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Muslim-only kitchen kit for jails (UK)
sun ^ | January 13, 2007 | JULIE MOULT

Posted on 01/13/2007 9:00:58 AM PST by dennisw

JAILS are spending thousands on colour-coded kitchen tools for Muslims, it was revealed last night.

They are getting special red handled equipment to prepare Halal meals.

The move comes after an MPs’ committee recommended more should be done to meet the needs of Muslim prisoners.

So far 900 kits — costing £500 to £800 — have gone to jails across the UK.

The Koran prohibits eating pig meat, which is considered unclean. So the serving spoons, ice cream scoops and ladles are kept in special locked chests to prevent contamination by those used for other inmates.

A Muslim in Wakefield jail, Yorks, said: “We’ve all eaten in restaurants where no one cares how food is prepared. None except the strictest Muslims bother to check whether different equipment is used — it’s a waste of money.”

A Prison Service spokesperson said: “A comprehensive policy is in place for all aspects of Halal products including storage, cooking and service.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; hilal; islam; morethanequalrights

1 posted on 01/13/2007 9:01:01 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Why is this being done for muslims but it was never done for Jews?


2 posted on 01/13/2007 9:05:40 AM PST by san juan
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To: dennisw

It's coming here. Just give it time.


3 posted on 01/13/2007 9:06:57 AM PST by BW2221
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To: dennisw

"Trade an orange for sweaty meat, trade an orange for sweaty meat..."


4 posted on 01/13/2007 9:07:24 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: san juan

Because Mohammedans are extra extra extra special. Muhammad called them the best of people


5 posted on 01/13/2007 9:09:16 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: dennisw

Muslim incrementalism- this is the way the world ends- not with a bang or a whimper, but a slow, drip, drip, drip....


6 posted on 01/13/2007 9:21:51 AM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: dennisw
If Muzzies would stay out of prison, this wouldn't be a problem.
7 posted on 01/13/2007 9:24:44 AM PST by BW2221
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To: dennisw

8 posted on 01/13/2007 9:26:14 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: dennisw
The move comes after an MPs’ committee recommended more should be done to meet the needs of Muslim prisoners.

I find something concerning about this statement reflecting "needs" for prisoners.

Pretty soon discipline will be abolished and those who practice discipline will be the criminals.

9 posted on 01/13/2007 9:36:17 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: dennisw
“We’ve all eaten in restaurants where no one cares how food is prepared. None except the strictest Muslims bother to check whether different equipment is used"

Muslim = extremist.

Even when it comes to going to a restaurant...

10 posted on 01/13/2007 9:41:00 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: san juan
Why is this being done for muslims but it was never done for Jews?

Just a couple of guesses:
1. The Jewish prisoners were just too polite to ask?
2. The co-congregants (outside the prison walls) of the Jewish prisoners
haven't been documented to saw the heads off innocents when they
didn't get every little thing they want?

Those guesses may sound facetious. But I suspect they reflect the
reality of the situation.

But at least in the Los Angeles County jail, I do know that Jewish
prisoners have their own services. Maybe four-five years ago,
I read an interesting article about a rabbi that performs the
services and counsels Jewish prisoners.
But I don't know if there was any mention of kosher food being
provided to Jewish prisoners.
11 posted on 01/13/2007 9:44:19 AM PST by VOA
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To: dennisw
“A comprehensive policy is in place for all aspects of Halal products including storage, cooking and service.”

No wonder the U.K. people are so adamant against joining the WOT.

They can't afford it!!!!

12 posted on 01/13/2007 9:45:05 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: VOA
The Jewish prisoners were just too polite to ask?

Perhaps those of the Jewish faith tote more apathy after doing wrong....

13 posted on 01/13/2007 9:47:24 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: dennisw

If we look at the alternate arguement. Separate utinsils and food preparation equipment will guarantee than no prisoner has to eat off of something that a muslim has eaten off of or had in his mouth.


14 posted on 01/13/2007 9:48:15 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: dennisw
We just got a puppy so I got a book called 'My Smart Puppy' It has a lot of good info on how showing the puppy you're in charge. The people in charge of the law enforcement in England should get a copy.

It comes with a DVD if they don't want to actually read it.

15 posted on 01/13/2007 9:49:04 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: BW2221
If Muzzies would stay out of prison, this wouldn't be a problem.

Inmates are people too.

They also need to be converted or die.

16 posted on 01/13/2007 9:50:07 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: san juan
Why is this being done for muslims but it was never done for Jews?

Jews never blew up the jail, or the market, if they weren't catered to.

17 posted on 01/13/2007 9:53:15 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: dennisw
Tony likes his pasta al dente, capisce?

18 posted on 01/13/2007 10:05:33 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: BW2221
It is here in federal jails. I just called a a prison guard I know and he said the Jewish can get kosher meals ....The Muslims don't have to eat pork etc. We don't make people go against their religious practices. He was really busy so I didn't get to ask if they get special knives or cooking utensils. But I wouldn't doubt it. They get their prayer times and all that though.
19 posted on 01/13/2007 10:09:12 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: dennisw
"They are getting special red-handled equipment to prepare Halal meals."

I could probably find a nifty bottle of cyanide that I'd be more than happy to fit a bright red handle onto.

How can I make my humble donation to this worthy cause??

20 posted on 01/13/2007 10:10:43 AM PST by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: dennisw

Next they will demand that all the guards that see them or touch them must be Muslims...


