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Nuclear Blast on TV's '24' Causes Fallout for Fox (PC crybaby alert)
ABC News ^ | 1/15/07

Posted on 01/16/2007 6:06:00 AM PST by rintense

"How much longer? I hear someone," says the nervous terrorist with a heavy Middle Eastern accent, just before U.S. agents storm a warehouse where a nuclear device is being assembled. Confusion reigns, drama builds, the device is detonated and a mushroom cloud looms over Los Angeles. Such is primetime television in the age of terrorism, or as some critics charge, has "24" gone too far?

"It's the closest television comes to roller coasters," said David Bianculli, television critic for the New York Daily News. "It works well dramatically, and as far as feeding fears, that's what '24' is all about."

Sut Jhally, co-producer and co-director of the film "Hijacking Catastrophe," says the dramatic action in the show creates a dangerous climate in which the public loses some of its perspective on what's real and what's not. Of course that may be a minority opinion given the show's enormous popularity.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 24; nuclear; proliferation; television; terrorism
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To: rintense

The first 4 hours of 24 this season was the first time I watched it.

You can order 24 the first 5 seasons TODAY ONLY from Amazon.com for 124.99 with free shipping.


401 posted on 01/16/2007 9:00:41 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake.)
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To: Alouette

I know the muslims are fun loving people. They have fun torturing American soldiers they've captured, sawing off heads with a dull knife, sending a metal pole up the backside of someone then standing the pole upright and showing it on tv. Of couse everyone in the world saw these happenings on tv, except in America, 'cause it might hurt someones sensibilities. Bull, let Americans see what some of these people are capable of doing.


402 posted on 01/16/2007 9:02:10 AM PST by tillacum
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To: oceanview
you clearly haven't watched the show. 24 isn't "leftist".

"24" is like a Rorschach test. People see what they want to see. Of course, movies are the same way. And newspapers, TV news, and radio. The age of "truthiness" reigns.

403 posted on 01/16/2007 9:03:01 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Bigg Red
the guy who seems to be ultimately pulling the strings as he is seen on the phone several times giving the president orders appears to be a very WASPish-looking American sitting in some executive suite.

Oh oh oh -- you're talking about the balding guy with glasses, the one that seemed to President Logan's "puppet master" last season. I saw Jack talking to him in the preview's for next week's show. Can't wait to find out the story about who he is, where he's from. Last season we were thinking Big Oil or something cliche like that.

404 posted on 01/16/2007 9:03:40 AM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
'The new President on "24" has to be a democrat.'

Possibly a preview of Osama Obama???????

405 posted on 01/16/2007 9:04:29 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: blinachka

Potty breaks? Why? I've never seen anyone on the show drink coffee or beer.


406 posted on 01/16/2007 9:06:20 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: Cheburashka
Why do I not believe that?

Not to worry. They'll soon explain why the one guy for whom they carried out that elaborate prison break is, in fact, not necessary to the plan. Along with the one component they aboslutely had to have. I love the show, but I sometimes think "24" refers to the number of gaping plot holes in each season.

407 posted on 01/16/2007 9:06:22 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: EmilyGeiger
I haven't seen Jericho. What station does it air on?

CBS

408 posted on 01/16/2007 9:07:48 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Haha! Me neither! And I imagine that if the end of the world were near the adrenaline rush of trying to save it would allow you to either a)hold it or b) wet yourself! And afterall, saving the world is a wee bit more important than using the toilet! :)


409 posted on 01/16/2007 9:08:41 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: RockinRight
So how is it that while the show's concept is each season is a 24 hour period in Bauer's life that the show has progressed several years in its run? Do they skip entire years or presidential terms between seasons?

Yes. For example, Jack spent 2 years in a Chinese prison. 24 has never picked up from the previous season (day)

410 posted on 01/16/2007 9:09:06 AM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: RockinRight
So how is it that while the show's concept is each season is a 24 hour period in Bauer's life that the show has progressed several years in its run? Do they skip entire years or presidential terms between seasons?

That's exactly right. The show is about a series of huge crisis days. This season occurs 20 months after last season. Things happen, new presidents arrive, we just find out about the happenings in the interregnum incidentally.

411 posted on 01/16/2007 9:09:36 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: rintense

If someone has already posted this.. sorry.. I can't read over 400 posts:
The man who said that about 24 - Sut Jhalley- is a terrorist sympathizer anyway. I got this from IMDB about one of his docs:

Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire (2004)
It sheds much needed light on shocking use of the tragedies of September 11th 2001 by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and others in the George W. Bush administration as a tool to implement their terrifying neo-conservative agenda.

Nice that ABC uses Jhalley's quote, not once revealing the fact of where he stands.


412 posted on 01/16/2007 9:09:51 AM PST by conservochick (Nothing is more obstinate than a fashionable consensus. /Thatcher)
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To: rintense

My first concern, as it should be for all of us, is how has it affected Hillary?


413 posted on 01/16/2007 9:12:06 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: painter
I remember on a previous show him breifing "his" kids on what to say if anyone asks about thier family.

