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Duke's Tenured Vigilantes (DukeLax)
The Weekly Standard ^ | Jan 20, 2007 | Charlotte Allen

Posted on 01/20/2007 2:52:54 AM PST by abb

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To: xoxoxox

OK, check out the Swiss and the Hungarians.... Crud. I'm in trouble...


101 posted on 01/21/2007 7:57:09 PM PST by Dukie07
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To: Locomotive Breath

LOL.. OMGoodness. Too funny. Thanks for the link.


102 posted on 01/21/2007 8:01:28 PM PST by Dukie07
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To: Locomotive Breath

BTW, if you're still up, how are the roads in Raleigh? Student went to a concert tonight at Raleigh Memorial. (Weatherunderground said freezing rain????)


103 posted on 01/21/2007 8:03:45 PM PST by Dukie07
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To: All

http://www.heraldsun.com/opinion/hsletters/

Durham needs God

Now would be a good time to erect a stone tablet of the Ten Commandments and place it in front of the Durham County Courthouse. Can it be any more apparent that without God's law to inspire us, our justice system becomes a reflection of our own prejudices resulting in a vicious cycle of injustice?

Paula Mann
Durham
January 22, 2007


The wrong choice?

Last November, the voters of Durham County were given a choice of candidates for the job of district attorney: a left-wing, liberal idiot who had no political experience or understanding of the job, a civil lawyer who stated he would not serve if he was elected and an experienced criminal lawyer. One in eight voted for the criminal lawyer. The lawyer elected has embarrassed the county so much that Duke University's early applications have dropped 20 percent and he has turned the case that he campaigned on over to the state's attorney general.

Says a lot about the intelligence of Durham voters, doesn't it?

John L. Barker
Monroe
January 22, 2007


A question of leadership

After reading the Jan. 16 letters about the Duke lacrosse case, I was motivated to respond.

I am disturbed by the appearance of misconduct on the part of the district attorney's office. It is never appropriate to withhold information related to a criminal case regardless of the magnitude of the charges. It appears that perhaps the entire case was exaggerated.

With no evidence to convict on the rape charges, it is highly unlikely anything will come of this case except a lot of speculation on the public's part of what actually transpired the night of the alleged rape.

I am totally disappointed and discouraged that justice may not be served for either side of this case. I blame the alleged victim, the Duke lacrosse players, the Duke administration, the Police Department and the DA's office. They all failed the Durham community.

Unlike most of the letters to the editor, I do not wish that this case be dropped before the trial begins. That does not undo any wrongdoing on either side. I think that in order to bring closure to this case, the trial should be handled expeditiously with the evidence we have.

The LAX team could have prevented this situation by not sponsoring a party of this type with drinking and lewd conduct. This makes Duke look bad as well. The administration should have disciplined this team a lot sooner. From what I have been hearing, this is not the first time this team has done some inappropriate things.

The Police Department and the DA's office should follow procedures at all times.

Jay Jones
Durham
January 22, 2007


Watch your words

Jon Edge of Charlotte [Letters, Jan. 16] wrote that the City of Durham needs to "purge, and [he] don't just mean [District Attorney Mike] Nifong!"

I want to know what else he means. His letter speaks of the African-American community's response to the case. Particularly, he is concerned that outsiders such as the New Black Panthers came to town to protest. He refers to the accused as the "stripper" and seems to think our city has in some way embarrassed him.

So, what does he want to purge, the African-American community, strippers, his embarrassment, or maybe all of the above? I know that this case has invoked many emotions. But it would be wise to choose words carefully and not let anger and frustration about this case lead one to make racist comments, which will cause more embarrassment and shame than any legal case ever could.

Mike Silver
Durham
January 22, 2007


Here's the connection

Responding to Odessa Shaw's letter of Jan. 8: That Rep. Walter Jones called for an investigation of District Attorney Mike Nifong's handling of the Duke lacrosse case because of one defendant's family's alleged strong ties to the Republican party is a stretch.

