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Posted on 12/21/2006 8:04:18 PM PST by elhombrelibre
'Only military action can stop Iran'
In a dramatic conclusion concerning the future of the state of Israel, the latest edition of the Middle East Strategic Balance, compiled by the Jaffe Center for Strategic Studies (JCSS) and released to the public on Thursday, calls for military action to stop Iran's nuclear program.
Prepared annually by JCSS at Tel Aviv University, the Middle East Strategic Balance provides an authoritative and indispensable guide to strategic developments and military capabilities in the Middle East by offering a comprehensive, insightful assessment of the complex strategic environment of the Middle East. The report is considered something of a bible for military analysts who follow developments in the region.
The 2005-2006 edition was compiled by former IAF Intelligence officer Yiftah Shapir and Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Zvi Shatuber. Shatuber is a former ambassador to the United Kingdom and was a member of Israeli delegations to peace talks with Syria and the Palestinians.
"Our conclusion is that without military action you won't be able to stop Iran," Shtauber told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.
The United Nations Security Council is set to vote Friday on a sanctions resolution against Iran, which has been revised in response to Russian objections. The latest draft, if approved, would order all countries to ban the supply of specified materials and technology that could contribute to Iran's nuclear and missile programs. The proposed sanctions would also include freezing the assets of a list of companies and individuals involved in the country's nuclear and missile programs.
Despite the impending vote and increased diplomatic action, Shtauber said he believed it was too late for sanctions. "There is no longer a possibility for effective sanctions to stop Iran," he said.
Shapir recently told the Post that Israel has the military capability to destroy at least part of Iran's nuclear installations to the point that it would be possible to delay Iran's acquisition of nuclear weapons.
Earlier in the week, Mossad chief Meir Dagan said that Iran had recently increased efforts to enrich nuclear fuel. Dagan estimated that Iran would be able to begin building a nuclear bomb by 2009.
"There is no longer a possibility for effective sanctions to stop Iran,"
We knew this, it's time for diplomacy by other means.
Bypass Baghdad and start cross boarder action against Iran.
We're in the Middleeast for our interests not the Iraquis.
Starting a revolution by attacking their C&C and Security forces could cause enough disruption to allow seizing/destroying all Iran's nuclear assets with less risk.
I am about to agree
Military action on Iran? Okay good. Then it's time for the Libs to ante-up. Come on you Marxist patriots, let's get with the program and show us how it's done. Meanwhile, we'll bring the REAL soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen home to help us fight in the streets.
This time let the Euro trash stop the Iranians. They are the ones withing range of the Iranian missiles. Just our way of saying "Thanks for your support in the initial stages of Afghanistan and in Iraq."
Surely you say that in jest!!
I've said right along that a real shot at "peace" in Iraq is predicated on the invasion and overthrow of the scumbags in Iran and Syria who are not only supporting terrorists in Iraq but Lebanon,Palestine and other parts of the world. Until this garbage is hung out to dry there will be strong terrorist activity in the Middle East and the rest of the world !!!
We should turn the tables on them and support rebels in their countries. But, if necessary, we should bomb their military infrastructure.
"Our conclusion is that without military action you won't be able to stop Iran," Shtauber told The Jerusalem Post Thursday."
How does Israel propose to stop Iran unless they decide to use "unconvential" weapons.
This is Jimmy Carter's mess - maybe we should let that old fool go clean it up?
What an amazing and novel conclusion. Who knew?
I don't know. I don't see how they could mount a sustained air campaign, but I hope they can.
Yeah, that's going to happen. His plan is to screw things up, not help, as I'm sure you know.
Everyone who thought it through and was willing to do more than hope for sanctions and diplomacy to work.
Several times in the Bible we are told that "Damascus will become a ruinous heap, never to be inhabited again" Now I don't know that "never occupied anymore" is due to radioactivity,or biological agents, gas etc,,, but something makes neither man nor beast seek shelter in that city.
We are told that we are living in days which resemble the days of Noah. Days where we are warned "Do not harm the wine or the oil" Since most all nations in the ME seem to be floating in oil, where else would be logical target to strike if we wanted the muslim world's attention, but did not want to blow up the oil production facilities we need?
