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Victor Davis Hanson: The Surge Gamble. All eyes now turn to Baghdad and Sadr City
NRO ^ | January 11, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 01/11/2007 9:30:25 AM PST by Tolik

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1 posted on 01/11/2007 9:30:27 AM PST by Tolik
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2 posted on 01/11/2007 9:31:14 AM PST by Tolik
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To: All

I hope everyone will keep the troops in their prayers.


Semper Fi,
Kelly


3 posted on 01/11/2007 9:34:32 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Tolik

Poll to freep

Did Bush's speech last night convince you it is essential to send more troops to Iraq?
Choice Votes Percentage of 33 Votes
Yes 7 21%
No 26 79%
Thanks for sharing your opinion -- check back here for results later, or check them by watching NBC5's 6 p.m. news.

http://www.nbc5.com/index.html

Scroll down right side of page.


4 posted on 01/11/2007 9:35:06 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: kellynla

Always, Kelly, always.


5 posted on 01/11/2007 9:35:32 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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...So let’s win in pursuit of victory, and everything else will sort itself out

i.e. There is no substitute for victory

6 posted on 01/11/2007 9:38:45 AM PST by Tolik
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To: kellynla
Basics here:


7 posted on 01/11/2007 9:39:06 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: kellynla
There is this:

Shiite leader [Al-Hakim] calls for Iraq to hit law-breakers with an 'iron fist' [sic]

8 posted on 01/11/2007 9:41:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Tolik

Pres. Bush has been so sufficiently neutered that he will order a backdown by forces in Iraq as soon as the first MSM hit pieces whine about 'targeting civilians'.

Then GWB will spend the rest of his term on his 'legacy' - more taxes and regulations.


9 posted on 01/11/2007 9:42:15 AM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: Tolik
The good and bad news of Bush's surge: The bad news, the MSM and the Democrats have invested too much in the administrations failure and no matter how well this new plan works, it will be defined as a defeat. The good news, with the embed of troops in the Iraq army, any loss can be blamed on the Iraqis as the US cuts and runs.
10 posted on 01/11/2007 9:43:03 AM PST by PolishProud (A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants)
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To: Tolik

This guy would make a good president.


11 posted on 01/11/2007 9:44:55 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

yep, the same morons as the Viet Nam antiwar crowd...Kennedy & Klan.
deja vu all over again...


12 posted on 01/11/2007 9:51:58 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Tolik

Seems tome that GWB is making the same mistake Lyndon Johnson did. Creeping incrementalism. The way to defeat a guerrilla insurgency is not though small percentage increases but an overwhelming force that crushes the enemies will to fight.

20,000 additional troops is a gesture not a stategy. By our own tactical doctrine we need 300-350 K troops on the ground to win.


13 posted on 01/11/2007 9:52:23 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: Tolik
...an Iraqi face on operations, economic stimuli, clear mission of clearing terrorists out of Baghdad, political reform, a “green-light” to go after killers — while addressing the necessary regional concerns with Syria and Iran.

I hope the ROE are not just changed, but radically changed. No more police tactics, fight this war like a war and kill the bastards.

I hope Hanson is right and we clear out Sadr City ASAP. I'd love to a video of Muqtada's execution.

14 posted on 01/11/2007 10:19:31 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: tomcorn
...The way to defeat a guerrilla insurgency is ... an overwhelming force that crushes the enemies will to fight.

We are not fighting their will, but them. They are fighting agaist our will with their allies the ACLU and the MSM. The way to win is to crush them - kill them.

Islam does not think like westerners, the faithful are more than willing to die - (I say we accommodate them). Most just will submit to the biggest bully around, because Islam is not about the authentic condition of the heart (as in "love God with all your heart, all your soul, all your might and all your mind...Love your neighbor as your self")but outward submission only.

If we really want to win, we will crush the faithful jihadists and send missionaries to re-educate and evangelize them. But then we would also have to crush the ACLU.

But as long as the ACLU has any legitimacy - it will be our will to win is what will be crushed.

15 posted on 01/11/2007 10:21:41 AM PST by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: DaveyB

Very well put!


16 posted on 01/11/2007 10:31:06 AM PST by livius
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To: indylindy

VDH is an advisor to Mitt Romney according to this report in Boston Globe (see comment near end of article):


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/01/11/romney_supports_a_troop_increase/


17 posted on 01/11/2007 10:33:11 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus

A plus on Romneys side. Good to know he picks a good conservative for advice.


18 posted on 01/11/2007 10:36:50 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Tolik
My understanding is that the gloves are off, alSadr and his army have become targets for terror, our rules of combat have been explained to Iraq's president. Based on this I can support the increase in troop level.
19 posted on 01/11/2007 11:08:36 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: zot; The Shrew

Here's Dr. Hanson's take...


20 posted on 01/11/2007 11:56:28 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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