The fact is that our district representative, David Price, a Democrat, was not willing to call for an investigation of Nifong, also a Democrat. That both Price and Nifong have mostly black constituents is the real connection.

C.B. BAGLEY
Durham
January 22, 2007


104 posted on 01/22/2007 2:49:13 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/21/rs.01.html

KURTZ: Well, I know who I find funnier, but O'Reilly was a good sport. Stick around for the second half hour of RELIABLE SOURCES. A black accuser, three white lacrosse players -- did news organizations fan the racial flames at Duke University?

And a free speech fight. A conservative radio station fights back against liberal bloggers.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KURTZ: Welcome back to RELIABLE SOURCES.

The Duke rape case which sparked such a media frenzy last spring when a black woman made allegations against three white lacrosse players has been slowly collapsing. The accuser changed her story so many times that the rape charges were dropped but sexual assault charges remained.

Prosecutor Mike Nifong bowed out of the case, turning it over to North Carolina's attorney general. But the media's role in this case remains controversial, as does that of the woman whose identity is being protected by news organizations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASH MICHAELS, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "THE CAROLINIAN": Here you had the perfect storm of a crime story. The steps over there, you couldn't breathe on those steps. There was a camera here from every part of the country because it was a good story.

GAIL DINES, SOCIOLOGY PROFESSOR< WHEELOCK COLLEGE: I think this woman has been hung out to dry by the media. I think questions about her morality, her emotional stability, her psychological stability, which is what happens to women in rape cases, and especially to women of color...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KURTZ: Joining us now from Boston, Callie Crossley, media commentator and panelist on WGBH's "Beat the Press." And in Toledo, Ohio, Christine Brennan, sports contributor for "USA Today" and a contributor to ABC News.

Christine Brennan, when I look back on the coverage, particularly those first few months, it just looks to me like an absolutely awful performance by the media, pumping this into a big national melodrama.

Would you argue with that?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, "USA TODAY": I'd agree with you, Howie, for sure on that. I think what we saw was the perfect storm for our media in 2006, in this 21st century, the sense that you've got all of these, what, 300 channels now out there, all this time to fill, 24/7, the sound bite rules, the quick hit, make it very simple for the viewer, try to keep that viewer for a few more minutes, fill the time as best you can. Really, an awful performance, an embarrassing time, I think, for journalism. I feel good personally about what I did on the story, Howie. I feel good about some of the mainstream coverage. But even those of us in the so-called mainstream I think went way too far and forgot the idea of restraint in journalism.

What do we know? When did we know? How did we learn it? Instead, for that ratings grab, for that hope of getting attention, keeping ratings, keeping circulation, I think some people lost their minds in this story.

KURTZ: Some people lost their minds.


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105 posted on 01/22/2007 2:49:54 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/opinions/ci_5058296

Ann Coulter: In Duke case, the Times, police have no clothes
Article Launched: 01/21/2007 08:58:30 PM PST


STUART Taylor Jr., the liberal but brilliant legal reporter for the National Journal, described The New York Times' coverage of the Duke lacrosse rape case as "\orse, perhaps, than the other recent Times embarrassments." For a newspaper that carries Maureen Dowd's column, that's saying something.

As the Times' most loyal reader, this came as welcome news. I had briefly suspected the Times was engaging in fair reporting of the alleged rape case at Duke University. Taylor's article documenting the Times' massive misrepresentations restored order and coherence to my world.

The first part of the story - the lie part - was angrily reported in the Times. But as the accuser's story began to unravel, the Times gave only a selective account of the facts, using its famed lie-by-omission technique.

Among the many gigantic omissions from the Times' pretend-balanced article ("Files From Duke Rape Case Give Details but No Answers") is the fact that the only remaining particulars about the case that are not completely exculpatory come from a memo by Sgt. Mark Gottlieb - written four months after the alleged incident.


