMMED-WORSHIP
December 16, 2006 | Urbane Guerilla

Posted on 12/16/2006 1:06:03 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla

10 WAYS TO FIGHT MOHAMMED-WORSHIP

The worship of mohammed, which is inspired by islam (the made-up mess of a book called the koran, the hadith, the sira), has a nihilist view of existence, as do all the totalitarian belief systems thought up and implemented by demented, hating men. Paradise is always on the horizon; destruction, violence, hatred, sadism, pain and death, always on the march toward the ever-receding goal; in this case, until you get the promised sex orgy in heaven.

Bombs and soldiers are not anywhere close to the answer in confronting totalitarianism. Nor is merely the will to win, as if we could gain victory if we only tolerate more deaths by our own civilization, and more of our treasure expended in ever greater amounts.

This is above all an ideological war. It needs to be waged as a battle of ideas.

The audience for this battle splits into two parts, the worshippers of mohammed, and those in the West who cannot or will not recognize their own peril, or who indeed share the totalitarian pov and hate liberty, especially because they hate America.

Here are ten ideas and themes, (they are many more) we can use in the battle.

1. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL. Jihadis and other mohammed-worshippers think they are going to the sex orgy in the sky. This is a very vulnerable mental state. The question of their ultimate other-worldly destination resides in the upper-most part of their psychologies. They must be told at every chance that their destination is HELL.

2. YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED BY RICH COWARDS. The vast disparity of wealth in the islamic world is rich with possibilities. Poor, ignorant moslems (meaning, most) must be bombarded with the idea that their religion is a sham used by wealthy cowards, who are only interested in saving their own pampered, sheltered lives and their money, but who use mohammed-worship to keep ordinary moslems down.

3. YOUR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE. There is always going to be a large segment of moslem women who will be intelligent enough and courageous enough to be susceptible to the truth, and of acting upon it. They can be a valuable fifth column. Even with the relentless intimidation and brain-washing moslem men inflict on moslem women, the human mind is capable of understanding the truth, and the human heart of fighting for the respect and dignity every human being deserves.

4. YOUR CIVILIZATION IS A ZERO. mohammed-worship produces nothing constructive, adds nothing positive, creates nothing, and can take no pride in any accomplishments modern man can think of.

5. MOHAMMED IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATH. The man worshipped by moslems had all the expected failings of a sociopath. They are familiar to anyone who has studied islam even a little, but they are unknown or denied even by mohammed-worshippers, forget about Westerners. The various aspects of this sociopath's life must be relentlessly presented to the world.

6. THE KORAN IS A VIOLENT, INCOHERENT MESS. The koran, to worshippers of mohammed, is the perfect analogy to the Resurrection for Christians. If you don't believe in the koran as the literal spoken word of allah, then you don't believe the central tenet of the faith. The koran is so incoherent and ridiculous, it cannot be defended except by death threats and intimidation. It must be "deconstructed" in the hundreds of ways possible. All that needs to be shown, literally, is that one word of the koran is false: how difficult can this be, if the propaganda is relentless enough?

7. MOHAMMED-WORSHIP CAN ONLY BE DEFENDED BY DEATH THREATS AND INTIMIDATION. The worship of mohammed is illogical and irrational, hence it can only be defended by death threats and intimidation. As long as those are the only "logical" means available to defend islam (that is, any exercise of human intelligence in any aspect of islam is deemed to be dissing allah), they should be focused upon daily.

8. ISLAM HATES AND DISRESPECTS CHRISTIANS, JEWS, HINDUS, BUDDHISTS AND EVERY NON-WORSHIPPER OF MOHAMMED. This cannot be stressed enough. Everywhere in the world the worship of mohammed goes, it hates and kills. The koran teaches moslems to disrespect and loathe the belief of Jews and Christians. The worship of mohammed deserves no more than what advocates toward others.