Finally, Damascus has been a terrorist's haven from most all despicable foreign governments doing dirty work worldwide. With so-dam-mad "the pitiful" out of his spider hole in Iraq and all set to swing from a rope soon, there are few places for a Sunni guy to party these days.
These are just my incoherant ramblings, but I personally think that if GWB intends to remain and or become an American hero, he will hit them so damn hard the entire arab world will instantly understand. Allah ain't shit folks, we just let an arab capitol get melted by an American nuke.
The arab world has no tradition of civil rights, voting rights, equal rights,gay rights; HaHaHa! "habeas corpus" is the mass grave where your family was raped, brutalized and burned to death by the army or the local police for entertainment sake!
Pan-arabia "the caliphate" however does know "HAMMA RULES" ask anybody that can read ( about 10%) in any fly infested hellhole arab country you pick and they will tell you all about Hamma, a Syrian city of 100,000 that was totally destroyed in 1980's by the Syrian army, because of terrorist activity by "The Muslim Brotherhood" the pioneering movement behind the present fanatics.
Please Mr. President bitch slap Damascus so hard that they too will remember. Hell they'll be too afraid to even look in the direction of the stick.
Unless I'm misreading the current state of affairs entirely, GWB has a date with destiny. If he surrenders our nation to Mexico and suddenly lets 25 million people here illegally become voters, he had better give his new citizens a country that doesn't take any crap from Mexico City,or the "fanatics" in the ME.
I'll guarantee that if America laid down the "law" in Damascus there would no longer be any talk of growing up as a Mexican-American, Black-American, Indian-American etc,,, Just give us one country we can be proud of because she's strong and she fights to protect freedom loving people worldwide.
You call that Hamma business cold blooded Mr. Assad, I'll show you what a righteous Western democracy can play in the sandbox like Mister! I'm so tired of being called the "Big Satan" for all these long years,I need to step into my character before I lose the role.
By the way Muhammad, Bow down and face Washington DC when you say that Buddy!
Awesome, you gave me the chills
I've always said this war has nothing to do with Sadaam, nothing to do with freeing Iraq people, nothing to do with conventional winning of a conventional war.
It's always been about:
1. Create a battlespace of our choosing far from NYC and San Diego.
2. Make it a geography so valuable that the thousands of terrorists (rats) in hiding world wide will want to come out of hiding to fight there and die, there. Not sneak out in NYC and Chicago to wage war here. (Cheeze in the trap)
As soon as we pull out of the region, where do you think the remaining and newly recruited terrorists are going to go to wage their war?
The war must stay the course for at least a generation. Or until the taste of freedom and peace takes hold like it did in the Soviet block to win the cold war.
I like your posting,I like it a lot !!!
Only GOD can stop Iran. Now He may use military action or He may do something supernatural.
This is true!!
In that case I hope we have contingency plans for a peaceful relationship with a nuclear Iran...
If I'm not mistaken, the available options are:
2. Die - Not by the hands of those who promote the "Religion of Peace" as a death wish.
Jesus Christ will be the path of my destiny even if a weapon has to be pried out of my cold stiff hand by an evil entity.
Exactly. So many of us here forget the God factor. He has the final say. I'm not going to agonize over Islam or any other religion that wants to kill us. We'll die when and where God says we will. Period.
Absolutely agree! And some 'field' diplomacy is coming right up!
Merry Christmas, tet68!..................FRegards
James Burnham. One of his "laws," and it's a good one, as is Mark Steyn's recently coined phrase, "least worst option."
With Iran, however, there are still alternatives, such as fomenting increased unrest among the students who heckled Ahneedajihad this week.
Also, Israel embarking on a military strike against Egypt would have the unpleasant side-effect of playing into the the Mullahcracy's hands, and generally uniting the ME region against all non-Islamics. A nice collection of targets, perhaps, but not a pretty problem to try to solve.
It's entirely possible that Damascus becomes uninhabitable, but if it does so it's because Israel reaches its last extremity in its final war.
I'm sure you meant Iran and not Egypt.
I did ... sheesh. I have no idea why I said "Egypt."
I've done that a few times myself where there seems to be a disconnect between what the mind is thinking and what the hands are typing.
Second the motion, call for the question..
You're absolutely right.
