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Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?
BBC NEWS ^ | Saturday, January 20, 2007 | Richard Allen Greene

Posted on 01/20/2007 9:18:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Hillary Clinton has finally announced that she is considering running for president in 2008 - a declaration anticipated for the past six years that puts a heavyweight contender into the race.

Senator Clinton has already made history by becoming the first former First Lady to be elected to public office.

But all thoughts will now turn to whether the New York Democrat really has what it takes to become the first woman president of the United States.

It would be foolish to dismiss a woman who sits on an enormous war chest and is backed by some of the best political strategists in the country.

But it would be equally unwise to bet that the US will elect a woman president when the country is at war - much less one who is already reviled by a substantial minority of Americans for her perceived liberalism and association with Bill Clinton.

Warning to Republicans

Mark Corallo, a Republican strategist, reckons she has a good chance of capturing the White House in 2008 - and says he is constantly warning friends against underestimating her.

"Every time a Republican tells me: 'We want [to run against] Hillary', I say: 'Be careful what you wish for'.

"There is no other candidate on either side of the equation that has the instant party organisation and the ability to raise an enormous amount of money.

"She has the two most formidable strategists in the Democratic Party - Terry McAuliffe and Harold Ickes," Mr Corallo says before correcting himself: "No, three, because Bill Clinton is the most formidable. The guy is brilliant."

Mr Corallo, co-owner of the consultancy Corallo Comstock, says only one Democrat could take the party's nomination away from Senator Clinton: Barack Obama, the first-term senator from Illinois.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; hillary; hillaryclinton
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1 posted on 01/20/2007 9:18:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

No.


2 posted on 01/20/2007 9:20:18 PM PST by JennysCool (If your attitude's appalling, there's a latitude that's calling)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh... my... god. Can these guys be *any* more up the democratic/clinton butt ? Bill 'brilliant' !? Good lord.


3 posted on 01/20/2007 9:24:24 PM PST by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think she can win. Look how close the loathsome Kerry came. It won't take much to put a Dem over the top in 2008. Kerry and Hillary are the two people it would be most painful to see as Commander-in-Chief of the military. Kerry is done but I think Hillary has an excellent chance.


4 posted on 01/20/2007 9:25:12 PM PST by carola
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To: JennysCool
No.

Hell no!

5 posted on 01/20/2007 9:26:21 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well, Her Royal Heinous could win a "dog-faced boy" contest.


6 posted on 01/20/2007 9:27:31 PM PST by quark
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nope!!


7 posted on 01/20/2007 9:28:12 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

yes, she can win.

demographic trends are moving against the Rs, especially if they nominate some "litmus test pure" conservative.


8 posted on 01/20/2007 9:29:10 PM PST by oceanview
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bush,Clinton,Clinton,Bush,Bush......Clinton?
I think NOT. American will finally find a way
to "just say NO". The only thing more absurd than that scenario would be if somehow Jeb Bush got in the race and
won the nomination, and it was between them. Ain't gonna happen either way.


9 posted on 01/20/2007 9:30:23 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: MinorityRepublican

YES. SHE CAN WIN.

DO NOT underestimate her.

She has legions of demonic forces from hell in support of her; evidently most of or all the globalists . . . who have also firm control over the next 3-4 front runners in both the GOP and DIMRAT camps.

But she is the absolute worst possible creature to win the PResidency. She'd make Hitler look like a choir boy.

McChurian is little better but significantly less evil.

And Guillani is significantly better than McChurian but far from wonderful.


10 posted on 01/20/2007 9:30:24 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: MinorityRepublican

YES. SHE CAN WIN.

DO NOT underestimate her.

And Obammama is about as bad as she is in values but somewhat slicker, more naive and less seasoned at being evil.


11 posted on 01/20/2007 9:31:13 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: quark

The MSM, ALL THE GOVERNMENT MONEY DISPENSING AGENCIES; THE UNIVERSITIES; THE ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA . . .

ALL ARE FULL of sychophants eager to lick her . . . toes in support.


12 posted on 01/20/2007 9:32:31 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: MinorityRepublican
My Democratic friends tell me they don't want Hillery to run because she is 1) probably not able to win, and 2) is too divisive. They are hoping a more acceptable person without the high negatives becomes the party's nominee.
13 posted on 01/20/2007 9:33:25 PM PST by raftguide
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To: MinorityRepublican

I do not think that America is ready for a woman president, and especially not a Hillary! (TM) She may have buckets and buckets of $$$ but I think that out of necessity she's going to have to take positions too moderate for the screaming leftwingers of the democrat party.


14 posted on 01/20/2007 9:42:56 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Growing old isn't so bad, especially when you consider the alternative!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hillary Clinton has finally announced that she is considering running for president in 2008 ...

Considering? LOL Real decisive ain't she?

15 posted on 01/20/2007 9:44:23 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment you don't understand America.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

**Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?**

No, she won't even win the primary.


16 posted on 01/20/2007 9:44:41 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: quark

The fact that she stayed with Bill's antics, lies, affairs and abuse of government tells us all we need to know about her.


