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Centennial - the Little Airport That Could ( Not just snow removal )
Rocky Mountain News ^ | December 27, 2006 | Alan Gathright

Posted on 12/27/2006 1:45:28 PM PST by george76

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To: ops33

Can staff be cross trained for snow removal ?

It seems that some opportunities exist to train inactive staff to operate the less complicated equipment ( with proper training in advance ) during such an event ?


21 posted on 12/27/2006 6:56:18 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Very probably, I was only trying to point out how snow removal, regardless of what airport, is very difficult. However, I did attend a conference on snow removal where a representative from Buffalo, NY (which gets a lot of snow) said the key to snow removal is equipment, personnel, training, and a good plan. That works at any airport.


22 posted on 12/27/2006 6:58:08 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I bet that the general aviation pilots, clients, and the many bigs that use Centennial would not put up with the DIA management style.

This attitude would only exist at a DUmmie managed operation :

"I don't know why we would do anything differently," DIA spokesman Chuck Cannon said when asked about plans to handle another major storm bearing down on the Front Range that might hit Thursday...


23 posted on 12/27/2006 7:03:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Of course. At my airport the snow removal crews were the same workers who mowed the grass, repaired the lights, fixed the pavements, etc. In fact, because of overtime, many of the airport workers volunteer for snow removal.


24 posted on 12/27/2006 7:06:14 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: CedarDave; KeyLargo

Your thoughts on why Centennial does better ?


25 posted on 12/27/2006 7:11:05 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I have no idea -- I live in an area of New Mexico that is lucky to get 6 inches for the entire winter.


26 posted on 12/27/2006 7:39:38 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: nobody in particular
Until the folks on this forum are in the position of detailing how the opening of DIA could have / should have been done better....Could you just STFU on how to address the problem....

Please....

27 posted on 12/27/2006 7:45:45 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: al baby; HOTTIEBOY; BJClinton; najida; trussell; Shyla
I yam the king of typos and mispellings

You may be the king, but they are named aftter me. Fierceisms. I know how to spell, just suck at typing.

28 posted on 12/27/2006 7:51:31 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: george76
...Your thoughts on why Centennial does better ?

Maybe cause Centennial runways equal only ~20% of DIA...
Is that accurate? You tell me...

yeah, I live in Colorado Springs and use DIA on a regular basis... for a keyboard cowboy to infer that you know how to do a better job on keeping the airport open, my proposal is to you is "how to do it better"?

Here's your opportunity...go for it....

29 posted on 12/27/2006 8:04:49 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: Fierce Allegiance

LOL...very true Fierce, be we love you in spite of your Fiercisms :)


30 posted on 12/27/2006 8:14:00 PM PST by trussell (Prayers for Tonkin)
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To: trussell

:)~!


31 posted on 12/27/2006 8:25:29 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: george76

Centennial is just another example of a well run general aviation reliever airport.

One of the looming problems though is the continued complaints from the people that have decided to move next to a working airport and cry over the fact that there is acutally airplane noise. What idiots! The city needs to prevent residential development around the airport. See:

Homes go up despite airport warning
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/stories/2003/09/15/story6.html?t=printable




Frequently Asked Questions about Centennial Airport

When did Centennial Airport open?
Centennial Airport - originally called Arapahoe County Airport - opened in May 1967 as a general aviation reliever airport for Stapleton International Airport. The airport was needed because concerned members of the Denver business community felt light aircraft were being crowded out at Stapleton Field.

At that time, the Airport’s location was considered far outside the urban area, and much of the development you see around the Airport today – the residential, commercial and retail – didn’t exist. But community leaders, as well as the business community, envisioned Centennial Airport about the same time the Denver Tech Center was being developed.Centennial continues to be the major local reliever airport for Denver International Airport, so that DIA can focus its capacity on airline operations.

Centennial consistently ranks the second busiest airport in the nation among airports that are not certified for airline services, and in the top 25 of all airports, including LAX, Chicago’s O’Hare and New York’s La Guardia.(Back)

What is the County’s role in the airport?
Arapahoe County created the airport as a department of the County in March 1963. In 1975, the County created the Arapahoe County Public Airport Authority – a separate political entity from the County - because major expansion of the Airport was imminent and required bond funding.

The Authority was created because issuance of Revenue Bonds was much simpler under the State’s Airport Authority statute than under the County’s requirements. Essentially, creating the Authority made it easier to facilitate future financing needs for the airport. With exception of a one-time $1.5 million contribution this year to repair an aging runway, the Airport does not receive funding from the County.

Essentially, the County’s role in the airport involves three things:

1. The initial act of creating the authority;
2. Appointment of members of the governing Board of Commissioners of the Authority;
3. And, insuring the continuity of Federal Sponsor Assurances in case the Authority is dissolved.

A Board of Commissioners governs the Airport and consists of 5 voting Arapahoe County representatives and 3 non-voting Douglas County representatives. Of Arapahoe County’s five representatives, three are County Commissioners.