We've lost sight of this.
I fully agree with each point. Iran & Syria have been instigating the Shi'ite card in Iraq, while the Saudi Wahhabists fund various Sunni terrorist groups in their ongoing inter-Islamic war.
The main problem is our troops and that of the Coalition, are all 'infidel' targets of choice for murder from both fanatical sects of Islam in Iraq, instigated into civil war by 'outsiders' (Sunni & Shi'ite ruled Opec mega-funded powers).
One geostrategic & economic card we need to be playing, if we are not already, is continued 'assistance' directed at dis Iranian based ethnic groups strife targeting the Tehran dictatorship coupled with disruptions of the very fuel bankrolling the Mullah's police state, including funding Hezballah, Hamas and Shi'ite terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan and beyond.
Let's face it Iranian agents have been sabotaging Iraq's oil infrastructure while Iranian crude oil and natural gas continues flowing to overseas customers, raking in the more billions (Euros) for Iran's global jihad.
The bulk of Iran's land based oil reserves are located in southwestern Khuzestan Provence running along the southeastern border of Iraq. Although much of Iran's oil wealth comes from Khuzestan Province, an inordinate share of that wealth goes to Tehran and other parts of the country, which makes for ticked off non-Persian Khuzestan population.
Much of the population in Khuzestan Provence is Arab, fed up with the continuous brutality & employment discrimination by the jihadist Persian rulers based rather far away in Iran's northern capitol city of Tehran.
All of Iran's ethnic minorities -- Arabs, Azeris, Baluchis, Kurds, or Turkmen -- have grievances that relate to the regime's harsh policies. Just the Iranian Arab population alone amounts to approximately 2.07 million (3 percent of the total population of 69 million). These non-Persian minorities must be supported by Allied forces stationed in Iraq & Afghanistan coupled with additional forms of assistance through other external sources, included giving various types of aid to Iranian Persians living/based in the US/UK/Canada & elsewhere who want the Mullahs overthrown, with the end goal of undoing the economic backwardness of the horrific, war torn Khomeini era which began in 1979, and that of his ruling nuclear weapons crazed fanatical followers.
I believe one of the reasons the Taliban were toppled, in addition to 9-11, was Afghanistan is directly on Iran's eastern border, plus the future utilization old Soviet airbases which could be quickly modernized, as has been the case in Herat, plus other air bases all over Afghanistan.
Saddam's dictatorship fell second, thus surrounding Iran on three fronts, including her long southern coastline with the Persian Gulf were Allied navies patrol, awaiting orders, hopefully in near future to take out Ahmadinejad and his entire rat pack.
Origin of the name Khuzestan The name Khuzestan, which means "The Land of the Khuzi" (see Dehkhoda), refers to the original inhabitants of this province, the Khuzi people. The name Ahvaz also has the same origin as the name Khuzestan. (ibid.)
"The province, however, has also been called Arabistan or Arabestan at times, particularly starting during the reign of Tahmasp I in the 16th century, after the Arab Muhammad ibn Falah, leader of the Msha'sha'iya, initiated a wave of attacks on Khuzestan in AD 1440, leading to a gradual increase in the Arab population of Khuzestan. (See , ,  and . Also see  under "Al-Ahwaz (Arabistan)".) "
Historically Khuzestan is what historians refer to as ancient Elam, whose capital was in Susa, and in previous ages... Source
Another reason for bring down the jihadist Mullah controlled régime is the U.S. Dollar. If key Opec members of the expanded Axis of Evil continue as well as entice others to join their anti-USD, pro-Euro crusade 2007 will be a very bearish year for the USD, yet for bullish for the Euro.
"The toughest thing, however, is to convince the American people and much of the world that it's necessary."
More insane anti-American bashing Ahmadinejad including ultra-rash actions from Tehran just might sway sufficient numbers in the American polls allowing for a green light to do what should have already been accomplished.
As our elected officials drone & debate, Israel might be required to take prompt steps to guarantee her very national survival, similar to the air attack on Saddam's French built Osirik nuclear facility in 1981. In Iran's case the objectives are multiple and some underground hardened sites.
It's far better if the present Coalition d undertakes this necessary endevour with air and sea power - preferably real soon.