17 posted on 01/20/2007 9:45:17 PM PST by Loud Mime ("She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Theresawithanh

Wouldn't it be delicious, though, if a strong 3rd party candidate the moonbats go for comes along and siphons off votes? Mmmmmmmm!


18 posted on 01/20/2007 9:46:20 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Growing old isn't so bad, especially when you consider the alternative!)
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To: quark

19 posted on 01/20/2007 9:47:43 PM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
declaration anticipated for the past six years that puts a heavyweight contender into the race

More jokes about her thighs.

20 posted on 01/20/2007 9:53:21 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: MinorityRepublican

Of course she can win. There are too many obtuse people in our society. Dimwitted souls who can't name their U.S. Senators but who have exhaustive knowledge of the "American Idol" competition or the names of celebrity offspring. Hillary Clinton is demonic. I am convinced of that.


21 posted on 01/20/2007 9:56:31 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: carola
She most certainly can win and will win if the GOP doesn't support a candidate ,Rudy, who can beat her.
22 posted on 01/20/2007 10:00:25 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: carola
There is NO GOOD conservative Republican running, and the Lefties will come out in droves (especially the multi-voters and the illegals) to make sure the mean ol' Republicans don't "steal the elections like in 2000 and 2004).

Likewise, you will hear the mantra of "Diebold" and Dis-enfranchised over and over from now until Nov.

23 posted on 01/20/2007 10:00:54 PM PST by traditional1
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To: MinorityRepublican
She can win if we don't get a guy who can really articulate the message, and if she seduces enough suckers and gets everyone else to splinter up against each other.

Guess it is those variables in the POTUS election dynamic that worry me.

W.
24 posted on 01/20/2007 10:07:44 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Senators rarely win. NONE in recent history.
A liberal senator will lessen the chances more.
I just do not see Hildabeast appealing to people MORE then Kerry did.

I hope the dems are stupid enough to go with another liberal senator. Hildabeast brings with her all the stinking baggage of her past too.

So... A senator, a liberal, a Clinton. Strike THREE, Yer out.


25 posted on 01/20/2007 10:43:29 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: carola
I think she can win. Look how close the loathsome Kerry came.

Well, the only reasons he got as many votes as he did was that he had the "anybody but Bush" vote going on (so the radical left who would normally vote for Nader or someone end up going with him). Because there won't be a Bush this time, the Dems won't have that factor anymore.

Although to be honest, I'd say right now it's impossible to say what's going to happen between now and November 2008.

26 posted on 01/20/2007 10:48:04 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: MinorityRepublican


Unfortunately - yes. She wouldn't be running if she didn't.


27 posted on 01/20/2007 10:57:00 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don't see her winning.


28 posted on 01/20/2007 10:58:25 PM PST by mysterio
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To: oceanview

Rudy would crush her...


As for the rest of the GOP wannabes ....as they said in the movie "Casino"

"Why take a chance?"


29 posted on 01/20/2007 11:00:29 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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All the evidence of her 'damaged goods' status have to be brought out onto the open in the light of day where she can be seen for what she is by ALL the voters.


30 posted on 01/20/2007 11:03:53 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: MinorityRepublican

Provided she wins her dreadful party's nomination, of course she can win the presidential election and IMO it'll take star power to defeat her.


31 posted on 01/20/2007 11:04:28 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: Loud Mime

There are several aspects to a Hillary presidency.

First...from a temper grading of the past 20-odd presidents...she would have the highest rating. I doubt that the presidential press secretary selected on day one...stays more than six months.

Second...between her husband and handlers...the cabinet posts will be extreme pay-offs. There will be characters there that you'd think could never be brought into the federal government.

Third...within 30 days of assuming the presidency...the majority of the Pentagon "six" (the generals who matter)...will resign. You can guess the reasons...but they are history by the end of the first 30 days.

Fourth...old Bill will go right back to various affairs and hotties. Hillary will have the FBI doing double-duty in terms of holding him at bay and forcing a witness in every room that he is attending.

Fifth...the friendly relationship with Pelosi will end within six months...and the two will absolutely hate to be in the same room together.

Sixth...the US military will be directed to leave various countries...from South Korea to all of Europe. It won't be immedate but by the fourth and final year of the Hillary period...it will be obvious what the repositioning direction is.

Seventh...presidential decree will be used twice as much as any former president.

Eight...President Hillary will eventually close off the press because they are asking too many stupid questions. Even Jon Stewart will become a major enemy of the White House. And that Colbert guy....he will enemy number one.

Ninth...after four years of Hillary...there will be a simmering effect on the public and the media. And out of the ashes...will rise Jeb Bush to lead us out of the darkness in 2012.

Tenth...and final...Bill will divorce Hillary after 2012 and marry some 20-year old intern named Buffy and settle down in southern California. Hillary will retire to Baltimore and write a legacy book and do alot of CNN interviews with Larry King.


32 posted on 01/20/2007 11:19:59 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
Hillary will retire to Baltimore

Why Baltimore?

