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Military Porn Addictions Growing
Agape Press ^ | January 5, 2007 | AFA journal

Posted on 01/08/2007 1:22:51 AM PST by balch3

(AgapePress) - An increasing number of servicemen and women are confessing to pornography addictions and most government-run military base and post exchanges are only adding to the problem by selling it.

In 1996, Congress enacted the Military Honor and Decency Act, which bans military stores from selling sexually explicit material, but according to Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, the act is not being enforced.

"Congress is going to have to take a look at this," Donnelly said. "Certainly the Pentagon is going to have to enforce those rules. It's a matter of good order and discipline and not just a matter of religion or free speech. It's a matter that the military itself needs to be concerned about."

Such concern is apparent among military chaplains like Father Mark Reilly, who recently returned from a Marine Corps tour in Iraq.

"I don't think I've ever been confronted as much face-to-face with men and women -- in and out of confessional -- saying, 'I'm addicted to porn and I don't know how to get out of it,'" Reilly said. "They're looking for a life preserver. It's wrecking their marriages. Like any addiction, they lose control."

Reilly said it's the combination of war stress and being away from loved ones that ignite the lust for pornography. Lust turns to addiction and addiction results in imitative behavior as seen in the Abu Ghraib photos -- made for and by porn addicts.

In The New Republic, Rochelle Gurstein described the Abu Ghraib photos as ones that "speak to the coercive and brutalizing nature of the pornographic imaginations so prevalent in our world today."

Archbishop Edwin O'Brien, who leads the U.S. military archdiocese, believes chaplains can play a big role in military porn sobriety by influencing "what is sold in the [exchanges], what's allowed in a public space, an office or a barracks, and I think a chaplain can have great leverage here."

The pornography that is sold at military exchanges is part of a $57 billion-a-year worldwide industry.


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To: RedEyeJack

Thank you for your service, RedEyeJack! Stay safe and good luck! I'll pray for your safe return.


51 posted on 01/08/2007 7:04:25 AM PST by LibertyGrrrl (http://www.conservativepunk.com)
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To: RedEyeJack

Thank you for your service, RedEyeJack! Stay safe and good luck! I'll pray for your safe return.


52 posted on 01/08/2007 7:04:31 AM PST by LibertyGrrrl (http://www.conservativepunk.com)
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To: meyer
Who the heck invented "porn addiction"?

Hillary must have as Bill as the FIRST VICTIM of this terrible disease!!! /sarcasm still on.

53 posted on 01/08/2007 7:06:38 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I don't march to other people's opinion of me or my beliefs. I march to my beliefs and heart.)
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To: balch3

I see some hidden agenda here. After all, if people in the military are addicted to porn, then what's the big deal about letting gays in the military. Another example of gays trying to gain acceptance by tearing down straight institutions.


54 posted on 01/08/2007 7:09:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: generalhammond
Can't find a picture but get Gunnery Sergeant Hartman to straighten them out with drills of "This is my rifle, this is my gun"


55 posted on 01/08/2007 7:10:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (Me a skeptic? I trust you have proof.)
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To: ChuteTheMall

Whatever that means....I have no idea what your point is. Since you just joined it does not matter much anyway.


56 posted on 01/08/2007 8:37:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: RedEyeJack
I don't feel comfortable with a Catholic Chaplin speaking outside the chain of command on what he hears in confession.

Excellent point.

I'm no expert--but it seems to me, how do people in the military, esp. those serving in war zones, have time to be "addicted" to porn? What is the line between looking at porn sites during down time, and "addiction"?

57 posted on 01/08/2007 8:44:35 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Thy Will Be Done.)
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To: balch3
Porn weakens our military. Not a victimelss crime

Busybody social reformers weaken our military. Not a victimless crime.

58 posted on 01/08/2007 8:51:21 AM PST by Physicist
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To: greedo

Have you ever noticed that Private Pyle is actor Vincent D'Onofrio, the cool detective star of LAw & Order: Criminal Intent?


59 posted on 01/08/2007 8:51:53 AM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: darkwing104
They should've been around during WWII! There was all kinds of Porn, on airplanes, in the barracks, bars, ships and such. What a bunch of crap.

Crap is right.
we send 19 year kids out to kill the enemy,but some sissy gets his panties in wad over pictures of naked women or the word Fu** on the side of a airplane

60 posted on 01/08/2007 8:55:06 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: RWR8189

Heck, what else are they supposed to do?