9. THE WORSHIP OF MOHAMMED HAS NO GOLDEN RULE, NO FORGIVENESS OF OTHERS, AND IS LOVELESS. This cannot be stressed enough. The golden rule is inherent in human nature. Even moslems, because they are human beings, must understand that the golden rule is the basic rule of existence. But they have been convinced that infidels are subhuman, and thus not worth according respect even in the most basic way.

10. WE LOVE MOSLEMS, WE PITY THEM, WE HOPE FOR THEIR REVERSION TO HUMANITY. This also cannot be stressed enough. mohammed-worshippers are human beings, just like the rest of us, no better and no worse, except their minds have been flooded with fear, intimidation, irrationality and hatred. The propaganda battle must include a constant reminder that all we want is their peaceful happiness and fulfillment.


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Movies, books, tv, radio, escpecially the internet, we all must contribute to the propaganda battle against jihad.

Our government, and the President in particular, have made the decision not to participate in the battle of ideas. Our governing class knows little or nothing about islam, nor do they care to learn, as long as they have their fat lives to lead.

But just because our political class is brain dead, except to the calculations which make them more comfortable or more powerful, does not mean that Americans cannot conduct their own war of ideas.

Somewhere out there are thousands of clever, creative Americans, who can conduct this war with their wits and their courage. Not many of us have the means or the talent to do it on a mass scale, but many do.

My hope is that those with the means and talent to wage the battle on a mass scale, do so.

1 posted on 12/16/2006 1:06:04 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
The worship of mohammed

Muslims don't worship the Mo man. They consider that idolatry.

I'll finish reading the rest of the article now.

2 posted on 12/16/2006 1:13:41 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
6. THE KORAN IS A VIOLENT, INCOHERENT MESS.

Especially after cleaning one's arse with its pages.

3 posted on 12/16/2006 1:14:28 PM PST by rickmichaels (God Bless America, Land That I Love...)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
I absolutely agree. Ultimately, it is a war of ideas. One of the problems, however, is that what we export to the world from a cultural perspective is often not very convincing. If TV and movies were where you formed your opinions about American society, you would come away absolutely thinking that we have no moral core. It's not true, but it's what we project. Combine that with the criticism of America that our own celebrities freely state abroad, and you have a big problem in the war of ideas. At least half the world thinks we have an idiot war monger as a president, and that is directly influenced by what the left in our country has been trumpeting and the complicit media repeating.
4 posted on 12/16/2006 1:15:21 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

"5. MOHAMMED IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATH."
You forgot to add 'Pedophile.'


5 posted on 12/16/2006 1:21:59 PM PST by Chewie84
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

You have some rather pithy points about Islam, however none of them will actually win the battle with Islam, except for portions of #10. But telling them how rotten they are and that they will burn in hell, albeit true, just is not a way to persuade people. And moslems are indeed people, made in the image of God.

The first step in fighting Islam is done on our knees. Make no doubt this is a spiritual battle against powers, against principalities, against the spiritual forces in the dark places. Quite frankly, most Christians neglect this aspect and then wonder why we're not effective. To neglect prayer is analogous to going into battle without bullets and then wondering why the enemy isn't wounded. Duh!

Second, get training! Learn how to evangelize. Learn how to present the Gospel. Learn what a person has to do to be saved. Many Christians cannot give a concise conherent presentation of how to become a Christian. Most of us were taught how to introduce one person to another. Again, learn how to introduce someone to Jesus.

Third, actually evangelize. We have moslems in the US living and working. They're in our neighborhoods. Have you gone to visit them? Have you established a relationship with them? Are you seeking to convert your unsaved neighbor? My guess is no. I really think God has brought them to the US so we will evangelize them. We do a poor job of sending evangelists to them so God brings them to us. He actually loves those heathen! Can you believe it? Perhaps God doesn't know they lop off the heads of the good guys and don't deserve to go to heaven. He wants them to hear about Jesus. We should obey.


6 posted on 12/16/2006 1:25:15 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
If you don't believe in the koran as the literal spoken word of allah, then you don't believe the central tenet of the faith.

