Skip to comments.Rush Limbaugh Live Thread (?) Monday Dec 18th, 2006
Posted on 12/18/2006 8:37:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie
On Sunday's Meet the Depressed Mr Newt stuck his whole head in it once again. He said we needed to send 500,000 troops to Iraq. Some questions for Mr Newt
Hey Newt, We sent 500,000 troops to Vietnam at the height of our involvement. How did that work out for us?
Curious, where are you going to get the 500,000 troops for Iraq? How long do they stay? What are they going to be doing?
Gee Newt, I guess I missed the part of your Resume that covered your military background. Which Staff Schools did YOU attend Newt?
Newt has become a perfect machine politician. He simply is picking up on what the DC Political-Media complex wants to hear and saying it. He and McCain are basically the singing the same one note DC Marching song. This way both of them can placate the Right by saying "See we are supporting the troops" and still suck up to the DC noise machine by being against how the Iraq mission is being run by the President.
It is short attention span theater time again. The American people simply lack the emotional or intellectually discipline to face anything that requires sustained effort. So as usually the political snake oil salesmen are crawling out of the slime with the usual simplistic answers and easy fixes. Only problem is what they are trying to selling on Iraq is pure poison. The DC "Conventional Wisdom" on Iraq is, as usual, neither conventional nor wisdom
What Newt SHOULD be doing is listening to what Gen Abizaid told the US Senate when he came back from Iraq to testify to the US Senate in mid November. Newt should become Gen Abizaid's standard bearer. Position himself as the guy covering our troops back from the idiots in DC who STILL have learned nothing since LBJ screwed up "Nam.
For example, Newt could be raising the point that when asked specifically about troop levels by Sen McCain, Gen Abizaid (who only happens to be the actual commander on the Ground in Iraq) all but told McCain he is an utter idiot on Iraq. Gen Abizaid made it clear he did NOT need more troops. Newt should cut himself out of the 2008 pack by being the sane serious voice on Iraq backing up the Military rather then merely howling after the Junk Media pack. This "More Troops" propaganda line is both stupid political strategy and stupid military strategy.
There are 4 reasons why too many troops can be as bad as too few troops in a Counter Insurgency Mission.
Retardation, Marginalization, Friction and Unrealistic expectations.
Too many troops retards the locals efforts to develop their own military/political structure to govern . It takes time and effort to train and blood troops. It especially takes time to train up the cadre to run a serious military. Good NCOs and Officers are not born, they are made. This was on of the major US mistakes in Vietnam. It was easier to just have the US troops take over doing everything then work through the leaning curve of the locals. Problem was once the US no longer had the political will to carry on the mission they simply dumped the problem on an under developed Vietnamese political/military structure.
There is this odd American arrogance that seem to think ONLY Americans can do anything. Everyone else is incompetent and or corrupt. Only problem is the American public, like most spoiled brats, lacks the emotional or mental discipline to stick with unpleasant difficult tasks. Too many US troops would simply retards all efforts to get the locals to the point they can contain or break the Insurgents for themselves then when the petulant American people simply decided they wanted us to go home, there would be no one to pick up the bat for us.
Too many troops also marginalizes efforts to develop a counter political structure strong enough to break or contain the Insurgency. It deligitmizes the locals efforts and makes them simply look as lackeys of the occupying power. Having the US run everything marginalizes the political credibility of the local political structure and spurs the Insurgents propaganda and recruitment efforts.
The more troops the more friction with the locals. Face it, having a bunch of hyper aggressive mostly young mostly male Americans suddenly descend on you town is NO ones idea of a good time. Even in our own military towns there is a lot of friction between the locals and the military. Think how much worse that would be in an alien culture with a living memory of being a colony in everything but name? A heavily armed society with an exaggerated sense of male empowerment? Basically you have two aggressive testosterone drive heavily armed dominate male groups in close proximity.
Unrealistic Expectations. Send a lot troop and the expectation is you can quickly and easily solve all problems and bring the boys home. No, not in a Counter Insurgency. Counter Insurgency is evolutionary, not revolutionary. It takes time and lots of back breaking effort.. Sending a whole lot of troops simply exhausted your fiscal and military resources faster.
There are other things such as the added friction both on the locals and the US forces of having heavily armed, under trained conventional troops performing close combat operations in civilian areas. The counter productive results of a "kill people and wreck stuff" Conventional mentality in dealing with a Asymmetrical threat etc etc etc.
