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Rethinking Kwanzaa: Jerry Falwell says America has been duped into accepting illegitimate holiday
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 12/30/06 | Jerry Falwell

Posted on 12/30/2006 2:34:47 AM PST by JohnHuang2

We hear a lot these days about a divided nation. So I began wondering this week why our nation has begun to embrace a relatively new celebration known as Kwanzaa, which is not as innocent as it appears on the surface.

Launched in 1966, Kwanzaa is celebrated for seven days, beginning Dec. 26. The weeklong festival was introduced by Ron Karenga (aka Ron Everett), a black author and Marxist devotee, who has a very dubious history. Mr. Karenga's Marxist roots should be a warning signal right off the bat, but there's more to be concerned about here.

In 1969, on the campus of UCLA, Mr. Karenga led a student group known as United Slaves, which, along with students in the equally radical Black Panthers (the rivals of United Slaves), actually attended classes with loaded weapons.

David Horowitz, in his book "Radical Son," noted that Black Panther John Higgins was then "murdered – along with Al 'Bunchy' Carter – on the UCLA campus by members of Ron Karenga's organization." Later, female members of the United Slaves said they were tortured by United Slaves members, all at Mr. Karenga's command.

Members of the organization have since reported being beaten and tortured by Mr. Karenga and his minions. He actually was convicted of felonious assault and false imprisonment in 1971 and sentenced to prison. At his trial, a psychiatrist's report declared: "This man now represents a picture which can be considered both paranoid and schizophrenic with hallucinations and elusions, inappropriate affect, disorganization and impaired contact with the environment."

But the story gets more bizarre.

When he was released from prison, Mr. Karenga had earned his doctorate degree and soon was appointed to the Black Studies Department at California State University, Long Beach.

I'll never cease to be amazed at the foolish gullibility of modern education officials.

Our nation, I believe, has also been naïve in accepting Kwanzaa without examining its roots and its founder. In our modern quest to embrace multiculturalism and diversity at all costs, I believe we are being duped by the founder of Kwanzaa.

I've watched several news reports on Kwanzaa in recent days and none of them have mentioned the dark history of its founder or its Marxist pedigree. The reports have simply noted that Kwanzaa is a weeklong celebration rooted in African traditions, and even that is untrue.

Mr. Karenga himself admits that Kwanzaa is not fundamentally African, telling the Washington Post in 1978, "People think it's African, but it's not."

In a recent column, Ann Coulter, never one to mince words, said of Kwanzaa: "[It] is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism." She added, "When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy underlying Kwanzaa, from 'classical Marxism,' he essentially explained that under Kawaida, we also hate whites."

Listen, I love learning about other cultures. At Liberty University, where I am the chancellor, this year we welcomed students from 83 nations among our 10,000-plus resident students. Further, nearly 14 percent of our student body is African-American. I truly enjoy meeting these students, hearing their stories and celebrating their life goals. It is fascinating to learn about others' customs and ways of life.

But I cannot accept Kwanzaa as a legitimate American holiday. It is corrupt and wholly anti-American. There is danger in it.

I join with Ann Coulter in celebrating Galatians 3:28, which notes that the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ is available to all, no matter their race, color, background or heritage. It says, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. …" (NKJV).

Therein lies real diversity and true freedom for all.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturalmarxism; hatespeech; junkarcheology; kwanza; kwanzaa; kwanzaaa; kwanzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa; marxism; moseswasapharoah; revisionisthistory
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Of course you don't care. I am not surprised that you don't want your lies to be challenged. You are exibiting the true mark of a coward who has lost an argument in public.

Go away and pull more "facts" and "archeological evidence" out of your backside AKA your source.

Your only purpose on this tread is akin to that of a pig, i.e., foolishly throwing dung on yourself. I kinda like the sorry spectacle though. Can you do it again by replying to this post?