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106 posted on 01/22/2007 2:50:17 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Dukie07

Sorry - news this am said "most of bad weather bypassed us"


107 posted on 01/22/2007 3:17:54 AM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Thank you for digging this up and posting, PTBR.

The 14-point agenda of the NC NAACP has come right out of the Marxist standard Agenda which amounts to "Destroy the U.S. Constitution".

The NC NAACP 14-point agenda doesn't represent America, but rather, and obviously, enemies of America.

108 posted on 01/22/2007 4:10:25 AM PST by Alia
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To: AndyJackson
Good point.

When I read Spivak's views, I had a different take. That she thought it may be perfectly right for non-white males to treat women as second class citizens, that it was wrong for white males to intervene when minority females were being abused, battered, raped, and murdered, but because only non-white males have that right to do with women as they will.

I thought instantly of how women are treated under the Taliban and elsewhere in the world where minority females are abused by minority males.

She probably hates all former US Abolitionists, too.

This creature, Spivak, hates women.

109 posted on 01/22/2007 4:14:49 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

Chicago Sun-Times

Innocent Duke lacrosse players stuck in P.C. nightmare

January 22, 2007

BY MARY LANEY

If I were one of the parents of the Duke lacrosse players I would be mad as hell right now. Those parents have been put through the wringer for seven months -- and forced to come up with God knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to protect their sons from what appear to be made-up accusations.
Their sons have been called racists and rapists and violent spoiled frat boys and more. Why? Because a black stripper accused the white boys of rape and an ambitious district attorney, running for office in Durham, N.C., saw the case that could bring him the winning votes from African Americans.

I have two sons and, had this nightmare happened to them, I would be going after not only the district attorney but some Duke professors and the university president as well. They put political correctness before due process in the railroading of these young Duke students.

Charles Osgood of CBS News once said, "Being politically correct is always having to say you're sorry." And some members of the faculty of Duke University were very politically correct last year. As soon as the now dubious claims of rape were leveled, 88 professors wrote an open letter decrying racism, sexism and sexual violence on that campus. They urged the student body to get out and let their voices be heard.

The president of Duke, being equally P.C., fired the lacrosse coach, suspended the players from school and canceled the rest of the championship lacrosse season -- all before a trial was held.

Meanwhile, the alleged victim was telling various stories. First, she told police she had been raped by a big group. Next, she told a nurse it had been three or five men.

The event hit the airwaves with the speed of a raging fire.

~~more~~

http://www.suntimes.com/news/laney/222495,...LANEY22.article


110 posted on 01/22/2007 4:26:01 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: JLS
Thank you for your thoughtful analysis and reply, JLS.

3. So in college professor are suppose to be seeking new knowledge. In high school teacher are suppose to know thoroughly the received view.

Thus primary and secondary teachers are licensed based on what they know. Who could license some engaged in the search for new knowledge?

These two points of yours is where many of the problems currently arise in Academia, in my experience. The primary/secondary curriculum, (certainly, I know this to be true) in California is being authored by college professors who have inserted this "new research" into the K-12 curriculum. The students, then arriving at colleges, are winding up in social science courses under the direction of professors who are dancing the wingding to "appear" as offering "newer research information". When in fact, they come across as flaming, wild-eyed, ranting lunatics. En sum, they've been bested by the curriculum being taught in grades K-12. And so, the best they can offer in the way of newer "research" engages in meta-parapsychological means and they thus appear as flaming Educational Regressives.

While the students in K-12 will have learned the prescribed nostrums ("America is evil, whites are evil, males are evil"), at the college levels the alleged repositories of "new research" engage in psychologic positioning of each and every student as the "victim", and the classrooms resemble more a social lab with live students, than an objective, fair-handed inquiry into newer ideas.

David Horowitz, FrontPageMag, this morning features a substantive analysis upon "education versus indoctrination" at Penn State. While Penn State has a substantive "educate/do not indoctrinate" policy in place, as the article shows, it is far too easy to move the goal lines. If students do not have the basis by which to know they are being indoctrinated, how can there be a measurement for assessment of a class. This was certainly so in California. May still be.