From what I've been able to figure out, the kids really are his but he had been estranged from the family for several years before showing up to get them out of Washington.

414 posted on 01/16/2007 9:15:03 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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To: rintense

So long as we allow Mooselimbs into the country we will be in mortal danger. It is a cult of death with direct links to the Nazis of WWII. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who espoused all of this natred toward the Jews was Hitler's personal guest during the war. And then Arafat brought the modern era of terrorism to the ME in the late 1960s and we pretended not to notice.

"Haj Amin al-Husseini eventually died in exile in 1974. He never returned to Jerusalem after his 1937 departure. His place as leader of the radical, nationalist Palestinian Arabs was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat. In August 2002, Arafat gave an interview in which he referred to "our hero al-Husseini" as a symbol of Palestinian Arab resistance."

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php


415 posted on 01/16/2007 9:15:16 AM PST by RichardW
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To: bill1952
"...professor of communications at University of Massachusetts. "Given their propaganda system, it doesn't surprise me."

Given that title, and at that institution, his statement is the apex of hypocrisy..."

"DING DING DING! What do we have for her, Johnny?"

THAT was spot on, bill1952!

416 posted on 01/16/2007 9:15:16 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: mathluv

Obama was my first thought when I saw this thread.

Perhaps ABC should start their own show and call it "100" as the first hours of their congress.

Lets see Jack Murtha takes on the Al-Tuna terroists who are Samoan and are demanding to be exempted from minimum wage laws.

The clock could be reset numerous times.


417 posted on 01/16/2007 9:16:13 AM PST by O.B.E. (Politics is but war by other means)
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To: eyespysomething
No. Magic Mountain (i.e. Valencia) got nuked. The total population of that area is less than 200K. Maybe a 10th of that number got killed by the blast.
418 posted on 01/16/2007 9:16:16 AM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: Chi-townChief

"Television shows like '24' also reinforce stereotypes about Arabs..."

Fox and '24' covered their butts by having a GOOD Arab terrorist and BAD terrorists


419 posted on 01/16/2007 9:17:12 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Peach

""In CTU headquarters — which is information central — they are always watching Fox News," Biancilli said. "Now that is ridiculous."

Years ago, it was always CNN. I have a "retired" military friend who now contracts. Some time ago he told me that CNN was always on at his place of employment and often was the conduit of something big coming their way.

They now watch Fox.


420 posted on 01/16/2007 9:18:35 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: RockinRight
I need to start watching this show.

Me too. Never seen it.

421 posted on 01/16/2007 9:18:35 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

I think it's on either ABC or CBS but I'm not sure. In Canada I pick it up on a local station and the Sci-Fi channel repeats it later in the week.


422 posted on 01/16/2007 9:20:03 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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To: Peach

I seem to remember a certain political ad by a certain political candidate of a certain political party back in 1964 wehre a little girl was picking daisies when an atomic bomb went off. Oh, but that ad was shown only once (that was paid for)so that makes it ok.


423 posted on 01/16/2007 9:21:35 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: freeperfromnj

There was President Logan in between. And when Logan went down presumably the VP went in like Ford, and Palmer won the next election. That's my take.


424 posted on 01/16/2007 9:22:13 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: SlowBoat407
Murphy Brown

That put Ms.Bergen on my list that includes Jane Fonda; Alec Baldwin and Susan Sarandon.

"DO NOT WATCH"

425 posted on 01/16/2007 9:22:41 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: rintense

isn't the whole show "Jericho" based on this ?


426 posted on 01/16/2007 9:23:12 AM PST by sappy
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To: SittinYonder

LOL! Excellently pithy analysis.


427 posted on 01/16/2007 9:24:30 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: popdonnelly
possibly, but what is interesting is that the show is not bowing down to the 'PC' game and it is very relevant to our situation.
428 posted on 01/16/2007 9:24:59 AM PST by sasha123
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To: Alouette

Arabs? Kal Penn is of Hindu Indian descent and his character is intended to be Pakistani. It isn't about Arabs (MASH and Make Room for Daddy had Arab characters) it's about Muslims.

What was MASH supposed to reinforce, that Arabs were cross-dressers?


429 posted on 01/16/2007 9:25:13 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Television shows like '24' also reinforce stereotypes about Arabs

Stereotypes often arise out of inconvenient facts. Since the end of Northern Ireland's "troubles" show me a terrorist who isn't a Muslim.

430 posted on 01/16/2007 9:25:45 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Squawk 8888
Little Mosque on the Prairie

Are you serious?

431 posted on 01/16/2007 9:26:41 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

They don't "take tickets" but transit cops randomly will ask people for their ticket. That's how it works in Houston anyway.


432 posted on 01/16/2007 9:27:28 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

And St. Louis.


433 posted on 01/16/2007 9:27:41 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: SlowBoat407
Good morning.
"...Jack had lost his edge after being tortured in a Chinese prison for two years..."

There's nothing like a mushroom cloud rising over Valencia to hone that edge again, judging by the last thing Jack says.

