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December 16, 2006 | Urbane Guerilla

Posted on 12/16/2006 1:06:03 PM PST by Urbane_Guerilla


The worship of mohammed, which is inspired by islam (the made-up mess of a book called the koran, the hadith, the sira), has a nihilist view of existence, as do all the totalitarian belief systems thought up and implemented by demented, hating men. Paradise is always on the horizon; destruction, violence, hatred, sadism, pain and death, always on the march toward the ever-receding goal; in this case, until you get the promised sex orgy in heaven.

Bombs and soldiers are not anywhere close to the answer in confronting totalitarianism. Nor is merely the will to win, as if we could gain victory if we only tolerate more deaths by our own civilization, and more of our treasure expended in ever greater amounts.

This is above all an ideological war. It needs to be waged as a battle of ideas.

The audience for this battle splits into two parts, the worshippers of mohammed, and those in the West who cannot or will not recognize their own peril, or who indeed share the totalitarian pov and hate liberty, especially because they hate America.

Here are ten ideas and themes, (they are many more) we can use in the battle.

1. YOU ARE GOING TO HELL. Jihadis and other mohammed-worshippers think they are going to the sex orgy in the sky. This is a very vulnerable mental state. The question of their ultimate other-worldly destination resides in the upper-most part of their psychologies. They must be told at every chance that their destination is HELL.

2. YOU ARE BEING EXPLOITED BY RICH COWARDS. The vast disparity of wealth in the islamic world is rich with possibilities. Poor, ignorant moslems (meaning, most) must be bombarded with the idea that their religion is a sham used by wealthy cowards, who are only interested in saving their own pampered, sheltered lives and their money, but who use mohammed-worship to keep ordinary moslems down.

3. YOUR WOMEN ARE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE. There is always going to be a large segment of moslem women who will be intelligent enough and courageous enough to be susceptible to the truth, and of acting upon it. They can be a valuable fifth column. Even with the relentless intimidation and brain-washing moslem men inflict on moslem women, the human mind is capable of understanding the truth, and the human heart of fighting for the respect and dignity every human being deserves.

4. YOUR CIVILIZATION IS A ZERO. mohammed-worship produces nothing constructive, adds nothing positive, creates nothing, and can take no pride in any accomplishments modern man can think of.

5. MOHAMMED IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A NARCISSTIC SOCIOPATH. The man worshipped by moslems had all the expected failings of a sociopath. They are familiar to anyone who has studied islam even a little, but they are unknown or denied even by mohammed-worshippers, forget about Westerners. The various aspects of this sociopath's life must be relentlessly presented to the world.

6. THE KORAN IS A VIOLENT, INCOHERENT MESS. The koran, to worshippers of mohammed, is the perfect analogy to the Resurrection for Christians. If you don't believe in the koran as the literal spoken word of allah, then you don't believe the central tenet of the faith. The koran is so incoherent and ridiculous, it cannot be defended except by death threats and intimidation. It must be "deconstructed" in the hundreds of ways possible. All that needs to be shown, literally, is that one word of the koran is false: how difficult can this be, if the propaganda is relentless enough?

7. MOHAMMED-WORSHIP CAN ONLY BE DEFENDED BY DEATH THREATS AND INTIMIDATION. The worship of mohammed is illogical and irrational, hence it can only be defended by death threats and intimidation. As long as those are the only "logical" means available to defend islam (that is, any exercise of human intelligence in any aspect of islam is deemed to be dissing allah), they should be focused upon daily.

8. ISLAM HATES AND DISRESPECTS CHRISTIANS, JEWS, HINDUS, BUDDHISTS AND EVERY NON-WORSHIPPER OF MOHAMMED. This cannot be stressed enough. Everywhere in the world the worship of mohammed goes, it hates and kills. The koran teaches moslems to disrespect and loathe the belief of Jews and Christians. The worship of mohammed deserves no more than what advocates toward others.

9. THE WORSHIP OF MOHAMMED HAS NO GOLDEN RULE, NO FORGIVENESS OF OTHERS, AND IS LOVELESS. This cannot be stressed enough. The golden rule is inherent in human nature. Even moslems, because they are human beings, must understand that the golden rule is the basic rule of existence. But they have been convinced that infidels are subhuman, and thus not worth according respect even in the most basic way.

10. WE LOVE MOSLEMS, WE PITY THEM, WE HOPE FOR THEIR REVERSION TO HUMANITY. This also cannot be stressed enough. mohammed-worshippers are human beings, just like the rest of us, no better and no worse, except their minds have been flooded with fear, intimidation, irrationality and hatred. The propaganda battle must include a constant reminder that all we want is their peaceful happiness and fulfillment.

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KEYWORDS: civilization; dhimmis; dhimmitude; islam; mohammed; terror
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To: Jemian

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammo,

Praise the Lord, our tanks we need.

Praise the Lord, stay prepped for battle,

Stay strong and righteous, no time to bleed.