Frankly the DC Noise machine should simply shut up and get out of the US Military's way. They studied Vietnam hard and actually have the right answers here. As in Vietnam, the problem here is the "Washington Knows Best" mentality of the entrenched political media power structure who simply will sacrifice anything and anyone to avoid having to admit GW Bush has been right about Iraq all along.
Seattle must have beat the Panthers...
Hillary IS a Stalinist, make no mistake about it.
She's as cut throat as they come.
Her Thighness: "Where no boner has gone before..."
Maybe that's why she's so uptight...
This caller has spunk.
I think she's right. People don't get it.
Rush and Elder and Hannity spend too much
time in the sarcasm mode. Instead of mocking
foolish callers, they need to teach whenever
Hello Johnnie! Sono mode today.
Bears had a first round bye in 2005.
On a serious point, I used to worry when all of my friends, who atteneded the same church, were not at home. I somethimes thought the rapture happened and I was left.
I got over it by realizing that if I were left, then God would be a liar. Since He doesn not lie, my assurance is as sure as my trust in His Word.
How you doing?
Try WJR-760 out of Detroit. Their problem is that they are notorious for cutting out of Rush if something big is happening locally. WLS is my backup station for when that happens- even though they are behind. I haven't had time to find a different backup station lately, but I'm a lot happier now that I've found one.
Yesterday, Barber rushed for 75 yards on 19 carries.
Carter's an idiot. Not even the media takes him seriously anymore. This last bit about the jews not allowing him to speak at universities was over the top, even for the hit and run media types.
I hope you know that my "rapture" comment was
an attempt at humor. But while we're on the
subject... many church goers will be left behind
"spewed out" as it were for being luke warm.
Hiya my friend.
Confusing huh? lol.
From a reader:
I suspect someone has already sent this to you. If not, heres the relevant data: http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/err11/err11.pdf
Turns out children were hungry at some time in 274,000 households (.7 % of households with children). On any given day, 40-50000 households (about 0.1%) had a hungry child.
Nothing to be proud of, but hardly the problem he makes it. His statistics arent about hunger, theyre about food security. The data he presented were households that, at some time (possibly once) during the year felt they had difficulty securing adequate food.
What was that bumper, the Theme Song Of Mentos?
I knew you were in jest. And yes, there will be a lot left in the pews. Were I to hazard a guess, I would say that even in the most biblical church half the membership will be left behind, because their belief was either for personal gain, or was only a head belief.
...How 'bout it? Bears go all the way?
UPS is late. LOL. I'm doing well.
One game at a time.
"Its not just upbringing, men and women are born different.
All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.
-- George Orwell --
SUre, but they'll be stopped by the Saints. ;)
Only if Grossman doesn't initiate any terrorist attacks. You know, lobbing those dirty bombs.
Must be a relief to the folks in the area.
The more children on subsistence the more money to the school. They're not letting any slip through.
...go ahead...go out on a limb...BEARS v SAN DIAGO?
Those who ARE fighting and for war against evil are labelled as redneck nuts who should not be given a gun.
Sorry to all you 'Rush Loyalists Cubed'............ Rush could care not one bit about whether Hillary/Dem wins the Presidential election in 2008.
He has absolutely no interest in the winner of that election.
You lovers of this pretender should call him out.
He's in it for "Big Broadcast Excellence"
What a guy, yet you people listen to this fraud every day (and so do I -- for the comedy.)
And he could care less who wins the 2008 election. That is most likely a fact.
He's nothing but farce and sarcasm. What a hero.
No way...did you see how the 'Aints got nailed by the Redskins? I am NOT convinced in the Saints beating a GOOD team (they have had a weak schedule befitting their terrible year last year) (Same with San Diego)...
No way. One game a time. LOL.
At the minute opinion seems to be split on whether this guy is the actual killer or some local numpty.
Should become clearer in the next few days.
NFC is the worst i have ever seen.
I accidentally watched some of the CNN program yesterday covering Time's selection process.
It was a bunch of Liberals sitting bashing anything to do with Bush, Cheny, Rummy, etc. There was no view from the right, or the middle, for that matter.
THey handed the Cowgirls their hat last week, and just kept rubbing it in until the end.
The Philadelphia Eagles have lift off. Good to get hot at the right time. See you at the Super Bowl!
Every man's way is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart. (Proverbs 21:2)