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Joel McNally: Affirmative action foes really want whites-first (BARF alert)
Capitol Times ^ | 30 Dec 06

Posted on 12/30/2006 6:31:11 AM PST by rellimpank

Inviting Ward Connerly to speak to a special Wisconsin legislative committee studying affirmative action is like inviting the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan to address a hearing on race relations.

Connerly is a black man who has received millions of dollars from Milwaukee's Bradley Foundation and other right-wing organizations to travel the country opposing affirmative action for black people.

(Excerpt) Read more at madison.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: wardconnerly; wisconsin
--the leading voice of Madistan's version of Pravda speaks again---
1 posted on 12/30/2006 6:31:12 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
Neither is it considered affirmative action when that same hypothetical simpleton gets elected president of the United States just like his father did.

Joel is mentally ill.

2 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:01 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rellimpank

This is one of the most offensive articles I have ever read.

To Joel McNally: You are a racist bigot. Please go rot in hell.

Quite sincerely, 'Pod.


3 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:07 AM PST by sauropod ("Men would appreciate women's minds more if they bounced gently when they walked. ")
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To: rellimpank

This was the same stuff that was said when he came to Michigan to start the referendum process. The Michigan liberal media announced it as the effective end of the world.

It was a long fight and it's not over yet, but the people won. No more societal sanctioned racism will be allowed in Michigan.

Go for it Wisconsin!


4 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:57 AM PST by kjo
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To: rellimpank

Its a nicely laid out article, which when taken as a whole admits that blacks cannot compete intellectually on an equal basis with whites, and in order to place blacks into colleges and jobs where tests are given,blacks must be given preferences.

We already knew that. Nothing has changed in the 30 or 40 years that blacks have been given these preferences, they are no more nearer to being able to compete on an equal footing today than they were 40 years ago.

Of course ,according to this writer I am sure that is also the fault of the evil White man.


5 posted on 12/30/2006 6:41:51 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002
From article: Inviting Ward Connerly to speak to a special Wisconsin legislative committee studying affirmative action is like inviting the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan to address a hearing on race relations.

ROFL. This old chestnut is the cheapest way for this racist to open his rant. How pathetic.

Let's see.. Clinton is the "first black" president (=liberals muddying the race issue), and now Ward is the "KKK"? (=liberals muddying the race issue); but liberals demand quotas based STRICTLY on "skin color".

Liberals lost the debate during the Clinton years. And like Saddam saying to the very end: "Iraq is nothing without me"... the liberals cling to the same refrain regarding race.

My, my.

6 posted on 12/30/2006 6:47:34 AM PST by Alia
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To: sauropod; facedown

--I keep track of this dimwit as a horrible example of what passes for thought on the political left---


7 posted on 12/30/2006 6:48:46 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

"Have you ever noticed that people who don't seem too bright themselves have an almost magical belief in tests?"

No, idiot, I have found the EXACT OPPOSITE to be true.

This was a disturbing look into the mind of a liberal. It is scary and disgusting.

The gist of this article is as follows:

"Blacks are dumb and whites who don't recognize that aren't being honest. Whites don't care about the plight of the dumb darkie and just want jobs for themselves. That's why they oppose affirmitive action. Enlightened people recognize how mean this is. Oh, yeah, Bush is dumb and wasn't really elected."

That's what I got from this pile of excrement.


8 posted on 12/30/2006 6:50:15 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Alia

From article: Inviting Ward Connerly to speak to a special Wisconsin legislative committee studying affirmative action is like inviting the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan to address a hearing on race relations

Which would give the most fair address on a hearing of race relations.
1. The Ku Klux Klan or
2. The Congressional Black Caucus

or this choice
1.Rev. Farrakhan
2.David Duke.

and be prepared to explain what the difference would be other than the race of the addressee.


9 posted on 12/30/2006 7:00:27 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: L98Fiero

Excellent summation.


10 posted on 12/30/2006 7:01:29 AM PST by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: sgtbono2002
Good point.