I'm trying not to be critical, but Islam is a works based religion. Muslims believing that the Koran is the literal spoken word of Allah is not one of the pillars of their faith. There five pillars of the faith are all works based, thus their faith becomes very legalistic when applied in it's primitive form

The Testimony of Faith
Ritual Prayer
Obligatory (religious) almsgiving
Fasting
The Pilgrimage to Mecca

The Word of God being inerrant is a Christian based concept.

Muslims believe in abrogation

7 posted on 12/16/2006 1:26:13 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
No Islam, Know Peace!

mosquewatch.com(i wish i had made it up)

8 posted on 12/16/2006 1:34:45 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

BBQ pork sandwiches beat those 10 all to hell, IMO...


9 posted on 12/16/2006 1:41:31 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla; Popman

True, Muslims don't worship Muhammed, and that needs to be altered. But they do consider him to be the greatest and last of the prophets, the chosen one of Allah, the perfect man, the highest model for imitation.

Otherwise this is a concisely written and excellent summary that deserves wide circulation.

After all, if you look at the actual life of Muhammed, that supposed greatest of profits and best of men, it is nothing short of disgusting. Only a cowardly bully would admire it. Muhammed was a liar, a thief, a murderer, a coward, a bully, a slave taker, an abuser of women, and a nutcase.

I would agree. It's time to stop pretending that Islam is an admirable religion, one of the great theistic religions, on a par with Judaism and Christianity. It's hard to get around the conclusion that Muhammed was an instrument of the devil, which was the general opinion of intelligent Christians in the middle ages who had to constantly fight off Muslim attacks, raids, slaving expeditions, and the like.

It's important to emphasize that most Muslims are simply deluded, not consciously evil. But if you give credit to an evil religion, then it is bound to have an evil effect on you.

I think these unpleasant facts need to be confronted, not swept under the rub and ignored. The only way to deal with the problem of Islam, which is a serious threat to the survival of civilization, is to tell the truth about it.

Conversion of Muslims isn't easy, because their family and friends will kill anyone who conversts. But I believe it can be done, and must be done. The only alternatives are surrender or bloodshed on an unprecedented scale. That's what will happen if we don't wake up and confront the facts in front of us.


10 posted on 12/16/2006 1:47:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jemian
You have some rather pithy points about Islam, however none of them will actually win the battle with Islam, except for portions of #10. But telling them how rotten they are and that they will burn in hell, albeit true, just is not a way to persuade people. And moslems are indeed people, made in the image of God.

I respectfully disagree. I do NOT advocate telling them how rotten they are, if you notice. Please re-read what I said.

Worshippers of mohammed are just human beings like the rest of us. They are not some form of super-human.

They are susceptible to logic and truth, just as any human being is. It just depends on how it is told.

They have never been told the truth about their religion. And they do not believe anyone has the courage to tell the truth, even if they suspect it.

Sorry, but pray all you want.

As for me, I think speaking the truth directly to the victims of the brainwashing will be more effective.

11 posted on 12/16/2006 2:03:53 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
1. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL. Jihadis and other mohammed-worshippers think they are going to the sex orgy in the sky. This is a very vulnerable mental state. The question of their ultimate other-worldly destination resides in the upper-most part of their psychologies. They must be told at every chance that their destination is HELL.

Not going to work. In Islam, most worshipers do not go to Heaven anyway, only those who murdered the enemies of Islam. To avoid going to Hell, an ordinary Muslim has to become a suicide bomber.

12 posted on 12/16/2006 2:04:38 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
we all must contribute to the propaganda battle against jihad

This is very true. It is the "holiday season" and many of us will be attending social gatherings. As politically incorrect is you may be made to feel, everyone must speak up about this.

13 posted on 12/16/2006 2:04:47 PM PST by outofstyle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

VERY well stated! Also what may fatally handicap the West in the war of ideas is "politically correct" moral and cultural relativisim, especially as taught in universities, leaving Westerners unable to persuasively articulate WHY our Western culture is preferable to Islamic culture, or just to be able to argue why Western civilization is even WORTH defending!