(I just made this up)

61 posted on 12/16/2006 4:34:49 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Popman
"Most Muslims are just like the back slided Christian that go to church twice a year, they will tell you they are Christians, but in reality they are Christian in name only, many Muslims have the same problem."

You are correct in most of your statements. Most Muslims do NOT go to the mosque on a regular basis. Even muslims who carry their prayer beads have no idea what they are supposed to say when fiddling with those 33 beads. They are just something they fiddle with.

Also, you can spot a very devout muslim by the dark spot on their forehead. That is from constantly putting their heads on the prayer rug. Which by the way is very course.
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

#1 Should be obliterate the kuhbah. This destroys the need to hadj to mecca. It also invalidates one of the pillars of their "religion". This also invalidates the queeranus, being infallible. One step would take out their entire satanic slave society!

63 posted on 12/16/2006 4:45:34 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Amin Al Husseini seen inspecting his Hanzar Division made up exclusively of Muslims, mostly from the Crotia/Bosnia/Serbia region. They actively lead the genocide against Serbs, Serbian Jews and Gypsies.

Amin Al Husseini meets with Adolf Hitler in November 1942, weeks before the decision to implement the Final Solution which sent Europe's Jews to the gas chamber. The Third Reich provided Amin Al Husseini with a salary and appointed him Head of the Hanzar SS Division. The Hanzar Division was made of Nazi Muslims and implemented the genocide of 250,000 Serbs, Gypsies and Jews during WWII.

Amin Al Husseini shown here on a Nazi poster recruiting fellow Muslims to join Hitler in the fight against the West and the Jews. His disciples today include Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the leaders of Hamas, Al Qeida and Islamic Jihad.

Amin Al Husseini, future President of the World Islamic Congress (1961) and founding father of the Arab League (1944) inspects his Muslim Nazi troops, the Hanzar Division. Amin Al Husseini making the traditional nazi salute.

Yasser Arafat became a disciple of Amin Al Husseini since the age of 17. Here: recent picture of Palestinian soldiers under the leadership of Arafat making the traditional Nazi salute.

WWII . Amin Al Husseini spent most of the war in Berlin. He was on Hitler's payroll as he lead the Hanzar Division of Muslim SS and played a lead-role in determining the fate of Europe's Jewish community.. From Berlin, Amin Al Husseini helped organize the transfer of Nazi officers into the Middle East

Amin Al Husseini inspecting his Nazi troops, the Hanzar. Here, he is showing a young Muslim recruit how to use his rifle. Amin Al Husseini himself had been an officer in the defeated Ottoman Islamic Empire of World War I.

64 posted on 12/16/2006 4:48:55 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

Rationalize in, rationalize out. Those that didn't arrive at their faith through logic are not going to be convinced they're wrong using logic.

Your heart seems to be somewhat hardened to these people & your desire to get them to reject their faith seems to have more to do with you, what you want, than it has to do with them & their salvation.

Begin again at your tenth point & reach out for them with your heart, rather than your mind.

One of the aspects to our nature has to do with the kind of stimulus that motivates us to change the most. For some, moving away or avoidance of something negative works, while for others there's a need to feel one is moving toward something. From your stated solution, I assume avoiding is the greater motivator for you. I don't see anything about sharing the good news, so right off the bat you're speaking the wrong language for a portion of the population.

Faith in our Father makes us want to spend eternity with him & the orgy scenario created by Islam not only doesn't glorify our Father, it's cheap & a poor replacement theology. Imagine, our Father wants us to experience something greater than anything we experience here on Earth & Islam offers something that is limited & grounded to Earth.

They are selling themselves short & I think you're doing the same, because you & they use Hell as something to avoid, an awful place where no one wants to go, so better shape up, or else... Hell is the grave, it is death. Fear not the one who can kill your body, but fear (revere) the one who can kill your soul.

I'm only trying to get you to see the other half of the truth, though I agree we are called upon to do the work our Father wants us to do, share his message with non-believers. When it is something that is self serving, you're missing the purpose, which includes action that helps to soften our own hearts.

65 posted on 12/16/2006 5:10:54 PM PST by GoLightly
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this one takes the cake.

which one?

66 posted on 12/16/2006 5:12:49 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

I'm surprised clinton hasn't converted then..

67 posted on 12/16/2006 5:25:33 PM PST by Wil H
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To: MojoWire

I'd don't know maybe the believe in the Jesus I believe in or you are going to hell type cake.

Not everyone is born again, we liked the first one.

68 posted on 12/16/2006 5:38:10 PM PST by JNL
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To: BMC1

"Most Muslims do NOT go to the mosque on a regular basis."

Because they know if they do, they will be pressured into jihad.

69 posted on 12/16/2006 5:48:50 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: A. Pole
"Let them decriminalize Christianity in Arabia first."