61 posted on 01/08/2007 8:55:53 AM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: darkwing104

I have a feeling that in WWII, Command would have recognized that porn reduces VD rates and quietly condoned it.


62 posted on 01/08/2007 8:57:19 AM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: ichabod1
have a feeling that in WWII, Command would have recognized that porn reduces VD rates and quietly condoned it.

There was a program on the history channel once about gov sanctioned bordellos in Honolulu during WWII

63 posted on 01/08/2007 9:10:52 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: proud American in Canada

I can assure you that those serving in combat and combat support units operating in the field do not have the time nor the access to see a lot of porn if at all. They sure have no privacy. Personnel in rear echelon support units and headquarters units have more access but, where I am, they don't have the time to do much more than work, eat, and sleep 24X7.


64 posted on 01/08/2007 10:10:03 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: Charlespg

Where do you think the term "hooker" came from. General Joe Hooker's staff got tired of the reporters asking about the 'soiled doves' in his entourage to the point of simply replying, "The ladies? They're Hooker's."

That was in 1864 by the way.


65 posted on 01/08/2007 10:12:54 AM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: RebelBanker; Constitution Day
From one source,
Often traced to the disreputable morals of the Army of the Potomac (American Civil War) under the tenure of Gen. “Fighting Joe” Hooker (1863), and the word probably was popularized by this association at that time. But it is said to have been in use in North Carolina c.1845 (“If he comes by way of Norfolk he will find any number of pretty Hookers in the Brick row not far from French's hotel.”).

66 posted on 01/08/2007 10:19:26 AM PST by dighton
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To: balch3
An increasing number of servicemen and women are confessing to pornography addictions and most government-run military base and post exchanges are only adding to the problem by selling it.

What a crock. Yeah, the exchanges sell "porn" if you're so prudish your definition of porn is "Maxim" and "Easy Rider". Give me a break.

67 posted on 01/08/2007 10:22:00 AM PST by GATOR NAVY (Naming CVNs after congressmen and mediocre presidents burns my butt)
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To: RedEyeJack
I don't feel comfortable with a Catholic Chaplin speaking outside the chain of command on what he hears in confession. If he hasn't brought this to the attention of commanders then he has no creditability. If he has and they found it to be true and took no action then there is a problem. Don't see it with the Marines I am working with every day.

Bingo - facts trump fear one more time... Thanks.

68 posted on 01/08/2007 10:26:44 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: GATOR NAVY

Is that Navy for BS?

SZ


69 posted on 01/08/2007 11:44:17 AM PST by SZonian (Fighting Caliphobia one detractor at a time)
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To: SZonian
Yep- Bravo Sierra.
70 posted on 01/08/2007 11:57:22 AM PST by GATOR NAVY (Naming CVNs after congressmen and mediocre presidents burns my butt)
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To: ARE SOLE

Exciting! I'm addicted.


71 posted on 01/08/2007 11:58:19 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Just a guess, what with your screen name and all.;-)

Cheers,
SZ


72 posted on 01/08/2007 11:59:59 AM PST by SZonian (Fighting Caliphobia one detractor at a time)
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To: RebelBanker
That theory's been debunked. This is from the Online Etymology Dictionary:

hooker - "prostitute," often traced to the disreputable morals of the Army of the Potomac (American Civil War) under the tenure of Gen. "Fighting Joe" Hooker (1863), and the word probably was popularized by this association at that time. But it is said to have been in use in North Carolina c.1845 ("If he comes by way of Norfolk he will find any number of pretty Hookers in the Brick row not far from French's hotel."). One theory traces it to Corlear's Hook, a disreputable section of New York City. Perhaps related to hooker "thief, pickpocket" (1567), but most likely an allusion to prostitutes hooking or snaring clients. Hook in the figurative sense of "that by which anyone is attracted or caught" is recorded from 1430; and hook (v.) in the figurative sense of "catch hold of and draw in" is attested from 1577; in reference to "fishing" for a husband or a wife, it was in common use from c.1800. All of which makes the modern sense seem a natural step. The family name Hooker (attested from c.975 C.E.) would mean "maker of hooks," or else refer to an agricultural laborer who used a hook (cf. O.E. weodhoc "weed-hook").

73 posted on 01/08/2007 12:10:43 PM PST by NYCynic
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To: ichabod1

I haven't watched network t.v. in years, but I have seen
R. Lee Ermey on "Mail Call" and he just cracks me up.