14 posted on 12/16/2006 2:10:26 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Jemian
The first step in fighting Islam is done on our knees. Make no doubt this is a spiritual battle against powers, against principalities, against the spiritual forces in the dark places.

Very well put and often overlooked. One of the easiest ways to help evangelize Muslims is to get a bible into their hands. Bibles Unbound is a excellent way to help in the struggle. They help you get bibles past official blockades in several counties that restrict access to them.

15 posted on 12/16/2006 2:11:22 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Popman
Muslims don't worship the Mo man. They consider that idolatry.

Others have told me that many times. I do not believe it. I do not go by what people tell me, but the evidence of my own eyes and ears.

mohammed made up this religion by associating himself with allah. mohammed made himself more than the equal of allah in reality.

To believe otherwise is to believe the con game of a narcissistic sociopath.

The whole point of the war on jihad to show people they are worshipping mohammed.

16 posted on 12/16/2006 2:11:27 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Sorry, but pray all you want. As for me, I think speaking the truth directly to the victims of the brainwashing will be more effective.

I am sorry that I misunderstood the emphasis you put on your posts.

I am praying. I pray every day. There are many mosques in the town where I live and I am reminded to pray every time I ride past one on my motorcycle.

Yes, we need to speak the truth to the victims of the brainwashing. But PRAYER MUST BE DONE FIRST OTHERWISE IT WILL ONLY BE OUR OWN HUMAN EFFORTS AND THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE WHICH MUST OCCUR FIRST IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM. Only then will the Holy Spirit work in the hearts of those with whom I am ministering to turn them to the Lord Jesus.

I know wherewith I speak. I live and work in a moslem-dominated country and I am doing this work even now.

Prayer first, confrontation second.

17 posted on 12/16/2006 2:12:13 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Confronting the false religion of Islam is secondary to confronting the false religion of humanism. There is One God, not a shopping cart full of demiurges. We must overcome the dominance of relativism in our own house. In this Christians stand together with Muslim fanatics. Both agree that cultural depravity is the true enemy.
Judaism and Christianity must demand that society end its love affair with immorality. Until we are strong enough to confront our own demons we will not have the character or the strength to confront Islam.


18 posted on 12/16/2006 2:13:13 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Jemian
"I really think God has brought them to the US so we will evangelize them."

Considering Saudi Arabia is financing the mosques, Muslim schools, hate-filled textbooks, clerics, and immigration fees and allowances for the Muslim immigrants, I am not inclined to credit God for bringing them here, nor do I envision the increase in Muslim immigrants under the current administration as boding well for us in the future. It's the exact same formula Saudi Arabia used in Lebanon to create Muslim uprisings against what was once a Christian majority. It's the same formula being practiced in Europe under the Venice Accord that assures Europe supplies of oil and natural gas so long as they allow the free immigration of Muslims into their nations.

Saudi Arabia is essentially colonizing our nation and creating very closed communities. It's very difficult to evangelize to people purposely kept separate from our society. It is even harder when the Saudi published textbooks the Muslim students use throughout their years of education teach that Christians are swine, Jews are apes, it is the purpose of every Muslim to commit themselves to Jihad, and to die a martyr is glorious.
19 posted on 12/16/2006 2:13:46 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Well said.


20 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:06 PM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

"WE LOVE MOSLEMS, WE PITY THEM, WE HOPE FOR THEIR REVERSION TO HUMANITY"

Shame on any Christian who would consider any Muslim less than human, as this quote does. Muslims are children of God. God loves them and sent Jesus to die for them as well as us. Would any of the ten points listed here be effective in softening their hearts and preparing them to accept the testimony of Christ? If not, you need to try something more effective.

This question goes right to the heart of what really works to save souls. What did Jesus do to save people? He taught them truth in the spirit of kindness and then he submitted himself to die to prove his point. He was willing to go to his death to prove that love overcomes all things.

If Christians want to save Muslims, there will be more Christian martyrs, but that is what will reach them. Bombing them, arguing with them, bashing them with condemning Bible verses, and calling them inhuman will not achieve what God desires. If the war on terror is to be stopped, it will take this same kind of love Christ showed us all.