21 posted on 01/13/2007 10:22:22 AM PST by Sender ("Great powers should never get involved in the politics of small tribes.")
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To: pandoraou812

"It is here in federal jails. I just called a a prison guard I know and he said the Jewish can get kosher meals ....The Muslims don't have to eat pork etc. We don't make people go against their religious practices. He was really busy so I didn't get to ask if they get special knives or cooking utensils. But I wouldn't doubt it. They get their prayer times and all that though."

The fact that in many jails Jews can get kosher meals wasn't my point. It's the special cooking utensils locked away in special cabinets that rediculous. This is just another case of muslims using their "religion" to make fools of us. And each time they win one of these little victories, they are embolden to try something more outrageous. We've got to stop playing by THEIR rules, which they change to suit their advantage.


22 posted on 01/13/2007 10:23:12 AM PST by san juan
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To: dennisw

I would just set aside the rat poison.


23 posted on 01/13/2007 10:23:52 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: dennisw

Well, I won't worry too much about this. All this will do is give a whole new meaning to "Halal", British-style - one that the Muslims hadn't intended.

The British working class, like the British army has a fairly amusing history of complying with bureaucratic decrees from on-high, while still getting their point across.

The muslim prisoners will soon be clamoring for the non "halal" cutlery, as they will find out that the halal cutlery, pots, pans don't quite yield that wholesome down-home flavor that they are looking for.


24 posted on 01/13/2007 10:34:53 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: san juan
This is just another case of Muslims using their "religion" to make fools of us. And each time they win one of these little victories, they are embolden to try something more outrageous. We've got to stop playing by THEIR rules, which they change to suit their advantage.

I agree with you 100%. I am tired of Muslim demands and complaints.... If you noted in my reply...I said my friend was too busy to tell me about the utensils. I will try to find out if that goes on though.
25 posted on 01/13/2007 11:09:38 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812

Here's a suggestion. As I understand it, muslim diets and Jewish diets are similar so let muslims eat Kosher meals off Kosher plates cooked with Kosher cookware. This thing is so like our guards at Guantanamo catering to the private jokes of muslim prisoners by putting on gloves before touching their korans. They're laughing at us.


26 posted on 01/13/2007 12:01:15 PM PST by san juan
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To: pandoraou812

Here's a suggestion. As I understand it, muslim diets and Jewish diets are similar so let muslims eat Kosher meals off Kosher plates cooked with Kosher cookware. This thing is so like our guards at Guantanamo catering to the private jokes of muslim prisoners by putting on gloves before touching their korans. They're laughing at us.


27 posted on 01/13/2007 12:01:20 PM PST by san juan
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To: indylindy

Put em on peanut butter sandwiches.


28 posted on 01/13/2007 12:07:54 PM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: dennisw

In one of the greatest mysteries of the 21st century, Muslims and Islam as a whole, AFTER the worst attack in American History are demanding more and more special privleges and rights every day. Yes, they're not all terrorists but it seems we are creating a seperate, special America for them.

Muslims are one of the largest growing segments of the population, you now have halal McDonalds, (I'm not kidding) Muslims demand and GET everything they ask for in this country, they are given higher regard and more concessions than Christians or Jews. So much for our Judeo-Christian country.

Our immigration laws USED to give preferences to Judeo-Christians with limited third world entry. This flood of immigrants have changed the INTENDED make-up of our country with no end in sight. The best days of America are behind us.


29 posted on 01/13/2007 12:20:02 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake.)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Our immigration laws USED to give preferences to Judeo-Christians with limited third world entry. This flood of immigrants have changed the INTENDED make-up of our country with no end in sight. The best days of America are behind us.

NEW US IMMIGRATION POLICY: muslims want to destroy us. So let's invite more of them in and really make them feel welcome.




30 posted on 01/13/2007 12:29:18 PM PST by san juan
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To: san juan

NEW US IMMIGRATION POLICY: muslims want to destroy us. So let's invite more of them in and really make them feel welcome.

___

Amazing, isn't it.

Like I've said before, there is a "matrix" in this country, the media matrix of unreality and totally backward thought that a lot of people live in and the confusing reality that the rest of us share that is denied to exist.


31 posted on 01/13/2007 12:46:55 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Good point.


32 posted on 01/13/2007 12:50:47 PM PST by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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To: san juan

Lmao....Yes the Muslims are laughing at us. As I understand it at Guantanamo they are eating better then they ever have before, are in better health and have use of a gym. Some are even gaining weight....Yup they're laughing at us .


33 posted on 01/13/2007 12:58:54 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: dennisw
A Muslim in Wakefield jail, Yorks, said: “We’ve all eaten in restaurants where no one cares how food is prepared. None except the strictest Muslims bother to check whether different equipment is used — it’s a waste of money.”

Well, there you have it...

34 posted on 01/14/2007 4:08:09 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: san juan
Why is this being done for muslims but it was never done for Jews?

Hmmmm... Also, why now?

OK. A few possibilities. I, for whatever reason (go ahead DU lurkers and brand me racist), would imagine that there are a heck of a lot fewer Jews in prison in the UK than Muslims. It's not that they have some evil world controlling cabal that keeps them out of prison. It's just that from what I can see on the telly and in real life, Muslims are some irrational mother****ers. And from what I have seen of Jews in my life, they are the opposite. We are talking cultural value choices here- not genetic superiority. Rational choices rarely lead one to jail.

Plus, lately ;-), I imagine a lot of Muslims have found their way to jail in the UK for standing on the street corner outside the mosque and saying 'Death to the infidels'.

Thus a big upswing in Muslim populations in UK jails has brought new problems- like Muslim eating requirements.

A weird question just occurred to me. I wonder if the Nazis gave any thought to kosher/non-kosher? Not sure what difference it would make.

35 posted on 01/14/2007 4:16:30 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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