When the Authority was created, it was empowered to issue bonds, acquire property under condemnation, charge fees, lease land, regulate use of the Airport, construct and maintain facilities, enter into contracts with the state or federal government, and pass resolutions and orders necessary for the governance and affairs of the Authority.

Arapahoe County wants to ensure the success of the airport, not only from an economic aspect, but from a safety and noise issue as well. Arapahoe County work closely with our local communities to protect the encroachment of growth, as well as steer the right types of growth around the airport, in order to ensure its future in our community. (Back)

What economic benefit does Centennial provide?
Just look at the Denver Tech Center and the area surrounding the airport. It is alive with commercial, industrial and retail development that is interdependent upon the airport. A 2003 economic impact study performed by the Colorado Division of Aeronautics indicated that Centennial Airport has a $815 million impact on the local and Colorado economy. The Airport's payroll alone is $95 million annually, which generates $239 million in direct economic activity. The study also found that Centennial ranks second behind Denver International Airport in creation of airport jobs in the state. In fact, nearly 1,900 people are employed in the Centennial Airport area. If Centennial Airport were a single employer, it would ranks as the 7th largest employer in the region right behind ATT/Comcast, Great West Life, JD Edwards, First Data, EchoStar and Quest. The airport is home to a number of Colorado's largest companies and generates a significant amount of business traffic for Denver and Colorado. The airport is used by 32 of the top 100, and seven of the top 10 Fortune 500 companies. (Back)

Why isn’t Centennial Airport privately owned?
Generally, privately owned airports only exist as small landing strips. General Aviation Airports the size of Centennial are either owned by a municipality or county - and all receive some type of federal or local funding. It is not economically feasible for an airport the size of Centennial to be privately owned. The capital requirements alone - runways, control towers, and security are too cost prohibitive for private ownership.(Back)

What are the issues surrounding the airport?
The Centennial Airport Board of Commissioners, as well as the Arapahoe County Board of County Commissioners has long stated that Centennial is, and should remain, a general aviation reliever airport for DIA. In 1993, the Airport Board banned commercial airline service with planes of 10 to 30 seats and voted again in 1997 to ban commercial passenger service of nine seats or fewer.

In response to that decision, the Federal Aviation Administration terminated Centennial's eligibility for federal Airport Improvement Program grants. At that time, the FAA maintained that when Centennial accepted prior grants, it agreed to abide by certain grant assurances. One of those assurances was that the airport remains open to all types and classes of aeronautical users. In the FAA's view, the ban on scheduled passenger service wais discriminatory to a class of users.

As a result, Centennial Airport lost approximately $1.5 million a year. That money was not operating revenue. Rather, it was used for capital and safety improvements – money that was desperately needed at the airport.To address the compliance issue, the Board of Commissioners put together a community task force to develop a solution to the funding and compliance issue. On April 11, 2002, the Board passed a resolution to:

1.

Allow scheduled passenger service of 9 seats or less
2.

Pursue legislation that would allow the airport to lawfully ban all scheduled passenger service, and
3.

Place an initiative on the the November 2002 ballot to impose a one-third mill levy on Arapahoe County residents in case the airport was not in compliance by that time.

The mill levy was not needed. On February 13, 2003, Congress approved the “0” seat rule, which means reliever airports within 25 nautical miles of major airports, like DIA, do not have to provide passenger service to be eligible for federal capital improvement funds. This legislation, was signed into law by President Bush in 2003 and will result in restarting the federal money that Centennial lost during the last several years. (Back)

http://www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Community/Airports/faq.asp




32 posted on 12/28/2006 7:43:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: george76; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...
Denver - Centennial APA
33 posted on 12/28/2006 7:58:26 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Gator101

My grandfather helped invent the first airport snow removal equipment, probably back in the 30's, but I'm not exactly sure of the date.


34 posted on 12/28/2006 9:18:07 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks.

People choose to move into areas near airports then complain that there is an airport.

The politicans also enable this mess by approving residential developments near by.


35 posted on 12/28/2006 9:30:39 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

LOL

How true, how true!


36 posted on 12/28/2006 2:40:15 PM PST by Shyla
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To: george76
Take the 325,000 number and divide by 365, yields your daily average; then divide again by 2 (Take offs and landings). Divide again by 2 and it seems there are a couple hundred A/C utilizing the strip daily.

Some are locals and some out-of-towners and some transients who drop by for whatever reason, avoiding the Hub and its fees.

A busy G/A strip no doubt......and business is good.
37 posted on 12/28/2006 6:20:27 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Thanks.

Second in the nation ?


38 posted on 12/28/2006 6:27:42 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Broomfield Airport is also getting more traffic in recent years. I'm about five miles away, and the number of low-flying jets is quite noticeable.

I'm not sure why there's been an uptick. Perhaps more businesses are going private charter to avoid security hassles, or perhaps there's just more business being done in that area, which has built up in the past decade.

39 posted on 12/29/2006 10:49:23 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Also avoiding hubs would save time, money, and hassles for business people going to a factory or other work site.

If there is a group traveling together, they could have a conference on the way.


40 posted on 12/29/2006 11:01:49 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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