You can get rid of the untenured by giving them a one year notice of nonrenewal. You can only get rid of tenured faculty members for cause, misappropriation of state property or other criminal behavior.One year notice of nonrenewal. Is this to give the college time to find the replacement? One year's notice: to allow said professor to remedy and or negotiate/sue?

In my view the way to reform college departments is for:

I concur with each of your points outlined, but the one I am most keenly aware of and careful of is this:

3. Make it part of the job description that Professors will profess their discipline and not launch into nondiscipline related areas. That is that art or literature professors won't test people on politics. [BTW, keep in mind this one would most often be used as a club against any conservative academic who had been accidently hired.]

Already, and have witnessed this in CA. CA State/U system offered a counter "educational freedom" document (to David Horowitz initiative) which would, clearly, have been used against Conservative Professors. The ACLU has its hands into all matters in CA concerning "education" at all levels.

Would you have wanted this solution to break up the great 1970s University of Chicago economics department of Friedmand, Stigler, Becker, etal that produced many Nobel prize winners because they were all conservative economists? Would you want this to become an accredidation standard and used to force Liberty U or Hilsdale College to hire leftists?

Exactly, and no. And nor do I concur with "quotas" regarding political affiliation. This is exactly the hand the Marxists wish Constitutionalists and Conservatives to take, as it then would empower the rest of the "separate and divide" nation the Marxists wish to impose.

It is a tough problem that requires good university leadership to avoid or solve. And setting up a system to get good university leadership is as big a problem as Brodhead shows us.

I disagree with you not at all on this score. The problems must be addressed at all levels of education, IME.

In California, pre-D.Horowitz' initiative, we attempted to address the situation another way, and through increments.

1. Recognizing that indoctrination had removed the primary requisites for a successful college experience (i.e., the 3rs), colleges were being overburdened with students tremendously incapacitated to deal with college level inquiry and research. Such students, having received high marks in the primary and secondary levels, were livid, claiming various forms of discrimination, placing said outrage upon college administrators and professors, were understandably feeling betrayed by the high standards of college. And college faculty were being stressed by having to supply endless "remedial ed" coursework for highschool graduates, endless counseling to mitigate the fury, shock, and dismay of such students. CA conservatives proferred "outreach" to such highschool campuses where known "passing the buck" of education was occurring. These were not quotas, but outreach. And curriculum was designed to fast track these students into the basic elements of education (3rs) while said student was in fact in a pre-req class. At same time, educational benchmarks discussion went into high fury between the left and right at all levels. Overall, the synthesis of approach was to address all levels of education, in a pinch, for redress.

The "No Child Left Behind" Act is harsh to some, beneficial to others; it certainly infuriates the left, given, that they will lose funds should they use indoctrinating curriculum instead of those which solidly educate in non-victimizing ways.

In summary, after David Horowitz' initiative, the Educational Elite retaliated by offering an "educational freedom" initiative which preserved moreso the rights of Marxist instructors, then actually offered fairness to those of any other flavor. Nonetheless, in the ensuing years, more and more educational variety is appearing on campuses. The left gets more screechy, and rails about how they are being "silenced" and "censored". When, in fact, they are upset that they are losing their special tyrannical position in education.

111 posted on 01/22/2007 4:57:04 AM PST by Alia
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To: 2ndClassCitizen
I do not disagree with your expressed opinions about race and racism, in post. I've seen and heard much the same.

But, having followed this case from onset, I disagree that the Duke boys were "drunken testosterone filled, athletic jocks". Yes, there were alcoholic beverages present. I've seen not an iota of evidence which suggests the boys were drunk. I've seen ample evidence that CGM was not of a sober bearing whether results from drugs and/or a combination of drugs/pills.

Frankly, and IME, I've seen much more violence coming from children in the K-12 levels of over-prescribed ritilin-like drugs; but hardly the outcry from "community" members over such erratic behaviors in the young.