To me, good buddy Achmed and his betrayal of his American friends was what the show was all about.

Michael Frazier
434 posted on 01/16/2007 9:27:47 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: rintense

Didnt they have a nuclear cruise missile explode in one of the earlier seasons? More fake news.


435 posted on 01/16/2007 9:29:17 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: ssaftler

Wayne's weeniness dovetails nicely with Obama/Osama's empty suit. Anyone who's watched the past seasons of 24 and know that Wayne was previously his brother's advisor will probably smile at the parallels to Obama's similar "credentials" for president.


436 posted on 01/16/2007 9:30:06 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: alisasny
Logan was the VP under the first President Palmer.

Actually, wasn't the VP under Palmer I the one who tried to invoke the 25th amendment against him and then had to resign when David won in the end? I think Logan must have been appointed after that.

437 posted on 01/16/2007 9:31:03 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: rintense

What? Nobody ever saw "The Day After"?


438 posted on 01/16/2007 9:31:48 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: alisasny
Logan was the VP under the first President Palmer.

ALSO -- just remembered that the VP under Logan last season was blown up in an airplane, so we don't know who the replacement veep was.

439 posted on 01/16/2007 9:32:06 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: colorado tanker
Since the end of Northern Ireland's "troubles" show me a terrorist who isn't a Muslim.

The Basques are still at it, but they're strictly a regional operation. Here in North America there's also the eco-freaks but it's low-grade stuff; they go after specific targets rather than the general public.

440 posted on 01/16/2007 9:32:11 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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To: rintense

"But some national security experts worry that television fantasy can trigger the imagination of terrorists.
Jack Cloonan, a former senior agent on the FBI's bin Laden squad in New York,
said that trainees in former al-Qaeda camps watched movie videos "to get ideas."

Uh oh....I hope Al Queda doesn't watch 24.
It might give them the idea to use suicide bombers and suitcase nukes.


441 posted on 01/16/2007 9:32:33 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: onedoug

We missed out.


442 posted on 01/16/2007 9:33:45 AM PST by windcliff
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

He seems to be the only man more irascible than she is. She's changed though, dressing up in a suit etc.


443 posted on 01/16/2007 9:33:50 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx.")
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To: EmilyGeiger

I was telling my grandson this morning that I found a flaw in the story and that was that the scientist and a part were needed to detonate the bomb. What's up with the other 4? My grandson and I watched Sunday and Monday together... we are HUGE fans and what fun we have sharing the show. Oh and for all the pc folks, he is old enough to watch.

And even if, as you asked about there being 4 or 5 total of those parts, they would have gone up in the blast. Unless of course there are 4 more parts scattered all over the country? They don't usually leave such gaping inconsistencies that I notice and I'm sure they won't here either. I'm just curious how they will work it out.


444 posted on 01/16/2007 9:34:22 AM PST by myrabach
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
"Imagine how inconceivable it would be to have a Kennedy who didn't follow the family party-line. If there is such a Kennedy, I haven't heard of him/her."

From what I've read, if there was one, it was likely JFK Jr. whom, aside from Ann Coulter speaking highly of him & if nothing else, at least had the good sense to distance himself somewhat from the rest of that braying herd of self-important drunkards, rapists & sundry other moral bankrupts.

BTW, surely there isn't a better example of the self-proclaimed 'egalitarian' (snicker!) left's shameless hypocrisy than it's fawning worship of the members of alleged 'political dynasties' like the Kennedy and, up here, Trudeau families ??? Sheesh !!!
445 posted on 01/16/2007 9:36:04 AM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Montfort

To add to the lore, "Rothschild," which means "red sign" in mediaeval German, was supposedly adopted because of the sign he hung out over his store.

Which means that the name should not be pronounced "roths-child," but more like "rote-shildt."


446 posted on 01/16/2007 9:37:00 AM PST by Erasmus (Able was Napolopan ere Napolopan saw Elba.)
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To: rintense
It was intended for somewhere else (LA?). The iSlamofascists detonated the device prematurely as their compound was being raided by CTU.
447 posted on 01/16/2007 9:37:28 AM PST by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: ichabod1
ALSO -- just remembered that the VP under Logan last season was blown up in an airplane

Wasn't it the President that was killed in Air Force 1 that allowed Logan to ascend to the Presidency? Still brings up the 25th Amendment part about replacement veep, though I seem to recall there was someone on the show...

448 posted on 01/16/2007 9:37:30 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
It might give them the idea to use suicide bombers and suitcase nukes.

Are you kidding? A suitcase nuke and some dumb kid looking for 72 virgins is every Islamist's wet dream.

449 posted on 01/16/2007 9:42:54 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Pluto's been marginalized! Call the ACLU!)
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To: Miss Marple

sure and when this president get killed the sister will be the next president because of her ACLU/CAIR type character. The woman wil come and save us all. /sarc.
I enjoy the show, but even more, I love how it drives the rats absolutely bonkers.


450 posted on 01/16/2007 9:43:47 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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