101 posted on 12/30/2006 7:21:37 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: Dudoight
Kwanza is pure BS and will eventually fade away. (My emphasis)

Not as long as the dufus in the white house gives it credibility by acknowledging its celebration.

102 posted on 12/30/2006 7:46:01 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Solitar

You are correct about Christmas, but incorrect about Easter.

The celebration of the birth of Christ was randomly selected because his actual birthdate was unknown. Indeed, many Christian sects give only a secular nod towards Christmas.

However, there is no randomness in the date Easter is celebrated. Christians have convened hundreds (thousands) of times to pour over the records and scriptures to determine the historical accuracy and timing of the events leading up to the Resurrection of Christ. Easter is tied intimately to coincide with Passover and attempts to stay as closely timed with luna events as possible.


103 posted on 12/30/2006 7:57:39 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Don't like Kwanzaa? Fine. Don't observe it, don't honor it, don't do anything about it. Ignore it.

That's good advice.

I'll take it.

:*))

104 posted on 12/30/2006 8:01:57 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: indcons
Why doesn't he do anything about his master's (Rev. Moon) claims that he is the second coming of Christ?

Moon is a Baptist Master?

I have a lot of Baptist friends. I'll bet a pretty that none of them are aware of this fact.

105 posted on 12/30/2006 8:06:59 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: JohnHuang2

I'll never cease to be amazed at the foolish gullibility of modern education officials.

Repeat loud and often.....................


106 posted on 12/30/2006 8:08:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: JohnHuang2

It's CPT Obvious!!


107 posted on 12/30/2006 8:19:09 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"Ignore it." Good grief. How can I ignore it when Kwanzaa is celebrated in my children's school, explained on the nightly news, highlighted on commercials, lauded on the airways and tantalized at the store? It gets more face time than Donald trump.


108 posted on 12/30/2006 8:19:25 AM PST by takbodan (.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Another source of amazement is the concept of those who hold candlelight vigils (yet another example of religious ceremony) for heinous murderers about to be executed, a large number of whom think it is acceptable to murder an unborn child without the benefit of a trial.

Therein lies the problem: People inherently recognize the existence of God and have a deep inner need to worship. Because of secular education and a lack of an alternative, some folks grasp at any opportunity to defend humanity (the closest they can come to recognizing a supreme power), no matter how erroneous the defense may be.

To further add to the confusion, we have some radical isolationist leaders that preach the power of life of one group vs another, ie black and white supremacists.

Why choose to defend a murderer over an unborn babe? Because, not only does secularism teach so many to believe only in what can be seen and held, but because secularist teachers also intensely counter intuition with anti-life brainwashing in regard to unborn children.

Combining the need to worship the life force (as they see it) with the confusion over who is deserving of life vs. the definition of "Life", we get idiots holding candlelight vigils for murderers.


This is of course a generalization that does not apply to individual groups, such as Catholics, who would protest ALL human intervention on life--abortion and capital punishment included.
109 posted on 12/30/2006 8:21:04 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Solitar

these are ALL proven facts.
the problem is that the internet is controlled by the Illuminati, and they want us to believe lies!
these is no limit to the evil plans of the Illuminati!


110 posted on 12/30/2006 8:35:42 AM PST by drhogan
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To: usslsm51

i am beginning to realize that there is no objective evidence that I exist. i am only going to celebrate fake holidays from now on.
the crucial question is: how do we distinguish a fake holiday from a real holiday?


111 posted on 12/30/2006 8:38:30 AM PST by drhogan
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To: indcons

Jerry Falwell is Baptist....how you got Rev. Moon in there is strange.

Rev. Moon is a cult leader. geesh


112 posted on 12/30/2006 8:38:48 AM PST by ladyellen
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To: JohnHuang2
I think The Rev.Falwell is incorrect.Kwanzaa is not a Holiday recognized by any state or the Federal government.

It may be recognized in some minor minority communities but it's Not a recognized Holiday.
113 posted on 12/30/2006 8:40:27 AM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: ladyellen

You are obviously not aware that Rev. Moon finances Falwell's Liberty enterprises.