Secondarily, I find it silly of those who wish to place the blame squarely on "jocks who drink". lol. As most college administrators posit: The college levels are a place for inquiry. And deep research. One could just as readily posit the Duke boys were following that prescribed mantra to a T. Should the same "morally outraged" writers opine upon students who engage in trashing pro-Republican signs and offices during elections? Not a word, ever. Do they opine upon those who block traffic just to make a "social justice" statement? No. Do they ever stand up for those students in politically correct classrooms who are grade-punished and/or vilified in classrooms? No.

Silly is as silly does.

If CGM had not made up these heinous lies, no one anywhere would have known or commented upon "jocks drinking". It's just a stupid out for the pretend moral "outrage-ives".

The Klan was about - power and money. The NAACP is no different. To fool the simples into believing it was about "skin color": "Pay attention to the pot; but not the kettle".

It's newer name is "by any means necessary"; and finally, aptly coined.

112 posted on 01/22/2007 5:10:19 AM PST by Alia
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To: Jezebelle
They forgot to add that all earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions are also the fault of "Western men".

At the time of her writing, the Marxists hadn't thought of that one, yet. ;>

113 posted on 01/22/2007 5:11:43 AM PST by Alia
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To: DMZFrank
LOL! We are in perfect accord, DMZFrank, over witnessing the beginning of an end of a ugly time in America, no?

And, but that we must stay vigilant and hardworking in the vineyards. It may not reach full fruition in our lifetimes, but so it goes. The work is there, let it be done.

114 posted on 01/22/2007 5:14:32 AM PST by Alia
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To: abb


Innocent Duke lacrosse players stuck in P.C. nightmare
(http://www.suntimes.com/news/laney/222495,CST-EDT-LANEY22.article)

January 22, 2007

BY MARY LANEY

If I were one of the parents of the Duke lacrosse players I would be mad as hell right now. Those parents have been put through the wringer for seven months -- and forced to come up with God knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to protect their sons from what appear to be made-up accusations.

Their sons have been called racists and rapists and violent spoiled frat boys and more. Why? Because a black stripper accused the white boys of rape and an ambitious district attorney, running for office in Durham, N.C., saw the case that could bring him the winning votes from African Americans.

I have two sons and, had this nightmare happened to them, I would be going after not only the district attorney but some Duke professors and the university president as well. They put political correctness before due process in the railroading of these young Duke students.

Charles Osgood of CBS News once said, "Being politically correct is always having to say you're sorry." And some members of the faculty of Duke University were very politically correct last year. As soon as the now dubious claims of rape were leveled, 88 professors wrote an open letter decrying racism, sexism and sexual violence on that campus. They urged the student body to get out and let their voices be heard.

The president of Duke, being equally P.C., fired the lacrosse coach, suspended the players from school and canceled the rest of the championship lacrosse season -- all before a trial was held.

Meanwhile, the alleged victim was telling various stories. First, she told police she had been raped by a big group. Next, she told a nurse it had been three or five men.

The event hit the airwaves with the speed of a raging fire.

Well, the Durham district attorney set up a "lineup" of pictures for the alleged victim to identify those who she said raped her. Such lineups, by law, are supposed to include some pictures of uninvolved people. But that's not how the acting district attorney of Durham did it. You see, Mike Nifong was running for election to the office, and wanted a strong case. So he gave the woman only pictures of members of the Duke lacrosse team -- in effect, a multiple choice test where there could be no wrong answers.

She picked three of the lacrosse players.

Nifong then sent all fluids taken from the woman at the hospital, along with her clothes, to a lab for DNA testing. The lab technician told the district attorney that he found DNA from several men in the woman and in her pants, but that none of it matched any Duke lacrosse player. In fact, there was no DNA from any lacrosse player anywhere in or on this woman nor on her clothing. Despite this, the district attorney kept the information secret even from defense attorneys, and days later indicted the three Duke players for rape.

