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The Muslims Are Coming!
Der Spiegel ^ | December 28, 2006 | Michael Scott Moore and Jochen-Martin Gutsch

Posted on 12/31/2006 8:25:47 AM PST by NCjim

A citizens' group in Berlin turned out this week for a candlelight vigil to protest plans for a new mosque in their neighborhood. It will be the first to be built in the former East Berlin, where almost no Muslims live -- but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there.

At the end of a rundown suburban street lined with bare trees and flaking apartment facades, a small group of people hold candles or colored Glo-sticks. A few hold signs -- "Democracy yes! Caliphate no!" -- and some carry German flags.

"The mosque is supposed to go up right here," says Günter Bronner, a blustery white-haired man with glasses pushed up on his forehead who's lived in the neighborhood for 42 years. He points to a drab piece of land at the end of the street where a defunct sauerkraut factory stands. "They want to have a minaret with a muezzin who gives the call to prayer five times a day. Can you imagine? Five times a day over our rooftops."

Officials gave the go-ahead last Friday for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association to build a new mosque in Heinersdorf, an eastern neighborhood of Berlin where very few Muslims live. It will be the first mosque on the once-Communist eastern side of the city, and an organization of locals turned out Wednesday to protest. "It was pretty brazen to hand this (approval) to us as a Christmas present," quipped Joachim Swietlik, head of the citizens' group, who claims that 90 percent of Heinersdorf doesn't want the mosque.

The row highlights a Europe-wide debate about the integration of Muslims, ranging from calls for improved schooling and language teaching and tougher tests for immigrants to a discussion about whether veils and headscarves hinder the integration of Muslim women.

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadiyya; eurabia; indoctrination; islam; islamicimperialism; islamicsupremacists; islamineurope; mulitculturalism; multiculturalism; muslims
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1 posted on 12/31/2006 8:25:47 AM PST by NCjim
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but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there

Eurabia's problem in a nutshell.

2 posted on 12/31/2006 8:27:06 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: NCjim
but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there

Eurabia's problem in a nutshell.

3 posted on 12/31/2006 8:27:06 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: NCjim

State-sponsored imposition of Mulitculturalism.


4 posted on 12/31/2006 8:27:39 AM PST by Kurt_D
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To: NCjim

".. but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there."



are they not allowed to say they don't want muslims in any fashion there?

or are they like here in America and afraid to make PC police mad


5 posted on 12/31/2006 8:27:57 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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A few hold signs -- "Democracy yes! Caliphate no!" -- and some carry German flags.

Well, at least some Europeans get it.

6 posted on 12/31/2006 8:28:49 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: NCjim
...but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there.

One word--Londonistan.

7 posted on 12/31/2006 8:30:59 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: NCjim
A citizens' group in Berlin turned out this week for a candlelight vigil to protest plans for a new mosque in their neighborhood. It will be the first to be built in the former East Berlin, where almost no Muslims live

Build it; and they will come. - Tom

8 posted on 12/31/2006 8:31:06 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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to be built in the former East Berlin, where almost no Muslims live

Nothing wrong with that... its just prudent planning by the wahabists for the future

9 posted on 12/31/2006 8:32:56 AM PST by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: sure_fine

Some enterprising German should follow Craig Baker's lead and organize some friday night pig races.


10 posted on 12/31/2006 8:33:41 AM PST by Hornet19 (Be Politically Erect.)
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To: NCjim
The Muzzies may not be in East Berlin now, but they will be soon.
11 posted on 12/31/2006 8:33:59 AM PST by BW2221
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To: neodad

As to why it should be there, it is on holy Islamic ground. Or soon will be.


12 posted on 12/31/2006 8:37:32 AM PST by weegee
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No, I think most could explain it, it is their PC mentality that prevents them from explaining it. Germany along with the rest of the West must drop PC in order to survive this muslim onslaught. (Dittos for the US. We are the frog in cold water that is slowly being heated to boiling and far too many of us are oblivious.)


13 posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:01 AM PST by asp1
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To: sure_fine

Have to question the expansion of Islam into non-muslim nations at a time when those same Islamic nations prohibit the free exercise of other religions and under Islamic law there are fewer rights and protections for non-muslims.

If they were seeking political and religious persecution at home, it might be one thing to accept them with open arms. This is converting the kufir.

All religions are equal. Apparently some are more equal than others. When people wake up to the reality of Islam as a POLITICAL system of rule, it will be too late.

The KKK, Communists, and Neonazis could've circumvented a lot of political troubles by praising their founders as "religious" figures.


14 posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:39 AM PST by weegee
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"State-sponsored imposition of Mulitculturalism."

I don't have a problem with multiculturalism except when it means that one of the multis in the culture needs to destroy the others. Someday maybe there can be safe multiculturalism, if Islam will reform itself and Muslims can integrate with the world without wars and disruption.

Right now this is like planting a wolf in the nest of a rabbit. Stupid.

15 posted on 12/31/2006 8:41:42 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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Mulitculturalism? Sure, as long as they are Ethiopians, they get it! Down with the rag heads!


16 posted on 12/31/2006 8:42:18 AM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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Some enterprising German should follow Craig Baker's lead and organize some friday night pig races.



Or quickly convert that defunct sauerkraut factory into a defunct pork sausage factory, then they won't want to build there.


17 posted on 12/31/2006 8:42:20 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Free speech for thee, but not for me?)
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To: asp1

Didn't Germany prohibit Scientology?


18 posted on 12/31/2006 8:42:32 AM PST by weegee
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To: NCjim

No westerner would want to live in a country with a majority muslim population. How about a 40% muslim population? 30%? 20%?.......... I say if 51% is too many, then so is 1%.


19 posted on 12/31/2006 8:43:32 AM PST by umgud (The profound is only so to those that it is.)
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Muslims are a plague. The religion of hate. The end of Western civilization. Simple as that.


20 posted on 12/31/2006 8:45:13 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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