See http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Moonies/jerry_falwell_and_myung_moon.htm

I have more sources if you want to see them.


114 posted on 12/30/2006 8:42:49 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: TaxRelief
However, there is no randomness in the date Easter is celebrated. Christians have convened hundreds (thousands) of times to pour over the records and scriptures to determine the historical accuracy and timing of the events leading up to the Resurrection of Christ. Easter is tied intimately to coincide with Passover and attempts to stay as closely timed with luna events as possible.

The ecclesiastical rules are: Easter falls on the first Sunday following the first ecclesiastical full moon that occurs on or after March 21 (the day of the ecclesiastical vernal equinox). This particular ecclesiastical full moon is the 14th day of a tabular lunation (new moon).

That's a very pagan way of setting a celebration date -- which can be any Sunday from March 22 to April 25 inclusive. And the ecclesiastical full moon is not the same as the real full moon. It might not be random but it sure seems that way: plus or minus two and a half weeks.

Why not just celebrate it on the real Vernal Equinox?

115 posted on 12/30/2006 8:43:21 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: whipitgood

"Why people insist on following their forefathers' blind ignorance is something I don't understand."
______________________________

if we don't follow our forefathers' blind ignorance, WHOSE blind igorance SHOULD we follow?


116 posted on 12/30/2006 8:43:27 AM PST by drhogan
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To: Ole Okie

Please see #114 on this thread. Moon and Falwell have LOTS in common (much more than they let out).


117 posted on 12/30/2006 8:44:55 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: drhogan
these are ALL proven facts.

Ah huh. How come nobody has shown proof other than some unsubstantiated statements in a book written centuries after the events?

the problem is that the internet is controlled by the Illuminati, and they want us to believe lies! these is no limit to the evil plans of the Illuminati!

Are you implying ALL of the internet, even this forum? Or is this forum in a special protected class secure from any Illuminati?

118 posted on 12/30/2006 8:49:30 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Solitar

All your Illuminati are belong to us /sarc


119 posted on 12/30/2006 8:52:36 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: Solitar

The Resurrection celebration is tied intimately to Passover which is tied to the Luna cycle. It would be considered Pagan only if there were actual worship of alternative gods.


120 posted on 12/30/2006 8:54:54 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Solitar

"Are you implying ALL of the internet, even this forum? Or is this forum in a special protected class secure from any Illuminati?"
_______________________________________________

Even my posts are probably being controlled by the Illuminati!


121 posted on 12/30/2006 8:54:55 AM PST by drhogan
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To: TaxRelief
However, there is no randomness in the date Easter is celebrated.

Why does Eastern Christianity's dates for Easter not agree with Western Christianity's dates. They may be the same or over a month different! In Eastern Christianity, Easter falls between April 4 and May 8 between 1900 and 2100 based on the Gregorian date.

At least Kwanzaa has a set date.

122 posted on 12/30/2006 8:56:23 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Solitar
Why not just celebrate it on the real Vernal Equinox?

(Western Roman) Easter is always celebrated on a Sunday.

123 posted on 12/30/2006 9:12:26 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief
(Western Roman) Easter is always celebrated on a Sunday.

So start every New Year on a Sunday on the first day of spring or the vernal equinox. Thirteen months of 4 weeks each plus one oddball day (two in leap years) would make this possible. Then you could put Christmas on a Sunday in midwinter -- and it would ALWAYS be on the same date.

124 posted on 12/30/2006 9:30:53 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Ole Okie
That's good advice.

Works for me. If Falwell hadn't cranked out this POS then I wouldn't have been able to tell you when Kwanzaa started if my life depended on it.

125 posted on 12/30/2006 9:32:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Don Joe
What country do YOU think this is?

One with the freedom to worship how one wants, celebrate whatever culture one wants, and observe any holiday they want. Silly me.

