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Rethinking Kwanzaa: Jerry Falwell says America has been duped into accepting illegitimate holiday
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 12/30/06 | Jerry Falwell

Posted on 12/30/2006 2:34:47 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Of course you don't care. I am not surprised that you don't want your lies to be challenged. You are exibiting the true mark of a coward who has lost an argument in public.

Go away and pull more "facts" and "archeological evidence" out of your backside AKA your source.

Your only purpose on this tread is akin to that of a pig, i.e., foolishly throwing dung on yourself. I kinda like the sorry spectacle though. Can you do it again by replying to this post?


101 posted on 12/30/2006 7:21:37 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: Dudoight
Kwanza is pure BS and will eventually fade away. (My emphasis)

Not as long as the dufus in the white house gives it credibility by acknowledging its celebration.

102 posted on 12/30/2006 7:46:01 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Solitar

You are correct about Christmas, but incorrect about Easter.

The celebration of the birth of Christ was randomly selected because his actual birthdate was unknown. Indeed, many Christian sects give only a secular nod towards Christmas.

However, there is no randomness in the date Easter is celebrated. Christians have convened hundreds (thousands) of times to pour over the records and scriptures to determine the historical accuracy and timing of the events leading up to the Resurrection of Christ. Easter is tied intimately to coincide with Passover and attempts to stay as closely timed with luna events as possible.


103 posted on 12/30/2006 7:57:39 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Don't like Kwanzaa? Fine. Don't observe it, don't honor it, don't do anything about it. Ignore it.

That's good advice.

I'll take it.

:*))

104 posted on 12/30/2006 8:01:57 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: indcons
Why doesn't he do anything about his master's (Rev. Moon) claims that he is the second coming of Christ?

Moon is a Baptist Master?

I have a lot of Baptist friends. I'll bet a pretty that none of them are aware of this fact.

105 posted on 12/30/2006 8:06:59 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: JohnHuang2

I'll never cease to be amazed at the foolish gullibility of modern education officials.

Repeat loud and often.....................


106 posted on 12/30/2006 8:08:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: JohnHuang2

It's CPT Obvious!!


107 posted on 12/30/2006 8:19:09 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"Ignore it." Good grief. How can I ignore it when Kwanzaa is celebrated in my children's school, explained on the nightly news, highlighted on commercials, lauded on the airways and tantalized at the store? It gets more face time than Donald trump.


108 posted on 12/30/2006 8:19:25 AM PST by takbodan (.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Another source of amazement is the concept of those who hold candlelight vigils (yet another example of religious ceremony) for heinous murderers about to be executed, a large number of whom think it is acceptable to murder an unborn child without the benefit of a trial.

Therein lies the problem: People inherently recognize the existence of God and have a deep inner need to worship. Because of secular education and a lack of an alternative, some folks grasp at any opportunity to defend humanity (the closest they can come to recognizing a supreme power), no matter how erroneous the defense may be.

To further add to the confusion, we have some radical isolationist leaders that preach the power of life of one group vs another, ie black and white supremacists.

Why choose to defend a murderer over an unborn babe? Because, not only does secularism teach so many to believe only in what can be seen and held, but because secularist teachers also intensely counter intuition with anti-life brainwashing in regard to unborn children.

Combining the need to worship the life force (as they see it) with the confusion over who is deserving of life vs. the definition of "Life", we get idiots holding candlelight vigils for murderers.


This is of course a generalization that does not apply to individual groups, such as Catholics, who would protest ALL human intervention on life--abortion and capital punishment included.
109 posted on 12/30/2006 8:21:04 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Solitar

these are ALL proven facts.
the problem is that the internet is controlled by the Illuminati, and they want us to believe lies!
these is no limit to the evil plans of the Illuminati!


110 posted on 12/30/2006 8:35:42 AM PST by drhogan
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To: usslsm51

i am beginning to realize that there is no objective evidence that I exist. i am only going to celebrate fake holidays from now on.
the crucial question is: how do we distinguish a fake holiday from a real holiday?


111 posted on 12/30/2006 8:38:30 AM PST by drhogan
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To: indcons

Jerry Falwell is Baptist....how you got Rev. Moon in there is strange.

Rev. Moon is a cult leader. geesh


112 posted on 12/30/2006 8:38:48 AM PST by ladyellen
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To: JohnHuang2
I think The Rev.Falwell is incorrect.Kwanzaa is not a Holiday recognized by any state or the Federal government.

It may be recognized in some minor minority communities but it's Not a recognized Holiday.
113 posted on 12/30/2006 8:40:27 AM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: ladyellen

You are obviously not aware that Rev. Moon finances Falwell's Liberty enterprises.

See http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Moonies/jerry_falwell_and_myung_moon.htm

I have more sources if you want to see them.


114 posted on 12/30/2006 8:42:49 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: TaxRelief
However, there is no randomness in the date Easter is celebrated. Christians have convened hundreds (thousands) of times to pour over the records and scriptures to determine the historical accuracy and timing of the events leading up to the Resurrection of Christ. Easter is tied intimately to coincide with Passover and attempts to stay as closely timed with luna events as possible.

The ecclesiastical rules are: Easter falls on the first Sunday following the first ecclesiastical full moon that occurs on or after March 21 (the day of the ecclesiastical vernal equinox). This particular ecclesiastical full moon is the 14th day of a tabular lunation (new moon).

That's a very pagan way of setting a celebration date -- which can be any Sunday from March 22 to April 25 inclusive. And the ecclesiastical full moon is not the same as the real full moon. It might not be random but it sure seems that way: plus or minus two and a half weeks.

Why not just celebrate it on the real Vernal Equinox?

115 posted on 12/30/2006 8:43:21 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: whipitgood

"Why people insist on following their forefathers' blind ignorance is something I don't understand."
______________________________

if we don't follow our forefathers' blind ignorance, WHOSE blind igorance SHOULD we follow?


116 posted on 12/30/2006 8:43:27 AM PST by drhogan
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To: Ole Okie

Please see #114 on this thread. Moon and Falwell have LOTS in common (much more than they let out).


117 posted on 12/30/2006 8:44:55 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: drhogan
these are ALL proven facts.

Ah huh. How come nobody has shown proof other than some unsubstantiated statements in a book written centuries after the events?

the problem is that the internet is controlled by the Illuminati, and they want us to believe lies! these is no limit to the evil plans of the Illuminati!

Are you implying ALL of the internet, even this forum? Or is this forum in a special protected class secure from any Illuminati?

118 posted on 12/30/2006 8:49:30 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Solitar

All your Illuminati are belong to us /sarc


119 posted on 12/30/2006 8:52:36 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: Solitar

The Resurrection celebration is tied intimately to Passover which is tied to the Luna cycle. It would be considered Pagan only if there were actual worship of alternative gods.


120 posted on 12/30/2006 8:54:54 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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