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Redford demands apology over Iraq
BBC News ^ | January 19, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 01/19/2007 5:58:44 AM PST by MadIvan

Hollywood legend Robert Redford has called on US leaders to apologise for the war in Iraq.

The actor was speaking at the start of the Sundance Film Festival in Utah, where the opening movie recalled protests over the Vietnam war in 1968.

Redford said he, like many others, had shown a "spirit of unity" with the US government after 11 September 2001.

"We put all our concerns on hold to let the leaders lead," he said. "I think we're owed a big, massive apology."

The actor, whose Sundance Institute for independent film runs the annual festival, usually steers clear of political messages in his opening speech.

Festival opener Chicago 10 recounts the demonstrations surrounding 1968's Democratic National Convention, which saw protestors clash with the National Guard.

Using a cutting-edge blend of historical footage and animation, director Brett Morgen's film examines the trial of the famed "Chicago Seven," who were convicted of inciting riots.

Morgen, who took the stage to a standing ovation after the screening, said one of his goals in making the film was to "mobilise the youth in the country to get out and stop this war".

His film is one of many referencing the Iraq conflict at this year's Sundance festival.

Ghosts of Abu Ghraib deals with the abuses that occurred in an Iraqi prison in 2003, while No End In Sight is an examination of the Bush administration's conduct in the country.

Taboos broken

The programme for the festival has attracted controversy with the inclusion of films that include shocking sexual content.

A documentary called Zoo deals with the practice of bestiality.

And the dark drama Hounddog portrays the rape of a young girl, played by 12-year-old actress Dakota Fanning.

"Those are issues that are on the table, whether you want to face them or not," said Redford.

"If you don't expose these things, if you don't put the light on them, then they could get worse."

But the event also features many films with a more uplifting feel.

The Good Life, from writer and director Steve Berra, tells of a young man running an old cinema in a small town.

Padre Nuestro is about a young man who meets up with a group of illegal immigrants heading from Mexico to New York after he chooses to flee his criminal past.

More than 120 films will be screened throughout the 10-day festival, which ends on 28 January.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apology; bush; iraq; redford
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To: MadIvan

Redford ia little midget whose body size is dwarfed only by his mentality, but low intellect is a common trait among the prostitutes of the screen who think miming a role makes them an expert on a subject.

There are so many valid reaons for having invaded Iraq that repeating them for the benefit of mental midgets like him is an exercize in futility.


101 posted on 01/19/2007 9:05:26 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: sauropod

Your tagline is greatness!


102 posted on 01/19/2007 9:06:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: MadIvan

O.K Robert, here is your apology.

I am sorry you are such a jerk.


103 posted on 01/19/2007 9:06:50 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: MadIvan
He should apologise for most of his films apart from "The Natural" and "A River Runs Through It".

If you read the Bernard Malamud original, I think you'd agree that the Robert Redford version of "The Natural" is an abomination.

104 posted on 01/19/2007 9:13:56 AM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: MadIvan

You can bet the Sundance "traitor" festival was 100% safe from a Muslim terrorist attack. If Osama showed up these folks wouldn't even turn him in.


105 posted on 01/19/2007 9:16:20 AM PST by ohioman
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To: MadIvan

"Once you've enjoyed watching people have sex with goats and 12-year-old moppets, please help yourselves to the piles of expensive free stuff in the swag tents."


106 posted on 01/19/2007 9:56:29 AM PST by lazypadawan
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To: BigDaddyTX

"Next time we have a dem president you'll see a flood of flag waiving, American hero, salute the flag type movies with all the usual idiots headlining."

National Socialism???


107 posted on 01/19/2007 10:03:16 AM PST by maxsand
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To: veronica

Sad to see.

He was sooo pretty, and, as far as we knew then, he was normal.


108 posted on 01/19/2007 10:17:51 AM PST by altura
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To: MadIvan

The Natural is my favorite sports film.

I really wish Redford would stop trying to ruin it for me.


109 posted on 01/19/2007 10:19:08 AM PST by altura
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To: ridesthemiles

You ever wonder why those lists of registered sexual offenders are so BIG???

Especially for criminals that everyone knows do it again?

Maybe it's because testimony from the victims is from children who are notoriously bad witnesses and probably scared to death as well.


110 posted on 01/19/2007 10:22:39 AM PST by altura
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To: MadIvan

I think Redford owes me a big apology for his lies.


111 posted on 01/19/2007 10:23:19 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ssaftler

A River runs through it.

Yeah. Nothin' ever happened, did it?

But it was a rather pretty film.


112 posted on 01/19/2007 10:24:49 AM PST by altura
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To: camle

LOL


113 posted on 01/19/2007 10:52:00 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: altura
But it was a rather pretty film.

Yeah, but I recall seeing Curt Gowdy doing similar stuff on "The American Sportsman" when I was a kid, and that was on FREE TV! Why I had to shell out $8 (or whatever it cost back then) to see a stretched out version of "Sportsman" without the dulcet tones of Curt Gowdy narrating is yet another reason to complain about Red Robert.

114 posted on 01/19/2007 11:11:51 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: MadIvan
I for one liked the images of Montana. It's obviously a beautiful state.