21 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:08 PM PST by gregwest
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To: Cicero
After all, if you look at the actual life of Muhammed, that supposed greatest of profits and best of men, it is nothing short of disgusting. Only a cowardly bully would admire it. Muhammed was a liar, a thief, a murderer, a coward, a bully, a slave taker, an abuser of women, and a nutcase.

Odd, every week and especially this time of year we are flooded with 'Life of Christ' movies, TV specials.
These range from Biblical reenactments to Christ married, had children nonsense.

Has there been a 'Life of Mohammad' program?
I've never seen one.
Wonder why.

22 posted on 12/16/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: backtothestreets

We need to invade those closed communities. We need to aggressively confront those neighbors. When we see a moslem woman at the store, we should go up to her and invite her to our home for tea or whatever. We must not be shy or we will go the way of Lebanon and Great Britain. We must take the offensive and not just sit back and grumble.

We are at war and we MUST confront the enemy. Forget who in the world is sending them; God is ultimately in control. Yes, even over those heathen nations.


23 posted on 12/16/2006 2:24:52 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

This is a war of survival. That is the only idea everyone should focus on. Either non-Muslims survive, or Islam survives. The history of Islam shows these to be the only choices.

We have to learn quickly as non-Muslims that not everyone wants to just get along with others. That is our biggest challenge. We are weak because we convince ourselves everyone would prefer to be like us and live in harmony if given the opportunity. What we want and what Islam wants are at complete opposites, and only one will survive.


24 posted on 12/16/2006 2:25:58 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Confronting the false religion of Islam is secondary to confronting the false religion of humanism. There is One God, not a shopping cart full of demiurges. We must overcome the dominance of relativism in our own house. In this Christians stand together with Muslim fanatics. Both agree that cultural depravity is the true enemy. Judaism and Christianity must demand that society end its love affair with immorality. Until we are strong enough to confront our own demons we will not have the character or the strength to confront Islam.

I think you are exactly wrong, but I think you describe the exact reason why our President refuses to tell the truth.

islam has no interest, as you do, in overcoming humanism. islam has as its sole interest, the destruction of you and every other infidel.

But some Christians, and I believe our president is one, have the illogical notion that by telling the truth about mohammed-worship, they somehow implicate the worship of Jesus.

You can worry about the humanists if you want. I am sorry you think that is more important than fighting jihad.

But you will soon shift your priorities, I believe. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong. But I doubt I am wrong.

25 posted on 12/16/2006 2:26:11 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
religion of peace
26 posted on 12/16/2006 2:29:36 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Jemian

This is a subject close to my heart. But, I do live on the other side of the world and I must get ready for the day. Please forgive me for not responding further, in a timely fashion. I'll answer when I return to the 'net tonight.


27 posted on 12/16/2006 2:30:39 PM PST by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ If life were "fair", we'd all go to hell. I'm glad there is grace.)
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To: Popman

"Muslims don't worship the Mo man. They consider that idolatry."

Except for the people who rioted after the Danish cartoon and the Pope's comment.


28 posted on 12/16/2006 2:30:58 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: Vinnie

Islam forbids representations of Muhammed. Islam tends to be an iconoclastic religion. At various times and places, Muslims have permitted artists to depict persons and scenes. But the strictest versions of Islam disallow any kind of painting, and in particular depictions of Muhammed.

There are exceptions, even in that case. But no one would dare make a movie about Muhammed in which an actor actually played the part, because there would be riots, burnings, and retribution against the makers of the film. I believe Hollywood did make a movie about Islam, but without actually showing Muhammed.

In any case, if you had a movie about Muhammed, it would most likely be politically correct and gloss over the real details.


29 posted on 12/16/2006 2:31:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
It's important to emphasize that most Muslims are simply deluded, not consciously evil.

Correct.