I'd favor shutting down the Muslim colonies already here first and repatriate all Muslims that have immigrated here.
70 posted on 12/16/2006 6:41:11 PM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Ideas are shared after the enemy is defeated.

1. Bombs
2 Bullets
3. Tanks
4. Planes
5. Spies
6. Helicopters
7. Army
8. Navy
9. Air Force
10. Marines

That's how you fight these lunatics, elimnate as many fanatics as humanly possible until the sane ones are the majority, if that means killing 100 million or more muslims, so be it. It's us or them.

71 posted on 12/16/2006 6:46:24 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Over the top, I'd say.

Muslims have the potential to be entirely constructive members of the community. Just look at professional and economic status that American Muslims have achieved, once they are free of the tribalism, autocracy, and socialism which distorts much of the Islamic world.

Are an observant Muslim's beliefs heavily at odds with those of small-o orthodox and observant Christians? Yes, certainly -- but much less so than your run-of-the-mill white secularist, who, by the way, constitute a large and rising percentage of the population in this country, and a clear majority of the bankers, executives, lawyers, and professors under 40 -- in other words, the ruling class of the next few decades.
72 posted on 12/16/2006 7:14:31 PM PST by only1percent
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To: word_warrior_bob

Amen to that! Don't like it but this course of action is being forced upon us. It is US or them.

73 posted on 12/16/2006 7:22:34 PM PST by 11B40 (times change, people don't)
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To: Valin

I'll amend my statement by making two additional statements. The ones I know personally (and I know quite a few) aren't violent madmen. And, we haven't had to shoot a bunch of them (yet).

74 posted on 12/16/2006 7:30:07 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Hey! What happened to my tagline?)
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To: MojoWire

One of the Christian tenents GWB takes seriously (almost to a fault) is to "love they neighbor as thyself."


This popular and growing segment of Christians who believe that their innate goodness and warming of hearts will defend us from a depraved, brainwashed, psychopathic population will lead to far more American deaths than neccesary.

Harry Truman had the right idea. The Japanese were ready to fight to the last man, woman and child until they got THEIR wake up call-that the Emperor was NOT God.

Until we have a leader with the stones to drop a few nukes on these fanatics they will keep festering. Want to see how fast the common people start rebelling against the terrorists when they come to the realization that America is NOT a paper tiger? Once they see America is the most powerful nation in the world, capable of killing them and their children at will, they will get the message.

The terrorists at the beginning of the war on terror said they will stay and fight and Americans once they see their sons and daughters coming home in body bags will lose their stomach for war.

The anti-war party (with help from the big media parroting this terrorist rallying cry) won a huge victory in the last election.

Now tell me, were they wrong? The fanatics see these "prophecies" coming true and now more fervently support "Allah".

I'm not a lunatic let's kill all the raghead rabble rouser. I see the situation as dire and intellecually I see the way to save the most AMERICAN lives in the long run is to use EXCESSIVE AND OVERWHELMING force to snap these brainwashed people out of their fantasy instead of fullfilling their prophecy of the American Paper Tiger who when the going gets tough, gets going.

75 posted on 12/16/2006 8:04:25 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: word_warrior_bob

Yes, we have these things, but they can't help us if our own public isn't behind us. We marched through Iraq incredibly swiftly, but here we are several years later and our own press, and a large percentage of the American public, think we are losing or have lost. That's how important winning in the public arena is.

76 posted on 12/16/2006 8:25:04 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: sauropod


77 posted on 12/16/2006 8:26:16 PM PST by sauropod ("Come have some pie with me.")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

But right now George Bush is President, and the decisions he makes in the "Global War on Terror" will affect civilization for the next 1000 years.

History repeats itself, in hindsight everyone WOULD have decimated the Nazi's before millions died.

We have a new Nazi machine and they are Radical Islam, does Bush have the courage to kill a few million of them before they plunge the world into a war which kills millions in many countries? No, he doesn't, and many Americans will needlessly die because of it.

We are ready to march home with our tail between our legs saying there is no way to win this war, depressing the population, losing status on the world stage, being exposed as a paper tiger again like in Vietnam.

It is time to kill a few million of them in one day, let them believe there is no way for THEM to win this war against the most powerful, technologically advanced nation in the history of the world. Let THEM walk away with their tails between their legs. Let THEM rebel against their theocracies instead of idiots in America voting for the anti-war party and condemning future generations to muslim nukes and dirty bombs for their own selfish needs today.

78 posted on 12/16/2006 8:40:14 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

I would add that in Islam there is no meaning or redemptive aspect to human suffering. Islam can't explain why good Muslims have to suffer or why Islam has been so unsuccessful in recent centuries. Only Christianity can properly explain the salvific role of human suffering.

79 posted on 12/16/2006 9:04:02 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Popman

Look how intimidated many are to criticize Islam or Mohammed.

Penn & Teller were prevented by Showtime from doing an expose' on Mohammed, how insane is that?

80 posted on 12/16/2006 9:13:41 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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