74 posted on 01/08/2007 1:36:43 PM PST by greedo
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To: balch3
Porn weakens our military. Not a victimelss crime
Damn straight. These men are lossing their precious bodily fluids.

We was cold hardened sexually-repressed killers. Heaven forbid that men, deprived from contact with their wives girlfrieds etc, would seek to relieve themselves.


In the real world, these men will either releive their prostates themselves or find a prostitute. US servicemen hiring Arab women would create real problems!
75 posted on 01/08/2007 3:36:25 PM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: TexKat

Oh, please. This is not porn. It's sexy female entertainment. There's a big difference.

Funny how liberal laws are enforced to the point of mega-lawsuits, huge settlements, firings, and the like, for those who don't carry them out with sufficient enthusiasm. Whereas complete nonenforcement of conservative laws gets a complete pass. Just another example of liberal rule in this country. The fact is, Congress made a judgment about the availability of porn on military bases. It reflects a general ideal and sense of right conduct and human psychology in our society. One can argue (wrongly, in my view) that such a law should be repealed. But it is very unconservative and undemocratic not to enforce the law.


76 posted on 01/08/2007 4:25:14 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: balch3

Tyranny of the appetite.


77 posted on 01/08/2007 7:27:01 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: Junior

>>Allowing them this release is the least we can do for them.

True enough - but there's a big difference between, "release", and being preyed upon by an unscrupulous industry whose executives have discovered the lucrative nature of what Plato referred to as "the tyranny of the appetite".


78 posted on 01/08/2007 7:36:17 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: BritExPatInFla
There isn't a problem, and the article makes too much of it. But it is possible for it to be a problem, and the dismissiveness is not warranted without definite knowledge of the facts on the ground. The reason to be concerned is not our men's emotional health or moral purity. It is what men with wild fantasies, guns in their hands, and a populace at their mercy are sometimes capable of. As long as that isn't happening, no problem. But imagining it can't, is denying too much ugly human history.
79 posted on 01/08/2007 7:37:27 PM PST by JasonC
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To: balch3

Oh, please. Everyone has a choice. I was in the Navy for 13 years; if you removed every scrap of porn from every ship in the Navy the oceans would acutally recede a couple of inches. I find religious busibodies to be every bit as annoying as the political ones.


80 posted on 01/08/2007 7:40:51 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: VxH

You expect people whose very lives could end any minute to make that distinction?


81 posted on 01/08/2007 7:51:23 PM PST by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

That's not pornography by today's standards,IMHO. It's also tastefully done.

It doesn't take much to look around the internet and find material that degrades the human species. Judging by the quantity that's available, there is obviously a demand for the product. As is the case in opiate production, much of that demand has been deliberately manufactured by the suppliers.

It's an unfortunate example of the decline of Western Civilization.

We really should behave better than animals.

Having said all that, however, this is an issue of free speech - and I'd fight for their right to distribute the material.


82 posted on 01/08/2007 7:58:25 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: Ramius

The Story the Soldiers Wouldn't Tell: Sex in the Civil War.
by Tom Lowry

"Naughty pictures" of nude or scantily clad women were available even then and people were upset about it.
Would I want my husband or son looking? NO, but it's not new.


83 posted on 01/08/2007 8:05:38 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: balch3
Porn weakens our military. Not a victimelss crime

Oh, great. Another repressed Church Lady (a term which embraces both genders) who wants to tell everyone else how to live their lives.

Get a life.

84 posted on 01/08/2007 8:05:57 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: balch3
Architectural Porn:


85 posted on 01/08/2007 8:13:38 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Junior

>>You expect people whose very lives could
>>end any minute to make that distinction?

I expect those who make vendor and supply chain decisions to make that distinction.

We don't need another GI-funded industry like the tobacco industry.


86 posted on 01/08/2007 8:18:18 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: RWR8189

This is nothing new. The only difference is accessability. When I was going to sea, there were always 8mm "Training Films" on board the vessel. The senior enlisted lounge ran them several nights a week. I just could never understand why they showed them on the first night of a 60 day patrol.

Gunner


87 posted on 01/08/2007 8:23:04 PM PST by weps4ret (Things the make you go; Hmmmmmmm?)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Good thing we didn't have this problem in WWII...we'd have never won that war with pervasive images of scantily dressed women...