Last month, the victim told the district attorney that she couldn't tell if she had actually been raped. Nifong then dropped the rape charges, but held that the three Duke players would still be tried for kidnapping and sexual charges.

To recap, the victim has changed her story several times and now says she isn't sure she was raped. The "lineup" where the lacrosse players were identified was illegal. The DNA taken from the woman excluded all Duke lacrosse players. The district attorney had the DNA evidence before he indicted the players, but withheld this evidence from the defense, and later lied about it in court, but still refused to drop all charges against the players.

Now Nifong has recused himself from the case and the North Carolina attorney general has appointed a special prosecutor to take his place. Meanwhile, the parents of the young men still have to pay lawyers to represent their sons against charges that should have been dropped months ago or never brought at all.

I'd be mad as hell if I were one of these parents. I hope they sue everyone involved in this railroading of justice.



115 posted on 01/22/2007 5:22:17 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: abb
I've known first-hand the fury and indignation of the parents of the Duke LaCrosse players. And when one has been through the fire more than one or two times, one sees that which isn't clear, perhaps, to others:

Political Correctness raises a "bar" by which to empower with funds the leftwing Lawyers Operations. The Democrats, most often, the recipients of "donations" from the various leftwing based "enterprises" are then used as stats in the articles and presses regarding "creating a good economy" by the Democrats.

Years ago, some illegals in Florida got caught in a crime. These illegals got off (using leftwing lawyers, ACLU-matrixed) and won their case against the State of Florida. The illegals sued the Florida taxpayers for $400K per illegal, and won. Said illegals then turned right around and "donated" most of that money to left-wing race-based groups who then used said money to hire more of their own kind and do press releases and help design pub ed curriculum and medical insurance/coverage laws, ad nauseum.

It's right out of their 60s singsong: Up against the Wall, RedNecked Mother..." A natural result: Create a chimera, raid and redistribute the coffers.

But never call *that*: holding down and raping.

116 posted on 01/22/2007 5:30:37 AM PST by Alia
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To: All

http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/01/22/News/Leading.Under.Fire-2657127.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com&mkey=2507178

Leading under fire
Amid a crumbling legal case, has Duke's embattled president walked the right path?
David Graham
Posted: 1/22/07
Other than Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong and the three men he charged with rape, sexual offense and kidnapping, no one has come under more intense scrutiny in the lacrosse scandal than President Richard Brodhead.

A series of public statements and the resignation of English Professor Karla Holloway this month from her post on the Campus Culture Initiative have once again brought Brodhead's actions to the fore-actions he said have been guided from the start by one simple idea.

"If you want to know what my strategy has been for dealing with this, it's been to try to do what was right, try to figure out what principles were involved-the principle of respect for evidence, the principle of taking seriously the community issues, the principle of presumption of innocence and due process-and fashion a response that tries to honor those principles," Brodhead said in an interview Friday.


117 posted on 01/22/2007 5:34:37 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Alia
One year notice of nonrenewal. Is this to give the college time to find the replacement? One year's notice: to allow said professor to remedy and or negotiate/sue?

We are on contracts or at least nontenured people are on contracts. BTW a tenured person does not even get a formal annual contract and an adjunct does not have a contract because they are hired ad hoc course by course. Our department hiring for August 2007 is going on now and began in Nov. We hired one person in my department prior to Christman break.

The idea is to as you say give the university time to find a replacement and the person who generally is not being let go for cause time to seek a new position. It is basically notice to a nontenured person your contract will not be picked up. Also keep in mind, you hire people, other than adjuncts, from around the country. People do not uproot themselves and more across the country without a contract. Why would a UCLA new PhD come to say Indiana University if at the end of one semester they could dump them?
118 posted on 01/22/2007 8:02:46 AM PST by JLS
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To: Alia; All

"Now, the WilmingtonJournal article "We're Watching YOU MR. COOPER", make a great deal more sense, no?"

So, the "Duke Three" as the WilmingtonJournal commonly refers to the Wrongly Accused, are the Reparational Great White Hope!