Neither of the choices supports the full tenor of the Constitution.

Duke and Farrakhan, KKK and CBlack Caucaus all demand quotas and special rights. As in "mola". 40-acres and a mule. A nation divided. Each of these individuals and groups are racialists.

I see clearly what your point is. They exist to keep alive -- RACISM. That's the motive of their existence.

11 posted on 12/30/2006 7:05:10 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

Good point?

I read it as him saying that blacks really are dumber than whites and that's just the way it is and will always be.

Sounded like a bad point to me.


12 posted on 12/30/2006 7:11:18 AM PST by Della Street
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To: sgtbono2002

Its the fault of blacks that they are underrepresented in Madison. I'm I right or am I wrong?


13 posted on 12/30/2006 7:14:48 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: rellimpank
Some major corporations have stopped job recruitment on the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus because executives say the lack of racial diversity on the campus does not properly prepare students to succeed in their companies after graduation.

Sounds like a complete fabrication.

14 posted on 12/30/2006 7:15:07 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: rellimpank
...opposing affirmative action for black people.

I believe he opposes "affirmative action" for ANYONE!

Curiously, I've heard no cries for AA in the NBA or NFL; the best qualified get the jobs and the others either get good enough or don't work in the industry. Why is that unfair in any other business? < /rhetoric >

15 posted on 12/30/2006 7:18:05 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: rellimpank

No doubt that the left is crazy.


16 posted on 12/30/2006 7:18:53 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (the left is loony)
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To: rellimpank
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT:
17 posted on 12/30/2006 7:21:25 AM PST by Vaquero (Moderate Islam is Radical Islams Trojan horse in the West)
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To: rellimpank
When people like this author lose at solitaire, they blame Whitey. Everything's about race.
18 posted on 12/30/2006 7:24:46 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: Della Street; sgtbono2002

Obviously, sgtbono2002's point went zooming over your race-focused cranial matter.


19 posted on 12/30/2006 7:31:23 AM PST by Alia
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To: Della Street; Sgt Bono

From what Sgtbono posted, he clipped first from the racist article author; then posited an interesting question. I did not pick up that Sgtbono was AGREEING with the article. Correct me, pls, if you think I'm wrong on this.


20 posted on 12/30/2006 7:36:35 AM PST by Alia
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To: rellimpank

"The fact that such historical advantages are almost exclusively conferred upon white people in our country in the case of the presidency, a perfect 43 out of 43 times is a powerful tradition for any outsider to buck."

Liberals press for minority voter registration on the assumption that minorities will vote their ethnicity, which they do, and they have no problem with that. But when whites vote their ethnicity, it's racism and must be stopped.
According to these idiots, when a white succeeds, it's racism, but when a minority succeeds, it's justice. Merit is not a factor. This is typical left wing racism that presumes that racial minorities cannot compete solely based on merit; liberals are bigots.


21 posted on 12/30/2006 7:39:25 AM PST by Spok (He who bites the hands that feeds him will lick the boot that kicks him.)
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To: KingArthur305
It's not "fault"; it's about choices.

I remember when the feminists kept hammering that "not enough women were elected to office". When the numbers were run, the numbers showed that women weren't CHOOSING to run for office.

That, didn't stop the feminists from making all kinds of disgusting and childish assertions. They asserted that women weren't "choosing" to run for office because they knew they'd be subjected to horrid, chauvinistic treatment from MALES.

IOW, Miss Cleo's magic ball rhetoric. It's crap. It amounts to feminists saying: Take us seriously, but don't ever base your opinions on the hard facts: "Elect females to office, anyway, regardless of facts." IOW, elect females but only because they have vaginas.

Truly stupid stuff!