I understand your point and it's valid. But there's a big difference between what was available, sort of, in 1945 compared to what's available with the click of a mouse in 2007. The pin-ups of the last half-century do not compare to the porn of today.
88 posted on 01/08/2007 8:24:37 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: kalee

>>NO, but it's not new.

Of course it's not new.

More than 2000 years ago, Plato referred to the abuse of sexual urges as "the tyranny of the appetite".

Preying upon those who can not control their own appetites is probably the world's second oldest profession.


89 posted on 01/08/2007 8:34:01 PM PST by VxH (There are those who declare the impossible - and those who do the impossible.)
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To: balch3
"Congress is going to have to take a look at this," Donnelly said. "Certainly the Pentagon is going to have to enforce those rules. It's a matter of good order and discipline and not just a matter of religion or free speech. It's a matter that the military itself needs to be concerned about."

Hmm. I suppose Ms. Donnelly is speaking from experience here? I wonder when and where she did her combat tour....

I suppose it's possible that some troops COULD be addicted to pornography, and so porn availability MIGHT be an issue for them.

Of course, by getting rid of porn, you create whole new discipline issues. Young men, after several months of nearly no interaction with women, are going to get rather grumpy and ticked off pretty easily. Add to that mixture the lovely desert environment and the excitement of roadside explosives, and things get even worse. If the troops can enjoy a few luxuries, like a simple nudie magazine, it can ease a lot of tension that might otherwise be vented through fighting or other macho posturing that is detrimental to good discipline and morale.

To me, it makes more sense to send the few "porn addicts" to the chaplain or shrink than expecting officers and NCO's to deal with constant conflict between sexually frustrated joes.

90 posted on 01/08/2007 8:37:40 PM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: balch3

As the then-mayor of New Orleans said in 1917 when the Navy forced the shutdown of the Storyville red-light district, you can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular.


91 posted on 01/08/2007 8:40:23 PM PST by RichInOC (Rich's Undeniable Truth of the Day: Nobody reads it JUST for the articles.)
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To: balch3
One thing you learn in battle (for those of you who never have been in battle) when you get back from a day of adrenaline pumping action, the hormones in your body remain pumped up for a VERY LONG time even if your body just wants to crash.

Commanders know this and have throughout history. Armies have had to deal with this fact in their own ways but regardless of the situation, the army or the individual soldier, you still have to deal with it somehow.

Deal with it, even if you have never experienced it!
92 posted on 01/08/2007 8:43:38 PM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: RWR8189
By their standards, I'm sure 80% or more of America's young men suffer from a "porn addiction"

You are correct. They do.

93 posted on 01/08/2007 9:31:11 PM PST by It's me
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To: RedEyeJack
I don't feel comfortable with a Catholic Chaplin speaking outside the chain of command on what he hears in confession.

Oh for heaven's sake!

The Chaplain did not specifically state who confessed the sin did he? He was just stating that there many men and women "in and out of the confessional" saying that they are addicted to porn. I've heard this many times from priests. It is now the number one sin which is confessed.

94 posted on 01/08/2007 9:35:14 PM PST by It's me
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To: greedo

Then there's this scene...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SI9wcVGYMEs&mode=related&search=

Or, just go to youtube and type in "This is my rifle..."


95 posted on 01/09/2007 5:16:14 AM PST by chadwimc
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To: AD from SpringBay
The differences in your comparison are valid, however, we're talking about things that are and are not "socially acceptable". Pin-ups, though frowned upon by the frigid and myopic chastity cheerleaders, were socially acceptable, porn was not. Porn was available during WWII, and any other conflict. It just wasn't talked about. Today, porn is "more" socially acceptable. Not that it's right, it's just a fact of life.

If a military member today goes onto a military/government computer and tries to view or download porn, they're in for a world of hurt by their chain of command. It's a punishable offense under the UCMJ and any commander who values their job will punish the hell out of you for violating the rules. The rules are there, obey them.

What a person does on their own time is their own business as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to do their job. When it interferes, take the appropriate approach and get it dealt with. Until then, the chaplains need to stay the hell out of it and quit proseletyzing in the public arena about it.

SZ
96 posted on 01/09/2007 7:57:22 AM PST by SZonian (Fighting Caliphobia one detractor at a time)
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To: SZonian

I'll buy most of that.


97 posted on 01/09/2007 8:53:52 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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