I have a couple friends who grew up there. As they said, Montana is where "Men are men, women are scarce and sheep are scared!".

But if you like high temps of 30 below in the winter, I guess you could say it's beautiful...

115 posted on 01/19/2007 11:15:11 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: Calpernia
WHO?

Exactly if not for the Sundance Kid nobody would know his name.

116 posted on 01/19/2007 11:16:23 AM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: Skywarner
I'm still waiting for him to apologize for that crap he tries to pawn off as salad dressing.

You're confusing Butch Cassidy (aka Paul Newman) with the Sundance Kid (aka Red Robert). But Newman's a barking moonbat too, so we'll call it even.

117 posted on 01/19/2007 11:16:49 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: rocksblues
:)
118 posted on 01/19/2007 11:21:19 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
The Film Actors Guild strikes again...
119 posted on 01/19/2007 11:26:33 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

That was cute!


120 posted on 01/19/2007 11:29:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MadIvan
"We put all our concerns on hold to let the leaders lead," he said. "I think we're owed a big, massive apology."

I saw a couple pictures of Redford recently, what he really needs is a "big, massive apology" from his plastic surgeon.

121 posted on 01/19/2007 11:34:19 AM PST by RJL
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To: MadIvan
After reading on another thread about the kind of "entertainment" portrayed in the films for his festival, I have to say that he has more to apologize for than anyone else does.

Carolyn

122 posted on 01/19/2007 11:50:47 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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As soon as the Left apologizes for all the damage and waste caused by the failed war on poverty, and as soon as they provide an exit strategy from it.


123 posted on 01/19/2007 11:53:47 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
The left still hasn't apologized for loosing the Viet Nam War.
124 posted on 01/19/2007 2:23:09 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: fleagle

Yeah,you think it is bad,you do not ever want to see his face on a big screen TV in hi DEF.It will make you sick.The imperfections in his face will look like a newly found planet.When girls go crazy over his 'ruggedly' handsome looks,remember these people are the next generation leaders of our country.Be afraid,be VERY afraid!


125 posted on 01/19/2007 2:33:11 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: Calpernia
Hollywood legend Robert Redford....

Does he still have those bumps on his face?

126 posted on 01/19/2007 3:11:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MadIvan

Spoken like an actor with a syphilis-ridden brain, Redford neglected to suggest the mass murderers of 2900 innocents apologize too. Comments from hollywood since 911 have only revealed a deeper level of stupidity than I ever imagined.


127 posted on 01/19/2007 3:14:42 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: MadIvan
Hollywood legend wash-up Robert Redford has called on US leaders to apologise for the war in Iraq.

There ... now it's fixed.

128 posted on 01/19/2007 3:21:45 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Judges' orders cannot stop determined criminals. Firearms and the WILL to use them can.)
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To: TYVets

That's because they're proud of that. America got "knocked down a notch".


129 posted on 01/19/2007 3:31:48 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MadIvan

The way to become a "legend" in Hollywood is to get old. In Redford's case, not only is he aging, but his once-handsome face looks like the Picture of Dorian Gray come to life.


130 posted on 01/19/2007 3:34:28 PM PST by Wolfstar ("Common sense is not so common." Voltaire, 1764)
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To: MadIvan

Gorgeous woman, Veronica Lake.


131 posted on 01/19/2007 3:37:02 PM PST by Wolfstar ("Common sense is not so common." Voltaire, 1764)
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To: MadIvan
Ben stein says it much better than I can...

"How can a man or woman who makes an eight-figure wage and lives in insane luxury really be a star in today's world, if by a star we mean someone bright and powerful and attractive as a role model? Real stars are not riding around in the backs of limousines or in Porsches or getting trained in yoga or Pilates and eating only raw fruit while they have Vietnamese girls do their nails.

They can be interesting, nice people, but they are not heroes to me any longer. A real star is the soldier of the 4th Infantry Division who poked his head into a hole on a farm near Tikrit, Iraq. He could have been met by a bomb or a hail of AK-47 bullets. Instead, he faced an abject Saddam Hussein and the gratitude of all of the decent people of the world.

A real star is the U.S. soldier who was sent to disarm a bomb next to a road north of Baghdad. He approached it, and the bomb went off and killed him.

A real star, the kind who haunts my memory night and day, is the U.S. soldier in Baghdad who saw a little girl playing with a piece of unexploded ordnance on a street near where he was guarding a station. He pushed her aside and threw himself on it just as it exploded. He left a family desolate in California and a little girl alive in Baghdad.

The stars who deserve media attention are not the ones who have lavish weddings on TV but the ones who patrol the streets of Mosul even after two of their buddies were murdered and their bodies battered and stripped for the sin of trying to protect Iraqis from terrorists.

We put couples with incomes of $100 million a year on the covers of our magazines. The noncoms and officers who barely scrape by on military pay but stand on guard in Afghanistan and Iraq and on ships and in submarines and near the Arctic Circle are anonymous as they live and die. I am no longer comfortable being a part of the system that has such poor values, and I do not want to perpetuate those values by pretending that who is eating at Morton's is a big subject."


