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Globe Columnist: 'Accept Iran's Dominant Influence In The Middle East'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/14/2007 8:17:28 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

It's not enough to embrace defeat in Iraq. The United States should pre-emptively surrender to Iran too. That's not Noam Chomsky's latest fevered pronouncement, nor the impassioned plea of Cindy Sheehan at the gates of Gitmo. It is the opening paragraph of a column in this morning's Boston Globe by Robert Rotberg. And who is Rotberg? Former President of Lafayette College, former professor at MIT, now Director of Harvards's Kennedy School Program on Intrastate Conflict and Conflict Resolution.

"The only way to promote sustainable peace, stability, and order in Iraq is to forge an unholy alliance with Iran -- and accept Iran's dominant influence in the Middle East. Only by accepting Iranian hegemonic pretensions, odious as they are, can the United States extricate itself somewhat honorably from Iraq."
In case we missed the point, here's how Rotberg concludes his column:
"Without talking to Iran and coming to a cynical but necessary understanding, Iraqis and US forces will only thrash their way deeper into an interminable quagmire."
Is there no appeasement that some on the American left will not embrace, no surrender to Islamism it will not rush to accept? Apparently not.

Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: appeasement; harvard; iran; iraq; nevillechamberlain; preemptivesurrender; robertrotberg; rotberg; surrenderjunkies

1 posted on 01/14/2007 8:17:32 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Neville-Chamberlain-lives ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 01/14/2007 8:18:08 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The pathetic liberal midset never ceases to amaze me. Neville-Chamberlain reincarnated....There is peace only if we apease.


3 posted on 01/14/2007 8:20:22 AM PST by never4get
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Ah, the Jimmy Carter solution! "Sorry, the problem is here to stay and best we learn to live with it."
4 posted on 01/14/2007 8:21:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Oh, great, another parchment moron.


5 posted on 01/14/2007 8:22:29 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
'Accept Iran's Dominant Influence In The Middle East'

Bebe/Binyamin ....... where are you?

6 posted on 01/14/2007 8:22:39 AM PST by beyond the sea ( World Ending - Children and The Poor Hit Hardest)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Left is morally and intellectually bankrupt.


7 posted on 01/14/2007 8:22:54 AM PST by kjo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Crack is bad, mmkay?


8 posted on 01/14/2007 8:23:17 AM PST by RichInOC (MAHMOUD: IT'S YOU!! GULBUTH: Y HALO THAR BUTTSECKS? MAHMOUD: WHAT YOU SAY!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Isn't Rotberg German for "red city?"


9 posted on 01/14/2007 8:25:00 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Not unlike this famous quote from a great liberal military man: "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance".


10 posted on 01/14/2007 8:25:48 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sounds like the professor's sharpened his head to nice, shiny point. History is one of the easiest things to learn from: you either proactively stand up to bullies, dictators and totalitarian regimes, or you will have to reactively stand up to bullies, dictators and totalitarian regimes. All that education, wasted on an idiot.


11 posted on 01/14/2007 8:27:49 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This liberal nutjob forgot to add the line "resistance is futile".


12 posted on 01/14/2007 8:28:16 AM PST by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Sorry I will not change my religion and bow to anybody but the God who I believe in. That is what they first want , read what they say. Second, I will not accept peace with a man who says the Holocaust did not exist. Third, he can take his oil and shove it where his mother never kissed him. I would rather be outside cutting trees for warmth and walking then make peace with a man who wants to destroy the world.
13 posted on 01/14/2007 8:28:35 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: RichInOC

Apparently he's another posterboy for a "This is your brain on drugs" public service message.

I wonder if he throws like a girl?

14 posted on 01/14/2007 8:30:38 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The left beleieves the West should fall anyway, but they do not consider to whom they want to let it fall.

The left is out there surrendering again.


15 posted on 01/14/2007 8:32:14 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: piasa

Red mountain.


16 posted on 01/14/2007 8:32:27 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Go back to your desk and hide while the adults take care of things will ya Professor?
17 posted on 01/14/2007 8:34:13 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey,the Globe just had another layoff of personnel this week. I don't think these genius columnists are helping "Pravda northeast" much !!!


18 posted on 01/14/2007 8:34:50 AM PST by Obie Wan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

His last name ROTberg is very fitting.

I think his head is full of rot.


19 posted on 01/14/2007 8:38:51 AM PST by gabidale89
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well...dang, he makes is so easy.

I know I would sleep better at night, knowing that Iran has our blessing for a nuke weapon.


20 posted on 01/14/2007 8:40:53 AM PST by Txsleuth (FREEPATHON TIME-Please become a monthly donor, or Dollar a Day donor.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Is there no appeasement that some on the American left will not embrace, no surrender to Islamism it will not rush to accept?

The answer is so obvious that the question is silly.

The left (Democrats) are doing two things that they always do, consistently, with any large geopolitical issues: They are setting up a "heads I win, tails you lose" situation where they pay no price at all if we successfully pacify Iraq -- even if Bush wins in Iraq, they have demogogued our population into the belief that it isn't worth it, even in victory...that victory has no meaning. They have convinced the average, tuned out, American that they have no stake in Iraq in particular and the middle east in general.

That's important to the Democrats for the second reason: They win when all politics are small and localized. The Democrats win when the arguments of the day are social or cultural - becuase most mature democracies, like the U.S. today, turn socialist in nature. So if large geopolitical concerns like terrorism and aggressive, expansionist Islamo-fascism take a back seat in the internal politics of the U.S., the Democrats will more elections more often. They want the discussion to be about health care, education, child care, the problems of working moms, prescription drugs, the environment, spanking children, and so forth and so on. When our politics are based in these issues, their socialist viewpoints win for them consistently...because most female voters, minority voters and even a chunk of the male voters are looking for security in a social sense, not in a geopolitical one. Small politics at the personal level.