Ninth...after four years of Hillary...there will be a simmering effect on the public and the media. And out of the ashes...will rise Jeb Bush to lead us out of the darkness in 2012.

I would vote for Jeb Bush right now. He's easily the most qualifed candidate for President.

33 posted on 01/20/2007 11:36:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Well, I guarantee you she thinks she can.
34 posted on 01/20/2007 11:41:27 PM PST by RichInOC (Hillary! 2008: Why Not The Beest?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The minority doesn't like her? Funny, I thought it was most everyone. Even the ones that say they do.


35 posted on 01/20/2007 11:43:26 PM PST by freekitty
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To: MinorityRepublican

Off-topic, maybe? Jeb Bush will never get my vote. I do believe he had the power, as the governor of FL, to prevent the starvation death of Terri Schiavo. We need a president with good common sense, ethics, and guts.


36 posted on 01/21/2007 12:01:13 AM PST by IIntense
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To: Quix
It gags me to even think of her as POTUS, but I'm 999.9% convinced she has it in the bag.

For two terms even.

37 posted on 01/21/2007 12:09:37 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Vote Hillary CLINTON - Craig LIVINGSTONE 2008!

It's the perfect ticket. ;)


38 posted on 01/21/2007 12:29:00 AM PST by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: investigateworld

Hope you're wrong. Sure you do, also. But what if? Do we make like Alec Baldwim, for one, and "leave" the country?


39 posted on 01/21/2007 12:34:43 AM PST by IIntense
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hillary will when and Bill Richards will be the VP. It gives them a Hispanic, New Mexico and experiance in Washington.


40 posted on 01/21/2007 12:35:50 AM PST by poinq
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To: poinq

A Hispanic and a woman? Sorry but that doesn't go together.


41 posted on 01/21/2007 1:18:36 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

She can win if the Republicans don't get their head out of their butt!


42 posted on 01/21/2007 1:35:33 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: carola

Good point about Kerry.

I think she can win too. The only hope I have is that she can't really stand the heat. She still has never had to face tough questions anywhere.

But, I am trying to brace myself in case the wrost happens.


43 posted on 01/21/2007 1:39:03 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

She won't win because I believe the entire country has Bush/Clinton fatigue - those two families have dominated US politics for the past 20 years. It's time for new leadership.


44 posted on 01/21/2007 3:34:14 AM PST by Dr Thompson (No)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke

45 posted on 01/21/2007 3:39:43 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: MinorityRepublican
She will never get our vote

She can count on the loons in the GENERAL election

So it comes down to the Independent/3rd party voters

Will they vote for her? .. Will they stay home? ... Or will they split the vote and go 3rd party?

Think of the 1992 and 1996 Election and she can very will win in 2008

DO NOT under estimate this witch
46 posted on 01/21/2007 3:51:15 AM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: carola

'Loathesome Kerry' issued a statement to the effect that he has no timetable for his presidential announcement plans. He's waiting for Obama to implode and Hill's negatives to sink her once and for all. Will never forget C-Span one night last January. Kerry groveling to NH dem party faithful. Short speech, not many in the audience. Lackluster applause, if any. The second he shut up, the room emptied as if someone had yelled FIRE! He roamed around trying to shake hands, but was able to trap very few who were desperately running for the door. All caught on camera. C-Span replayed it at two AM, and I got up to watch it again. Hilarious.


47 posted on 01/21/2007 3:54:56 AM PST by hershey
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To: onyx
Provided she wins her dreadful party's nomination, of course she can win the presidential election and IMO it'll take star power to defeat her.

Perusing over at the DUmmies, there are a LOT of people who don't like her. Her detractors consider her in the pockets of corporate America, a big sin if you want to hold the Rat banner. The question is, if she gets the nomination, will more of her party's voters swallow hard and vote for her anyway, than will have to do the same over on our side? We don't have anybody yet who most people can accept, let alone get excited by.

Obama does have star power, even if it is only the sort of meaningless media adulation that they shower on naughty celebrities. I'm hoping that he becomes the anti-Hillary, the rest fade away quickly, and she defeats him only after getting very nasty and dirty. With the eventual Republican nominee most likely being someone that the majority of the conservatives are not going to like, we need far more pissed off Rat voters willing to go third party in November, 2008, than will stay home and not vote for a McCain or Giuliani.

48 posted on 01/21/2007 3:59:53 AM PST by hunter112
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To: MinorityRepublican

absolutely

the last 2 elections were in small % differences

there will be enough of novelty act votes that will push the thing over

and whomever dangles free stuff wins

free healtcare
free mommy care
free oil
free everything


49 posted on 01/21/2007 4:45:00 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: MinorityRepublican

She can win if conservatives get focused on some candidate that can't win, and then stay home on election day when he or she isn't chosen as the Republican nominee. I confess I helped put the Clintons into power in 1992 by voting for Perot as a protest candidate, and will not make that mistake ever again.


50 posted on 01/21/2007 5:03:21 AM PST by Moonmad27
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