~ Ben Stein ~


Redford and his band of navel gazers are the ones that need to apologize.
132 posted on 01/19/2007 4:04:55 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: camle

re: 4
hee hee hee!!
No doubt.


133 posted on 01/19/2007 4:46:12 PM PST by MeekMom (Present your bodies a living sacrifice unto God.)
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To: Spruce

re: 34
Yeah! I love watching her on screen. She's awfully pretty.


134 posted on 01/19/2007 4:50:58 PM PST by MeekMom (Present your bodies a living sacrifice unto God.)
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To: areafiftyone
Amen bro.

I'm sticking it to Hollyweird, though I cannot say how.

135 posted on 01/19/2007 4:52:12 PM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: highlander_UW

re: 69
Excellent!


136 posted on 01/19/2007 4:58:04 PM PST by MeekMom (Present your bodies a living sacrifice unto God.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

>>>Does he still have those bumps on his face?

I think that was for compliance with the American Disability Act. A blind person joined his fan club.


137 posted on 01/19/2007 5:10:50 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: lormand

Besides financially we can stick it to Hollywierd by making sure Republicans get elected in 2008.


138 posted on 01/19/2007 5:16:12 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: MadIvan

These Hollywood idiots are playing right into the terrorists hands.

It's almost like we're not just fighting Al Quida anymore, our fight is against the MILLIONAIRE pseudo celebrities who's pockets we poor saps have lined over the years.


139 posted on 01/19/2007 5:23:45 PM PST by LisaMalia (God Bless President Bush and our Troops....still proud of my Buckeyes!....)
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To: MadIvan

How about an I'm sorry for The Electric Horseman?

And that bad plastic surgery job of his?


140 posted on 01/19/2007 5:27:08 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: samtheman

It is difficult to see how someone so divorced from reality and so looked into sophomoric Anti-Americanism can shed light on anything. What is it exactly that he has illuminated other than an emotional attachment to the irrational?


141 posted on 01/19/2007 5:30:05 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: MadIvan

Break a leg, Robert! Don't stop there......break both arms, your pretty nose...and oh yes,.... now that will be a difficult job (thick you know)....YOUR CRANIUM!


142 posted on 01/19/2007 5:30:48 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Armedanddangerous

He's had plastic surgery? He has a good case for a lawsuit.


143 posted on 01/19/2007 5:31:10 PM PST by altura (Woefully lacking in delicacy and tact, but working on it.)
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To: LisaMalia
The true irony is, the Terrorists want HOLLYWOOD dead first and foremost. The consider Hollywood as the corrupter of morality and Islamic doctrine.

Perhaps Redford will volunteer to be the first one to be beheaded by the Imams. (Wishful thinking?)
144 posted on 01/19/2007 5:32:18 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: MadIvan

Just as soon as Redford apologizes for "All The President's Men".


145 posted on 01/19/2007 5:32:59 PM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: MadIvan

Don't forget Redford's *The Milagro Beanfield War*, a sweet film ...


146 posted on 01/19/2007 5:35:15 PM PST by Kindred.Sprite
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; All
The true irony is, the Terrorists want HOLLYWOOD dead first and foremost. The consider Hollywood as the corrupter of morality and Islamic doctrine.

You know what? I've always thought the same. But the more I think about it, I think the "morality" factor is just a game with them. I think what the Terrorist really detest is goodness, character, Christianity and freedom. So they may see most of the Hollywood elite as their allies.

147 posted on 01/19/2007 5:45:19 PM PST by LisaMalia (God Bless President Bush and our Troops....still proud of my Buckeyes!....)
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To: MadIvan

Redford is so tiresome.


148 posted on 01/19/2007 6:54:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MadIvan
*sigh*

I think you're just confused again, bob. See, the CIA guy you played in "Condor" was very low level. Plus he went to a paper that was going to tell his story, so to speak. I believe your character talked to someone named "Jayson." Let me know how that went for you, mmmkay?

Now, that baldwin fellow played a character with a much higher pay grade than you. That makes him much smarter, right?

And much MORE qualified to call a press conference to explain why you two didn't use your CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES to help out "demand an apology" and "...put all our concerns on hold to let the leaders lead" (what a couple of slugs, BTW).

And when I think back to the protests in the '60s, I don't remember EVER seeing a monied, preppy blonde protester. "The Way We Think We Remember The Distant Past And That We Maybe Had A Relationship With A Character Who Also Has The Same Faulty Memory" was not the name of the movie, mmmkay?

149 posted on 01/20/2007 3:45:30 AM PST by Watery Tart (Teach me a lesson! Bring back the Fairness Doctrine! </sarc>)
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To: Common Tator
Hi Tator...I thought you may be interested in this.

Festival opener Chicago 10 recounts the demonstrations surrounding 1968's Democratic National Convention, which saw protestors clash with the National Guard.

director Brett Morgen ... said one of his goals in making the film was to
"mobilise the youth in the country to get out and stop this war".

His film is one of many referencing the Iraq conflict at this year's Sundance festival

150 posted on 01/20/2007 12:35:01 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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