126 posted on 12/30/2006 9:34:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: JohnHuang2

The creation of this "holiday" merely illustrates the truth of the statement "three weeks of media treatment and the truth is recognized by all."


127 posted on 12/30/2006 9:35:48 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: takbodan
How can I ignore it when Kwanzaa is celebrated in my children's school, explained on the nightly news, highlighted on commercials, lauded on the airways and tantalized at the store?

I have no idea where you live, but out here in America's heartland, Kansas City, 26th largest television market in the country, I haven't seen one ad in the stores, haven't seen it on the nightly news, haven't heard it on the radio, haven't seen it on TV. I guess we're plumb backwards.

128 posted on 12/30/2006 9:36:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: kb2614
"So, have a merry Christmas, a happy Hanukkah, a kwaazy Kwanza, a tip-top Tet, and a solemn, dignified, Ramadan. And now a word from MY god, our sponsors!" ~ Krusty :)
129 posted on 12/30/2006 9:38:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The most disgusting part of the whole "Kwanzaa" charade is that Presidents issue annual proclamations about it. "Understandable" political whoring or not, it makes me lose respect.
130 posted on 12/30/2006 9:42:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JohnHuang2

The Easter Bunny and St. Rudolph are deeply saddened on behalf of "real" holidays.


131 posted on 12/30/2006 9:42:36 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Miss Marple

That sounds fantastic! Sign me up.


132 posted on 12/30/2006 9:43:20 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Solitar
Are you an atheist who believes Western science (hypothesize, test, repeat...) has pretty well explained the universe? A libertarian hedonist who thinks the main moral imperative of man is to manage his sex and drugs well so he won't burn out early or get a disease?

I have no problem with your picking on people's beliefs, but what are your's so we can pick on them too?

133 posted on 12/30/2006 9:48:59 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: indcons

Rev. Moon claimed he is the second coming of Christ? Where did you see that? Are you referring to the "coronation" at the Dirksen Building?


134 posted on 12/30/2006 9:50:27 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief
Moon has quite the record when it comes to claims of the second coming.

This site "Sun Myung Moon Claims to be the Messiah" has some well-documented Moonie claims.

There's more info here: Here you are invited to discover why Rev. Dr. Sun Myung Moon was chosen by God and called by Jesus Christ to fulfill the mission of the Messiah, Savior and Lord of the Second Advent with the responsibility to establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.
135 posted on 12/30/2006 10:07:56 AM PST by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD.)
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To: BOBWADE

ping


136 posted on 12/30/2006 10:24:04 AM PST by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: JohnHuang2

The origins of this holiday aren't important, the phoniness of this holiday isn't important, what is important is how it has been embraced by the establishment and what that says about them and the system. These people aren't children, they understand the nature of this thing, they indulge it because the benefits outweigh any costs to them. Misunderstanding has nothing to do with it.


137 posted on 12/30/2006 10:53:25 AM PST by jordan8
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To: Solitar
Christmas is an illegitimate holiday.... For that matter, for similar reasons, Easter is just as illegitimate.

Not so fast my friend. The life and death of Christ is of little dispute. Just because the dates may be incorrect does not deligitimize their occurance. On the other hand (and back on the subject), Kwanzaa is totally made up from whole cloth to celebrate a culture and philosophy that never knew each other. Debate that.

138 posted on 12/30/2006 11:25:21 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: JohnHuang2

I don't think most of America even knows about, let alone celebrates, this "holiday."


139 posted on 12/30/2006 12:12:55 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SupplySider
"I have no problem with your picking on people's beliefs, but what are your's so we can pick on them too?"

Theravadan Pantheist

140 posted on 12/30/2006 12:59:08 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

No I don't think it's gaining respect. In fact, I think it's falling out of favor with the PC crowd. Here in Atlanta, I can only remember one station that has promos promoting Happy Kwazy...and that's a station that is urban in nature...