Most Muslims I know and I know several, are very ill informed about their religion. One of the biggest mistakes western people, especially Christians make is to think Christianity and Islam are similar. Nothing is further from the truth

Christianity is basically about "truth", Islam is about "submission" In many ways I am far more informed about their religion than they are because of 9/11.

Most Muslims are just like the back slided Christian that go to church twice a year, they will tell you they are Christians, but in reality they are Christian in name only, many Muslims have the same problem

When comparing the Mo man to Jesus.

The Koran tells the Muslim that Jesus preformed miracles, the Mo man didn't.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was virgin born, the Mo man was an illiterate pedophile.

The Koran tells the Muslim Jesus was sinless, the Mo man was told to repent

There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

30 posted on 12/16/2006 2:36:56 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: gregwest
Shame on any Christian who would consider any Muslim less than human, as this quote does. Muslims are children of God. God loves them and sent Jesus to die for them as well as us. Would any of the ten points listed here be effective in softening their hearts and preparing them to accept the testimony of Christ? If not, you need to try something more effective. This question goes right to the heart of what really works to save souls. What did Jesus do to save people? He taught them truth in the spirit of kindness and then he submitted himself to die to prove his point. He was willing to go to his death to prove that love overcomes all things. If Christians want to save Muslims, there will be more Christian martyrs, but that is what will reach them. Bombing them, arguing with them, bashing them with condemning Bible verses, and calling them inhuman will not achieve what God desires. If the war on terror is to be stopped, it will take this same kind of love Christ showed us all.

I respect your pov, but I vigorously disagree with it.

One of the greatest movies ever made is Zulu.

It is inevitable that we will have our Christians, such as the Christian in that movie. So be it.

worshippers of mohammed do not need their hearts softened. They need their skulls penetrated, and their minds opened. Minds are opened by the truth, not by emotion.

31 posted on 12/16/2006 2:38:02 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Soothesayer
Except for the people who rioted after the Danish cartoon and the Pope's comment.

They rioted because the Mo man is not supposed to be rendered at all, as to have people NOT worship him.

In other words it was a political ploy to stoke up the Arab street.

32 posted on 12/16/2006 2:39:58 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Jemian
"We need to invade those closed communities."

Suggestions on how that might be accomplished? There is one not far from us here in Fresno, California. It is a large fenced, self-contained community including armed guard. There are many such Muslim communities throughout our nation now.
33 posted on 12/16/2006 2:40:18 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Cicero

Not to mention, Islam thrives on tribalism.


34 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:15 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

bookmark ping for a read later , & THANKS Urbane_Guerilla


35 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:24 PM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Cicero
There are exceptions, even in that case. But no one would dare make a movie about Muhammed in which an actor actually played the part, because there would be riots, burnings, and retribution against the makers of the film. I believe Hollywood did make a movie about Islam, but without actually showing Muhammed.

I could see somebody making a porn movie about Mad Mo and his harem. But he would have to do it under an alias and make very sure he was never found

36 posted on 12/16/2006 2:46:52 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

They are susceptible to logic and truth, just as any human being is

These are Religious fanatics, willing to Die and murder others, they are past reason, deviod of Logic....

They are barely Human, they kill as no human can, other than that all similarity to human beings ends there.

Tehy are more closely related to a Mad Dog.
if you saw a mad dog walking down the street ( foaming at the mouth ) comming towards your infant child you...

A. Try to talk reason.

B. appeal to His Logic.

C. empty a clip from Your rifle into his Body, then Burn the corpse.

D. ask the UN and Koffi Anan to enguage in Dialog.


37 posted on 12/16/2006 2:48:45 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

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38 posted on 12/16/2006 2:49:13 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: All

If someone had told me right after 9/11 that President Bush would be hosting at the White House Shi'ite cleric Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, as the President did last week, I would not have ever believed it.


39 posted on 12/16/2006 2:50:49 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Popman
There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

I know you do not intend it, and by no means do I wish to deprecate you, but what you say is moslem propaganda. It indeed shows that a little knowledge is dangerous.

Put aside the fact that moslems disparage and spit upon the Christian understanding of Jesus.