22 posted on 12/30/2006 7:41:53 AM PST by Alia
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To: Vaquero

Its not surprizing the publication in the capital of litigious enlightenment uses mush heads like McNally to promote their agenda. Does anyone have a pix of this guy so everyone knows what he looks like, Does he really exist or is he a senior member of a legal firm feeding off the federal trough promoting litigation ?
http://www.theusmat.com


23 posted on 12/30/2006 7:44:45 AM PST by mosesdapoet
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To: Alia
He said:

"Its a nicely laid out article, which when taken as a whole admits that blacks cannot compete intellectually on an equal basis with whites, and in order to place blacks into colleges and jobs where tests are given,blacks must be given preferences.

We already knew that."

24 posted on 12/30/2006 8:40:18 AM PST by Della Street
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To: rellimpank
Here's how it works:
  1. Affirmative action does not benefit the average "inner-city" inhabitant nearly as much as it does upper-middle-class blacks
  2. In exchange for helping to keep their black brothers in thrall to the Democrat establishment, the black upper class gets to have their kids go to the head of the line to get into Ivy League schools, and into high-paying jobs in industry and government

25 posted on 12/30/2006 8:45:25 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: rellimpank

H I can't wait to read the obituary on this paper.


26 posted on 12/30/2006 8:49:41 AM PST by BW2221
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To: rellimpank

Joel McNally worked for 27 years as a reporter, feature writer and satirical columnist for The Milwaukee Journal. He also was a writer for Milwaukee Magazine and editor of The Shepherd Express in Milwaukee. His weekly columns appear in the Sheperd Express and other newspapers around the state, as well as in The Capital Times. He is a member of the board of the Milwaukee Area Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

27 posted on 12/30/2006 8:51:48 AM PST by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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To: rellimpank

You spelled "Capital Times" incorrectly.

I read the excerpt and thought, "Whoa... 'Capitol Times' is really lowering their standards. This assclown McNally sounds like a college kid who ate too much sugar." Then I clicked on the link and saw that the source was actually 'Capital Times' (no 'o'). Quite different. McNally IS a college kid who ate too much sugar.


28 posted on 12/30/2006 9:20:13 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Menehune56

Yikes! Look at that fossil! I swore he had to be a college kid, based on the quality of the writing.


29 posted on 12/30/2006 9:21:25 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Spok

30 posted on 12/30/2006 9:24:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
--Madistan's version of Pravda--

--how I really feel--

31 posted on 12/30/2006 9:31:33 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Della Street; Sgt Bono
No wonder I hadn't a clue what you were posting about. You are referring to something one poster said to another -- having nothing to do with my posting nor Sgtbono's post back to me.

To: rellimpank
Its a nicely laid out article, which when taken as a whole admits that blacks cannot compete intellectually on an equal basis with whites, and in order to place blacks into colleges and jobs where tests are given,blacks must be given preferences.

We already knew that. Nothing has changed in the 30 or 40 years that blacks have been given these preferences, they are no more nearer to being able to compete on an equal footing today than they were 40 years ago.

Of course ,according to this writer I am sure that is also the fault of the evil White man.

5 posted on 12/30/2006 9:41:51 AM EST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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***

Take your post and argument to Sgtbono and ask him what he means.

32 posted on 12/30/2006 11:51:42 AM PST by Alia
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To: mosesdapoet

Here's a pic. He's much sillier looking in real life and has the required effeminate hand gestures.

Like Conway Twitty said "He's an oldddd hippyy....."


33 posted on 12/30/2006 12:23:21 PM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: sgtyork

http://www.mptv.org/interchange/

sorry, forgot url


34 posted on 12/30/2006 12:25:18 PM PST by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first)
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To: Alia

I believe it states pretty clearly exactly what I mean.

Now please tell me why ,if blacks can compete intellectually with whites, why affirmative action is needed. If two people write the same test score why should anyone look at the race of the writer? If one writes a higher test score that is the person who should get the seat or the job, or whatever the test was taken for.

When you establish a quota you are not being fair to the person who wrote the best score by favoring the person needed to fill that quota.

It is not I who say that blacks have lower test scores. It is the proven fact. It is the basis for lowering standards to fullfill quota's.

