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Bush adding 21,500 troops to Iraq force - LIVE thread- speech 9pm EST
Yahoo/AP ^ | 1-10-07 | TerenceHunt

Posted on 01/10/2007 2:30:20 PM PST by STARWISE

Unswayed by anti-war passions, President Bush will send 21,500 additional U.S. troops to Iraq and build the American presence there toward its highest level to quell worsening bloodshed. The move puts Bush on a collision course with the new Democratic Congress and runs counter to advice from some senior generals.

Set to announce his decisions in a prime-time speech Wednesday night, Bush was to acknowledge making major mistakes in Iraq, primarily failing to deploy enough U.S. soldiers and demand more Iraqi troops and cooperation to confront the country's near-anarchy.

In advance of Bush's address, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said U.S. military operations have been "handcuffed by political interference by Iraqi leadership" — but now will proceed under rules allowing troops to confront Shiite militias as well as Sunni insurgents.

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The new Democratic leaders of Congress met with Bush and complained afterward that their opposition to a buildup had been ignored. "This is the third time we are going down this path. Two times this has not worked," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Why are they doing this now? That question remains."

Senate and House Democrats are arranging votes urging the president not to send more troops. While lacking the force of law, the measures would compel Republicans to go on record as either bucking the president or supporting an escalation.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush; iran; iraq; presbush; syria; troops; wot
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To: onyx

I'm reading this speech as: "You RATs might run Congress now, but I AM THE PRESIDENT!"

And I love it.


651 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:24 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Liberal RATs will get us all killed.)
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To: furquhart

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


652 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:36 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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To: Howlin; marajade

Howlin-if you're gonna play with this one, go on and get your claws out.


653 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:39 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: All
there it is again - the burdens of freedom / see our freedoms redeeemed / the author of liberty will guide us through these trying hours....

I won't bank any money on the fact that any ONE of the presstitutes will even mention that beloved word - FREEDOM!

654 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:40 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: NYTexan

GREAT JOB MR. PRESIDENT AND GREAT TIE!


655 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:46 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: AliVeritas

LOL - while our troops are cleaning up Baghdad, maybe they can do something about that enemy headquarters there at the Palestione Hotel.


656 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:50 PM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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To: DCPatriot
"But in 2006, the opposite happened. The violence in Iraq – particularly in Baghdad – overwhelmed the political gains the Iraqis had made. Al Qaeda terrorists and Sunni insurgents recognized the mortal danger that Iraq’s elections posed for their cause. And they responded with outrageous acts of murder aimed at innocent Iraqis. They blew up one of the holiest shrines in Shia Islam – the Golden Mosque of Samarra – in a calculated effort to provoke Iraq’s Shia population to retaliate. Their strategy worked. Radical Shia elements, some supported by Iran, formed death squads. And the result was a vicious cycle of sectarian violence that continues today.

The situation in Iraq is unacceptable to the American people – and it is unacceptable to me. Our troops in Iraq have fought bravely. They have done everything we have asked them to do. Where mistakes have been made, the responsibility rests with me."

657 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:52 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Dog

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Bush Warning to Iran: 'I recently ordered deployment of additional carrier strike group'...
'We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria'...


658 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:54 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: Peach


Very sensible, yet forceful speech with encouragement and optimism for success.

BRAVO, Mr. President!!!!


659 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:55 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: mystery-ak; All

Short sweet and to the point.

Laid it out very plainly for the regular people to understand.

Only the Libtards and DUmmies will be confused.


660 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:55 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: Carolinamom

Brit explains the president took responsibility for any mistakes and that things hadn't gone the way we'd hoped since the 2005 Iraqi elections.


661 posted on 01/10/2007 6:22:55 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I use the opposite of whatever Dick Morris says as my benchmark of what is really going to occur. It is practically foolproof.


662 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:03 PM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: OhioInfidel

Between you and I, he is the front runner... and I talk to a lot of folks while not looking at polls.


663 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:07 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming.)
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To: Miss Marple

Fox internet newsstream dead again. Didn't waste any time.


664 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:09 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: angcat

God Bless that man!


665 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:09 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: onyx
He really needs to speak in prime time a lot more often.

He really does. I think he always gains more support when he does. He is a sincere person and that comes shining through.

666 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:20 PM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: Dog
Dog. Yes you did. Carrier and Patriot Missile Battery.
667 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:24 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: All

Now the talking heads weigh in. I have a large container on hand for the expected flow of bile.


668 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:28 PM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Evil looking creep. Hope he soons breaths his last.


669 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:28 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: mystery-ak

"Will the troops like this speech?"


Well this soldier did.


670 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:30 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: RushCrush

These two items are Bush's fault. He is Commander in Chief and there is no excuse. Too bad it has taken him this long to figure it out. We need a President who is strong and who knows how to fight a war.


671 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:32 PM PST by racing fan (Go Team Israel!)
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To: eleni121
If Iraq and Afghanistan's moderates cannot grab their chance at civilized nations, then the next US Pres will have to unleash hell.