141 posted on 12/30/2006 1:02:56 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lowcountry
"The life and death of Christ is of little dispute."

Oh yes it is worthy of dispute. It is totally made up from whole cloth with threads from prior pagan mythology. Kwanzaa has as much legitimacy as Christmas.

142 posted on 12/30/2006 1:03:05 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Salamander

Woopie! I'm more excited about September....it's menopause awareness month! Yeah, we get a whole month cuz we're special!
:P


143 posted on 12/30/2006 1:07:46 PM PST by derllak
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To: Solitar
You are an idiot. Instead of belching out your ignorance, do yourself and everybody around you a favor, and learn your facts before you announce your OPINION.

There is more historical reference to the life of Jesus than there is to Socrates, Plato, Julius Ceasar and yet I bet you believe they existed.

If you really want some proof of Jesus (which I doubt you do) read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel.
Lee is a former atheist who was an investigative reporter years ago. He took his experience in investigating facts and applied it to the life of Jesus.

As far as the winter solstice and such, granted Christmas and Easter shanghai'd pagan holidays, but just because someone chooses to create a holiday to counter another doesn't disqualify it as a holiday. If I choose to celebrate Christmas, "I" choose what in the holiday I celebrate. Whether its the religious belief of the birth of Jesus, or its the secular following of Santa Claus. Pagans are still allowed to celebrate the winter solstice.

144 posted on 12/30/2006 3:23:08 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Solitar
At least Groundhog Day has a real groundhog.

Charles Darwin's birthday is February 12th.

Are you connecting the two here ?

Groundhog Day is February 2nd, not February twelvth.

But yes, Virgina, there really is a Groundhog.

145 posted on 12/30/2006 4:35:07 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Solitar
"The life and death of Christ is of little dispute."
Oh yes it is worthy of dispute. It is totally made up from whole cloth with threads from prior pagan mythology

Here is just one of the ancient historians who acknowledged the life of Christ.

Cornelius Tacitus - He was a Roman senator in the late 1st and early 2nd centuries who wrote a 16 volume series on Roman emporers. The following was quoted from his work Annals, 15:44, by Lee Strobel in The Case for Christ:

"Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty [crucifixion] during the reign of Tiberius at the hand of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome ..."

Tacitus also wrote that during Nero's reign, the emporer scapegoated "a class hated for their abominations, called Christian by the populace."

Other ancient historians and philosphers who also mention the name of Christus/Christ include Pliny the Younger, Flavius Josephus, Caius Suetonius Tranquillus, Celsus, Lucian of Samosata, and Porphyry of Tyre.

Run a Google search and you will come up with a number of quotations from the above mentioned men. To my knowledge, none of those mentioned were Christian. Some of them even wrote scathing attacks against those calling themselves Christians.

I strongly believe evidence shows Jesus of Nazareth did exist on this earth.

146 posted on 12/30/2006 4:54:55 PM PST by Genesis defender
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To: Dudoight
Kwanza is pure BS and will eventually fade away.

Of course it's not-so-pure hossheep. And, no it will never die, my brother. People are already writing dissertations upon this wonderful feast. It is now part of the Black Hustory syllabus.

Books on Kwanzaa? required reading.

147 posted on 12/30/2006 5:29:57 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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To: derllak

Are you serious?!?

I had no idea there was even a "special month" for that!

[does that mean we can get away with whatever we please for 30 days?].....;-D


148 posted on 12/30/2006 6:12:27 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Solitar

The very concept of rights is founded in religion.

Since the enlightened person is freed from any superstitions about some "God," they are free from having to worry about "rights." Only raw power counts and humans are just meat puppets for the powerful.

Look at this puppet on a string...

http://pandachute.com/videos/leaked_saddam_being_hung_video



149 posted on 12/30/2006 6:22:22 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: happygrl
Groundhog Day is February 2nd

Saint Walpurgis Day... Walpurgisnacht...

150 posted on 12/30/2006 6:25:18 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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