More importantly, despite the fact that they say Jesus was a great prophet, they do not in any way shape or form follow the message or teachings of Jesus. This is very important to understand: worshippers of mohammed DO NOT rely on the truthful understanding of what they believe. They rely on the shallow and completely mistaken understanding of infidels, to take advantage of the witless kafirs.

No, to the contrary, they say that what Westerners believe is the message of Jesus is all a lie and deliberate distortion of God's wishes.

They believe that what Jesus really taught were the absurd and evil banalities taught by the narcissistic sociopath they worship.

40 posted on 12/16/2006 2:52:46 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Ann had it right. To stop the crazy people of Islam, you would have to kill all of the adults and convert the children. That will never happen.


41 posted on 12/16/2006 2:53:44 PM PST by kempo
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To: gregwest
If Christians want to save Muslims, there will be more Christian martyrs, but that is what will reach them. Bombing them, arguing with them, bashing them with condemning Bible verses, and calling them inhuman will not achieve what God desires. If the war on terror is to be stopped, it will take this same kind of love Christ showed us all.

Sorry dude, but these are the people that consider Christians inhuman and worthy on either convertion or death. There is no negotiation! They are a religion vested and raised in total hate of everything that is not a Muslim or Islamic! But don't take my word for it. Go hug a suicide bomber and tell them Jesus loves him. See how far Christs love takes you....probably all over the street!

42 posted on 12/16/2006 2:55:07 PM PST by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

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43 posted on 12/16/2006 2:55:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
The koran is so incoherent and ridiculous, it cannot be defended . . .

Same with the Bhagavad Gita, but the Hindus aren't violent madmen.

44 posted on 12/16/2006 2:58:07 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Hey! What happened to my tagline?)
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To: Popman

Maybe, maybe not. What about the Pope's comment, no rendition there?


45 posted on 12/16/2006 3:16:22 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Looks like a good list to start with.


46 posted on 12/16/2006 3:20:51 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
There Koran tells them that the Mo man was the greater prophet, but because of ignorance they never really understand who Christ is.

That statement is Muslim propaganda? In what way?

Fact: The Koran tells the Muslim that the MO man is the last and greater prophet than Christ

Fact: Most Muslims have very little understanding of Biblical teachings about Christ, they believe what the Koran teaches them

What part of those facts are you claiming is propaganda?

47 posted on 12/16/2006 3:24:16 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Soothesayer
What about the Pope's comment, no rendition there?

Since in the Muslim mind, Islam is a superior religion to Christianity, no one can criticize it, especially the infidel Pope, head of the last organization that defeated and humiliated Islam.

Islam the religion of perpetual rage

48 posted on 12/16/2006 3:30:09 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Popman
The Koran is the Word of God, which means NO TRANSLATIONS ARE POSSIBLE. It is the very anchor of that faith. Thus the enormous variety of cultural adaptations, so that the Islam of the Bedouin is radically different from that of the Shiite farmer.
49 posted on 12/16/2006 3:39:45 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: Hardastarboard

but the Hindus aren't violent madmen

Care to place a small wager on that?
For Dissent Against Hindu Extremism
by Angana Chatterji

July 28, 2002
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/AChatterji_DissentAgainstHinduExtremism.htm

Indian Christians Forced to Worship Hindu Deities
Persecution Blog ^ | November 8, 2006 | Stacy L. Harp

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1735622/posts
Posted on 11/09/2006 10:57:33 AM CST by Sopater

Christians up in arms after Hindu attack
The Australian ^ | September 13, 2006 | Bruce Loudon

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700882/posts
Posted on 09/13/2006 2:34:35 PM CDT by Mount Athos

THE RISE OF HINDU EXTREMISM
and the Repression of Christian and
Muslim Minorities in India
http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/publications/India/summary.htm

Film Ignites the Wrath of Hindu Fundamentalists
NY Times ^

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1626165/posts
Posted on 05/03/2006 3:15:29 PM CDT by The Lion Roars


50 posted on 12/16/2006 3:45:46 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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