That's the Democrat's winning forumla, and they are relentless in pursuing the hegemony of those issues which bring them victory.

21 posted on 01/14/2007 8:46:27 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Globe Columnist: 'Accept Iran's Dominant Influence In The Middle East'

All this surrenduring has to be keeping the libs busy! They've got to give up on half a dozen fronts these days. They're going to have to bring in some French consultants if this keeps up.

22 posted on 01/14/2007 9:01:49 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I agree that this stategy is reprehensible. But in general I am not one to denigrate too much the reputation of Neville Chamberlain. We all should read Winston Churchill's encomium to Chamberlain (available on the web) and recognize that Chamberlain's naivete and wish for peace did not make him unpatriotic.


23 posted on 01/14/2007 9:06:09 AM PST by Remole
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Why stop with letting Iran call the shots in the Middle East? We could accept/establish an Islamic theocracy worldwide, first in the US -- as an example for the rest of the world. Sharia, lopping off limbs, heads, stoning women to death, whatever makes Islamofascists happy. Presumably Robert Rotberg and others of his ilk (Liberal fools), believe they'd be exempt. Not so.


24 posted on 01/14/2007 9:13:36 AM PST by hershey
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To: Remole
...and recognize that Chamberlain's naivete and wish for peace did not make him unpatriotic.

You are historically correct.

However, while Chamberlain remained a patriot, isn't there reason to believe that a majority of the American left is not?

25 posted on 01/14/2007 9:15:48 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What an absolute a$$hole.


26 posted on 01/14/2007 9:20:30 AM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: NonValueAdded

"Ah, the Jimmy Carter solution! "Sorry, the problem is here to stay and best we learn to live with it."

Well, according to Kerry, terrorism is just a nuisance we'll have to learn to live with so this guy falls right in line.


27 posted on 01/14/2007 9:43:24 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Former President of Lafayette College...

Well that makes perfect sense. Lousyette College.

28 posted on 01/14/2007 9:54:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-a-a-ying, is give Beast a chance.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Director of Harvards's Kennedy School Program on Intrastate Conflict and Conflict Resolution.


Can't these "Progressive" appeasers see that islamofascism is not as any other kind of "conflict" which can be resolved by lowering the heat?...That you can appease it out of its conflict. Its whole nature and raison d'etre is about conflict. Conflict with anything other than itself? Appeasing it only endangers more lives, prolongs the agony even longer, bring more misery to more people, allows the flood to only grow stronger and bolder and overtake everything. WHEN would appeasing be ENOUGH??? These moronic mindsets WILL NOT resolve the world's "conflicts" with islamofascism, it will EMPOWER IT.
29 posted on 01/14/2007 10:48:53 AM PST by parisa (`1 Z)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He is either ignorant of the role Iran's government has played in Iraq and continues to play in Iraq - arming and training both Sunnis and Shia (so-called "managed chaos") to kill Americans and each other - or he's simply indifferent to the suffering they cause to Iraqis, Iranians, Lebanese, and Israelis. If he's indifferent, why does anyone so callous deserve the forum to say what he says? If he's unknowing and hence a philistine, why does someone so ignorant get to say what he says? The MSM is increasingly willing to give anyone a platform as long as he works for our enemies. The motives may be unknown, but the evidence of their ignorance is too self-evident to ignore.


30 posted on 01/14/2007 11:09:38 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Saddam was against Iraq's liberation before the Democrats and MSM.)
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To: parisa

Just throw everybody under the bus. Jews, Lebanese, Iraqis, Saudis and other gulf states. Then what? Don't you know they are coming after Britain and the US?


31 posted on 01/14/2007 11:10:39 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: piasa

"Burg" is town, amigo.


32 posted on 01/14/2007 11:12:01 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Saddam was against Iraq's liberation before the Democrats and MSM.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

But even Neville Chamberlain grew a brain....


33 posted on 01/14/2007 11:18:25 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I remember the good old days -- "Better Red Than Dead" was the leftards chant then.


34 posted on 01/14/2007 11:19:42 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"The only way to promote sustainable peace, stability, and order in Iraq is to forge an unholy alliance with Iran -- and accept Iran's dominant influence in the Middle East. Only by accepting Iranian hegemonic pretensions, odious as they are, can the United States extricate itself somewhat honorably from Iraq."

Or we could turn every military and military-industrial facility into glass plains. Probably have to use nuclear bunker busters in some cases where the facility is buried.

35 posted on 01/14/2007 3:51:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

England and France should have accepted Nazi Germany's dominant economic, military and political position in central Europe in 1939 according to this guy?


36 posted on 01/14/2007 3:55:19 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

How about they accept our dominance?


37 posted on 01/14/2007 8:15:19 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Tarpon
I remember the good old days -- "Better Red Than Dead" was the leftards chant then.

Yep, "Better Dhmini. than Dead" is their new chant, but of course that might not be the choice, the only choice might be "Muslim or Dead". Maybe even just dead if you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

38 posted on 01/14/2007 9:47:20 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thank God that no one takes Mr. Redhill seriously--yet. Like many academics he thinks he is living in Europe.


39 posted on 01/14/2007 9:50:38 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Remole
We all should read Winston Churchill's encomium to Chamberlain (available on the web) and recognize that Chamberlain's naivete and wish for peace did not make him unpatriotic.

Chamberlain's sell out did have one useful effect. It bought time for the Brits to get the RAF a bit more built up, and more importantly to get the Chain Home radar stations into service. These provided the margin of Victory in the Battle of Britain.

But the Dems are not interested in buying time, and if fact any delay will only aid the enemy.

The only solace is that they will be the first to lose their heads.

40 posted on 01/14/2007 10:06:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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