Which is why we had better elect a ruthless SOB.
672 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:40 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: onyx
And now let the whinig from the peanut gallery begin. Heres on poster at DU who still cant grasp what Afghanistan is about:

3088791, OH BULLSHIT!AL QUAEDA IN AFGHANISTAN??? Posted by Horse with no Name on Wed Jan-10-07 09:14 PM I thought we were fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

673 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: onyx

I agree.


674 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:45 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: onyx

Russert saying GOPers will cross over to defeat this new strategy.


675 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:45 PM PST by paulat
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To: Fudd Fan


I agree!

BRAVO, Mr. President!

He's CIC!!!


676 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:52 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: Dog

on which side of the borders?


677 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:54 PM PST by oceanview
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To: section9
Bush knows what Patton knew: "Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time! I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost, and laughed!"

A modern day Patton would say:

Thirty years from now, when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee and he asks you, "What did you do in the great War on Terror?", you won't have to say, "Well... I just sat there and swallowed the sh*t fed to me from the Drive-by Media."

678 posted on 01/10/2007 6:23:59 PM PST by Darth Republican
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To: OhioInfidel

I heard Public Integrity was after him... cooking up some fake lobbying crap (the usual MO). I have to dig tonight so i'll have the debunk handy.


679 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:09 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming.)
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To: onyx

I think I heard that there's going to be a Dem response to this.


680 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:10 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: furquhart
Given the overt strikes in Somalia, my very strong suspicion is that the whole Ethiopian invasion was a US covert operation - probably with the support of US Special Forces and air power, as well as logistical support.

Absolutely it's no secret we have special ops troops in Djibouti. I also read today they are expecting American boots on the ground in Somalia soon.

681 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:15 PM PST by rhombus
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To: LdSentinal

I heard the same thing...

It said something like we will work with "others" to deal with Iran.

Basically: Israel.


682 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:18 PM PST by TFine80 (The 1994 Revolution Petered Out.... So Let's Try Again and Do It Right!)
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To: armymarinemom

I can't help but wonder: Why is Brit calling the war in Iraq a "conflict"?


683 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:21 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: STARWISE
Biggest news from the speech

Succeeding in Iraq also requires defending its territorial integrity – and stabilizing the region in the face of the extremist challenge. This begins with addressing Iran and Syria. These two regimes are allowing terrorists and insurgents to use their territory to move in and out of Iraq. Iran is providing material support for attacks on American troops. We will disrupt the attacks on our forces. We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq.

684 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:24 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Howlin
Will the troops like this speech?<

Heck, yeah..."cut-and-run" talk pisses 'em off. This is the opposite.

The Iraqis will like this, too.

685 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:25 PM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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To: proud American in Canada

I missed a lot tonight; my husband is listening to the UConn basketball game on the computer and I'm trying to hear the television over the game.


686 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:39 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: racing fan

There's always a learning curve in war. Look to Vietnam, Korea, the World Wars, the Civil War, and the Revolution.


687 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:41 PM PST by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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To: jveritas
"This is the beautiful surprise in President Bush speech that it was not given to the media in the pre-speech release."

Really? Interesting.

688 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:41 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: STARWISE

Turbin Durbin is going to give the Dems' response.


689 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:42 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Dog

From the speech

"We are also taking other steps to bolster the security of Iraq and protect American interests in the Middle East. I recently ordered the deployment of an additional carrier strike group to the region. We will expand intelligence sharing – and deploy Patriot air defense systems to reassure our friends and allies. We will work with the governments of Turkey and Iraq to help them resolve problems along their border. And we will work with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating the region."


690 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:48 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: onyx
Very sensible, yet forceful speech with encouragement and optimism for success.
BRAVO, Mr. President!!!!

I agree. A difficult speech at a difficult time and he handled it very well.

BRAVO from me too!

691 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:49 PM PST by silent_jonny (Nothing Less Than Victory)
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To: proud American in Canada

I'm happy you agree.


692 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:50 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: AliVeritas

WHAT???? DURBIN IS GIVING A RESPONSE??? WHAT THE HECK IS THIS???


693 posted on 01/10/2007 6:24:53 PM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: NormsRevenge

His mom had to nurse that? Sheesh.


694 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:01 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming.)
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To: Peach

Ugh, now the Demonratic response.


695 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:02 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: txradioguy
Laid it out very plainly for the regular people to understand.

That's how I heard it. Great job, IMO>

Only the Libtards and DUmmies will be confused.

LOL! "Confused on purpose," so to speak.

696 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:02 PM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: armymarinemom
Where are we sending a Patriot Missile Battery??

Iraq?

697 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:02 PM PST by Dog (DEMS--- 5 day work week..............errr...nevermind....100 hours...starting...soon .....MAYBE)
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To: mystery-ak
Brit Hume immediately mentioned that at this stage in President Bush's term that the delivery of the speech...being monotoned and straightforward vs uplifting...doesn't matter.

It's the results....

698 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:03 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Yeah.....Durbin of all people.


699 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:03 PM PST by edpc (The pen is mightier than the sword......until you fight someone.)
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To: mystery-ak

How appropriate that a DICK is responding on behalf of the Democraps


700 posted on 01/10/2007 6:25:13 PM PST by MagUSNRET
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