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Court rules samples seized from steroids testing can be used [baseball players]
AP ^ | Dec 27 2006

Posted on 12/27/2006 12:02:38 PM PST by george wythe

A federal appeals court has ruled that evidence seized from Major League Baseball's steroids testing labs can be used by the government in its investigation of performance enhancing drugs.

The ruling today involves computer results of urine samples that were seized as part of the government's investigation into illegal steroid use among professional athletes.

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The results were to be kept secret and most of the samples were destroyed.

But the labs stopped destroying the samples when the grand jury demanded access to the results from ten players. When authorities raided the labs for those samples, they seized all the remaining samples as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at kget.com ...


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1 posted on 12/27/2006 12:02:40 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

Uh oh, there goes another Word's Series.


2 posted on 12/27/2006 12:09:26 PM PST by rhombus
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To: george wythe

Time for Bonds to go yard. Prison yard.


3 posted on 12/27/2006 12:14:46 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Sounds like a player's strike in '07


4 posted on 12/27/2006 12:27:25 PM PST by hkp123
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To: george wythe
The unions forced the keeping secret this information as they demand fans pay outrageous fortunes to watch drug addicts to play a game.
5 posted on 12/27/2006 12:31:56 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: george wythe
What is this 'baseball' you talk about, I've never heard of it!

Is it something like the girls game 'rounders'?

6 posted on 12/27/2006 12:35:31 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale

You hit a ball with a stick and run around in a circle. Sounds exciting, eh?


7 posted on 12/27/2006 12:37:20 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: george wythe
I can not understand why the government is even remotely concerned about this. The rules for playing Baseball are up to the promoter of the game, just as different acts in a circus are assigned to the various rings by the circus promoter. If the public wants to enjoy either show, they can purchase their tickets. If someone wants to use steroids before sticking his head in the lions mouth, fine I could care less. If another performer wants to use steroids before swinging his bat, same thing, I really do not care.

For taxpayer funds to be used fretting over a performance in an entertainment show, is an insult to taxpayers. If folks don't like the way the promoters staged a circus, they should find another circus.

8 posted on 12/27/2006 12:49:59 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mark was here

Bravo Zulu, brother!!


9 posted on 12/27/2006 1:02:56 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: george wythe
What does the gubbmint have to do with professional athletes?

How about drug/alcohol checks for all the senators and congressmen (oops, congresspersons)? Huh?

Why are taxpayer dollars being wasted on this when so many "elected officials" get away with screwing us day after day?

I'm going to vote them all out!...."yeah...that's the ticket..."

FEH!

FMCDH(BITS)

10 posted on 12/27/2006 2:12:12 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Mark was here
Exactly. See#10.

FMCDH(BITS)

11 posted on 12/27/2006 2:13:50 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Mark was here
"If folks don't like the way the promoters staged a circus, they should find another circus."

Okay, how about all the performance records that were broken by the drug-addicted "entertainers" of today?

Is it appropriate that the "NEW" records of these non-natural "performers" should supplant those of players who were working only with their God-given natural talent?

12 posted on 12/27/2006 2:16:37 PM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1
Is it appropriate that the "NEW" records of these non-natural "performers" should supplant those of players who were working only with their God-given natural talent?

God and the rest of the fans are going to have to put some asterisks in their record books.

This is a burden for the fans to express their displeasure with in the market place, it is not a mater for the government to be setting the rules for a game.

Could Congress pass a law demanding that any bowler who gets more than 8 pins gets to score 10?

13 posted on 12/27/2006 2:34:08 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mark was here

Let's see: if you break Federal laws, the Federal Government doesn't get to prosecute you; is that your argument?????


14 posted on 12/27/2006 2:48:56 PM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1
Let's see: if you break Federal laws, the Federal Government doesn't get to prosecute you; is that your argument?????

Try again. The Federal Government has no business regulating the play of a game. If fans do not like the way the game goes, they can spend their money elsewhere. If a player steals second base, the government should not charge the player with a felony, (as long as he puts it back).

15 posted on 12/27/2006 2:56:30 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: george wythe

Whew, I sure am glad the .GOV is spending taxpayer monies on this endeavour.