It looks like Cash Michaels is the author of the "Mr. Cooper" article, as he replied directly to my posts regarding it. He also seems not to like being called out regarding his racist and extortionist views and tactics. Check out this exchange b/w Cash and I (nothing but non-answers and personal attacks):

Round 1

From Cash's letter:
"Our goal is to seek justice and truth while respecting the rights of everyone involved. We accept these cases with our eyes wide open to the evidence but with blinders on to all other distractions."

GbA to Cash:
Without question!
So, do you or do you not realize that he rightly and justifiably should be ignoring you, despite the clearly extortionist tone of your letter?

Cash to GbA:
Should you be cleaning up Army mess or something?

Round 2

From Cash's letter:
"After all, as a Democrat, just like Mike Nifong, you need the Black vote for any future political aspirations."

GbA to Cash:
Ah yes, the Democratic Party: the party of George Wallace. Did you know that Lincoln, "The Emancipator" himself, was a Republican?
When will the "African-American Community" wake up to the fact that it is -- as it has been for 40 years -- the Democratic Party's tool?

Cash to GbA:
Maybe when you wake up to the fact that the truth of this case will be determined in a court of law, not the cesspool of the blogs and message boards. Any other good questions?

Round 3

From Cash's letter:
"You have to be willing to also charge anyone else who may have committed a crime (like who went into the accuser?s bag and took the $400.00 in cash she was just paid? After careful and deliberate research of laws in at least 80 nations, including this one, we believe that that?s generally called a ROBBERY!!!)"

GbA to Cash:
Don't forget the other $1,600 she made earlier that evening taking sperm donations at the NCCU frat party, that make up the entire $2,000 Crystal claimed to have had stolen from her!
BTW, nothing perverted about that, I suppose?

Cash to GbA:
When you stop getting your erroneous information from Archie comics, maybe we'll dignify your missive with a response.

Round 4:
GbA to Cash:
Touched a few raw nerves, did I? I'd love to be able to answer your questions, but my Ebonics is weak, so please bear with me.
I am not familiar with the term "Army mess." What do you mean by it?
So, Archie has weighed-in on this too? Sheesh! Since you seem to be the authority on Crystal's ever-changing recollections, can you please tell me if there's any truth to the rumors that her next version is going to implicate Elvis, Jughead?
Truth is not determined in a Court of Law. Sadly, such outcomes are limited to the determination of guilt or not thereof, which sometimes belies truth (see: The People of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson).
Lastly, we haven't heard much lately from the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton lately on this subject. I suppose they have distanced themselves so as to limit any potential Civil liability arising from their earlier slanderous, race-baiting remarks.
By the way, is the Rainbow Coalition Scholarship/Jackpot still in play?

No response to these points from Cash (The entire exchange took place on Thursday, 4 days ago). Go figure...


119 posted on 01/22/2007 8:13:51 AM PST by Guilty by Association (Stop the Durham FARCE perpetrated by the FRAUD Attorney!)
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To: KeyLargo
Because a .... stripper accused the .... boys of rape and an ambitious district attorney, running for office in Durham, N.C., saw the case that could bring him the winning votes ...

She got half the essence of the case. Every single summary sentence on this case needs to say, A stripper TO AVOID INVOLUNTARY COMMITMENT cried rape and an appointed DA who was about to lose turned used it to turn the tides of the election to his favor.

Notice I removed the racial adjectives from the quote above. This information is of course necessary, if one wants to discuss the polical correctness aspects of the community behavior, press coverage etc. But in general the racial component is the the crux of the situation. [Heck the gangsters of 88 might well have acted the same way to defend any sex worker against their evil students.]

Nifong certainly would have acted regardless of race, if he thought the votes were there. Mangum likely would have reacted the same way. In fact her past two false accusations were against black people. I think many people lose sight of the point that race only mattered to people on the edges of this case stirring things up.
120 posted on 01/22/2007 8:25:31 AM PST by JLS
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