Many blacks have a very high intellect, perhaps it is their background or parentage,or environment which gave them this knowledge and intellect,however it is not up to me to to determine what gave them this superiority over others, I can just state the fact that we have had affirmative action for at least 40 years and still the majority of blacks need it to find spots they cannot meet the regular standard to fill.

Why havent they reached the same level? I am sure we could argue that for months and still not solve the problem.

However we must ask how much longer must we turn over slots to people who are less capable, how much longer will we need affirmative action, when does it end,or does it go on forever. Will affirmative action be needed for another 40 years ? A hundred years? Much like the liberals want an exit strategy in Iraq, we want an exit strategy from affirmative action.


35 posted on 12/30/2006 12:50:57 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002; Della Street
Now please tell me why ,if blacks can compete intellectually with whites, why affirmative action is needed

No argument from me. This is what I presumed you had meant in your post #6 to the other poster. And I've seen many of the same social pathologies you describe. I do not have any idea why Della Street chose to address me when her question should have been directed to you.

However, should Della Street be lurking, perhaps yours to me will suffice in responding to her upsettedness.

From my corner of the world, when LBJ enacted his War on Poverty, it came included with preferential quotas for females, not blacks. And liberal social feminists entered and indoctrinated areas of the country with higher black density. And dumbed down their schools, encouraged abortion and libertine philosophies.

And racialists jumped on the bandwagon, joining hands with the libertine feminists to assert, perpetually "discrimination" against blacks continues! The dumbing down of education, and the tearing apart of the once VERY strong black family was the blight visited upon all of us by liberals. The repeated demands for "quotas" is just another call to bury the black family even more. And, this agenda has been supported by Democrats for a long time.

36 posted on 12/30/2006 1:02:06 PM PST by Alia
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm glad you read through the thread and caught the post I had also directed to you; but hadn't really been careful in noticing the "2002" at end of your monicker. Apologies.


37 posted on 12/30/2006 1:03:52 PM PST by Alia
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To: L98Fiero

I'm sure a nice debate and/or discussion of current events and the U.S. constitution between McNally and Connerly or another opposer of affirmative discrimination, Thomas Sowell, and we'll see who is the smartest. I guarantee you it won't be McNally.


38 posted on 12/30/2006 1:26:51 PM PST by driftless2
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To: sgtbono2002
Much like the liberals want an exit strategy in Iraq, we want an exit strategy from affirmative action.

Me too since it only serves as an extremely bitter experienent by the socialists. AA is serving as a depilitating barrier to farther social maturity. I can attest to the uselessness of this program being that I'm black and I never needed this shameful device. I realize that it is there just to prepetutate the idea of an imagined equality without anything real development.

I will fight AA every chance I get because it only makes blacks look really, really stupid when you have Asians doing pretty well in the midst of the sea of "white prevailage". If you notice many real winners that are of African decent like Condi Rice, Collin Powell and so many others you see they are discounted as not being "black" enough.

This is their problem, being "black" many times mines being loud, irrational and simple. I hate that because so called "Uncle Toms" are the people that need to be emulated not some thug(2Pac), or some singer(James Brown), or some athelite(fill in the blank).

How this level of ignorance is allowed to waterdown the school system I don't know but I hope we can slap the victim mentality out of the "hood".

39 posted on 12/30/2006 3:39:02 PM PST by KingArthur305
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To: kjo

Actually, here in MI, UofM, MSU, and WSU got together and asked for an extension before implementing Prop 2-and got it. And Detroit/Lansing are trying to argue that AA is a federal law, not state law - so technically, they don't have to comply with Prop 2 when it comes to contracting services.

Just because we voted for it/won, doesn't mean that the libs are letting go of it without a fight. We are going to be fighting this out for a long time to come -

It looks like this round of fighting is going to be a lot worse than the election was....


40 posted on 12/31/2006 10:48:34 AM PST by kcbc2001
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