16 posted on 12/27/2006 2:56:39 PM PST by xrp (Republicans Message: Vote for us, we suck less than Democrats.)
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To: Mark was here
Try again.

If players use illegal substances, on OR off the field, they are subject to penalties under all available laws.

Sport of choice is not an issue; law is.

17 posted on 12/27/2006 2:59:39 PM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1
If players use illegal substances, on OR off the field, they are subject to penalties under all available laws.

Steroid use is legal, if the Promoters do not want their actors to use steroids, it should be in their contracts.

Steroids do have legitimate uses, and help people. They should not be made illegal because it messes up some silly record book.

18 posted on 12/27/2006 3:05:21 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mark was here
"Steroids are illegal in the United States unless prescribed by a doctor for a known medical condition. But they are easily obtained, most commonly over the counter at pharmacies in Mexico and other Latin American countries. Former major leaguer Chad Curtis, who retired after last season, estimated that 40 to 50 percent of major league ballplayers use steroids -- sometimes supplemented with joint-strengthening human growth hormone -- to suddenly become stronger and faster.

Illegal steroid use (aka, "not prescribed by a doctor for a known medical condition") IS ILLEGAL. Now, with anyone easily finding a "doctor" to prescribe (ILLEGALLY) for pure performance enhancement and then denying its illegality is purely Clintonian.

Promoters IN BASEBALL have not been able to ban steroids for two reasons: UNIONS and MONEY.

To claim the use by athletes of steroids is "legal" is to ignore common sense.

19 posted on 12/27/2006 3:18:50 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Mark was here

Ummmmmmmmm ...... illegal drug traffic within our borders?


20 posted on 12/28/2006 4:40:40 AM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad on The Red Cross.)
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To: nothingnew

Add college professors to the list. lol


21 posted on 12/28/2006 4:48:31 AM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: Mark was here

MLB exists only because the Government lets it. The owners can give up their anti-trust exemption if they want, but I wouldn't bet on it.


22 posted on 12/28/2006 9:28:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: traditional1
If players use illegal substances, on OR off the field, they are subject to penalties under all available laws.

While partially true, the feds have not requested this information to arrest players for drug use(testing positive for illegal substances is not a crime anyway). As you are probably aware, the information was sought simply in an attempt to catch Barry Bonds(and others, to a lesser extent) lying in front of the grand jury.
23 posted on 12/28/2006 9:47:56 AM PST by NorthFlaRebel
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To: NorthFlaRebel
Bonds testified in the BALCO Federal Grand Jury case, and the U.S. District Attorney's pursuit of him now is for Perjury before the Grand Jury, when he said he was not using steroids. (Reminds me of a certain lying-to-a-Grand Jury-depending on what "is....is").

Arguments about whether or not the Federal Government should pursue athletes in sports, which other posters here were flapping their gums about, have nothing to do with the investigation of Bonds and lying to a Federal Grand Jury. His use of steroids, purely based on the observation of his statistics/physical characteristics are consistent with use of performance-enhancing drugs. To have the records of previous sports athletes who set records WITHOUT the use of illegal drugs is to cheapen their memories.

That's my beef with drug-enhanced athletic performance, and the Liberal interpretation of "if it feels good, do it" and "whatever it takes" are consistent with looking the other way. If we want to keep things relevant and records to be apples and apples, then the rules of the game should be equal for all, consistently, including playing without doping....

24 posted on 12/28/2006 11:08:13 AM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1

Oh, I don't disagree at all. I think I mistakenly infered that you were saying the Feds had reason to ask for this simply because it involved "illegal substances". I was a huge baseball fan from the mid 80's through mid-90's, but lost just about all interest due to strikes and steroids.


25 posted on 12/28/2006 11:51:55 AM PST by NorthFlaRebel
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To: NorthFlaRebel
I lost interest after the strike, too, and due to the Players' Union dictating terms the superstars will accept to be paid millions for a sport, the Great American Game has become the great American business.

The role models for kids growing up were baseball players, etc., but that's long gone, too, as the mentality today is not considerate of anyone but one's self when the money is THAT big.

26 posted on 12/28/2006 12:48:47 PM PST by traditional1
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