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Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?
BBC NEWS ^ | Saturday, January 20, 2007 | Richard Allen Greene

Posted on 01/20/2007 9:18:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Hillary Clinton has finally announced that she is considering running for president in 2008 - a declaration anticipated for the past six years that puts a heavyweight contender into the race.

Senator Clinton has already made history by becoming the first former First Lady to be elected to public office.

But all thoughts will now turn to whether the New York Democrat really has what it takes to become the first woman president of the United States.

It would be foolish to dismiss a woman who sits on an enormous war chest and is backed by some of the best political strategists in the country.

But it would be equally unwise to bet that the US will elect a woman president when the country is at war - much less one who is already reviled by a substantial minority of Americans for her perceived liberalism and association with Bill Clinton.

Warning to Republicans

Mark Corallo, a Republican strategist, reckons she has a good chance of capturing the White House in 2008 - and says he is constantly warning friends against underestimating her.

"Every time a Republican tells me: 'We want [to run against] Hillary', I say: 'Be careful what you wish for'.

"There is no other candidate on either side of the equation that has the instant party organisation and the ability to raise an enormous amount of money.

"She has the two most formidable strategists in the Democratic Party - Terry McAuliffe and Harold Ickes," Mr Corallo says before correcting himself: "No, three, because Bill Clinton is the most formidable. The guy is brilliant."

Mr Corallo, co-owner of the consultancy Corallo Comstock, says only one Democrat could take the party's nomination away from Senator Clinton: Barack Obama, the first-term senator from Illinois.

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To: MinorityRepublican

Please, Lord, NO!


51 posted on 01/21/2007 5:05:27 AM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

She is going to win.

Due to the fact that no one in the republican party has bigger balls than she does. No one...


52 posted on 01/21/2007 5:07:48 AM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Yes.

Repubs are weak, plus Osama/Hitlary will automatically get the NE, steal several States in the upper/lower mid-west, and automatically get Cali. plus other west coast States.

Dems are getting pretty close to overcoming the South.

Of course voters are to blame since everyone wants the government to wipe their butts for them. Sadly limited government is dead which is why Osama/Hitlary could win.
53 posted on 01/21/2007 5:21:33 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yes she can and likely will win.

Because the GOP does not have a candidate that can beat her. The RINO's won't get the conservative vote and the conservatives don't have anyone with star power (or for that matter name recognition).

The good news is that with a Clinton presidency and a liberal Congress this country will go down the tubes over her first term. That gives an opoortunity for a true conservative to position himself as someone ready to make the tough choices neccessary to restore the Republic.


54 posted on 01/21/2007 5:22:50 AM PST by tfelice
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To: MinorityRepublican

"heavyweight contender" I wouldn't call her fat.


55 posted on 01/21/2007 5:22:56 AM PST by exnavy (God means love, not hate.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If limited government is dead the only ones to blame are the GOP who has held power for 12 years. The Dems surely were never for it - the GOP only talked liked they were for it, but governed like little socialists.

Limited government is alive and well in the hearts and minds of Americans. It will take a true leader to bring it back to the forefront. And I believe that leader will not come from the GOP, but from the outside. The GOP frankly has lost all credibility regarding limited government.
56 posted on 01/21/2007 5:26:44 AM PST by tfelice
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To: tfelice
The good news is that with a Clinton presidency and a liberal Congress this country will go down the tubes over her first term.

The same was said of Clinton 42.

57 posted on 01/21/2007 5:34:55 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: tfelice

Limited govenrnment was wounded in 1913/Wilson's Presidency and FDR's reign was the killing blow.

LBJ/Nixon poked sticks in it to make sure it was dead.

We need to start over which is impossible right now.


58 posted on 01/21/2007 5:36:33 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The same was said of Clinton 42

Right. And the GOP won control of Congress for the first time in 40 years under Clinton's watch. It's a shame that the GOP blew it though.
59 posted on 01/21/2007 5:38:08 AM PST by tfelice
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To: All

YOU ALL IGNORE SIMPLE MATH

First, we know the balance between the two parties is fairly even.

The sad truth is that a Hillary/Obama or Hillary/Richardson ticket will bring out millions of previous non-voters based only on their gender/race. That is enough to tip the balance. Period.

Hillary's VP selection will be based on the Republican candidate. If someone like Tancredo is the nominee, Hillary will pick Richardson. Anyone soft on immigration and Hillary will pick Obama.


60 posted on 01/21/2007 5:39:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
so if she does win ...does it mean the beginning of the end times........


61 posted on 01/21/2007 5:43:01 AM PST by Gone_Postal (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..right next to the mashed potatoes)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A couple of years ago, Barbara Bush predicted that Hillary would win the Democrat nomination for President, but wouldn't win the election. I hope she is right, especially about NOT winning the Presidential seat.


62 posted on 01/21/2007 5:45:41 AM PST by Humal
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To: rollo tomasi
I'm glad that I don't have a defeatist attitude.

It's not impossible. We just need the right guy, someone from outside the two party system, that can be a leader.

I have said for a while now the best bet for conservatives is to leave the GOP en masse and join or form a third party. Only something of that magnitude will allow the message of conservatism to be heard and allow new faces to be shown as leaders of the movement.
63 posted on 01/21/2007 5:45:50 AM PST by tfelice
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To: carola
Kerry is done but I think Hillary has an excellent chance.

Hillary is Repulsive.

Saw that on a bumper sticker the other day.

It about sums things up, dont it?

64 posted on 01/21/2007 6:04:15 AM PST by Edit35
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To: MinorityRepublican
Of course she can win! Look how close that complete doofus, Kerry, came. All she needs is to hold the 2004 states and pick up one or two more. That will be easy in today's toxic political climate.

I give her a 60-40 chance to win. There will be an all out media assault for her. "Campaign Finance" will prevent almost any organized criticism of her - except from the "official" organs of the hapless, flaccid GOP - for 60 days prior to November. In other words, from the nominating conventions onward it will be a Coronation. By that time the MSM will have done a "Foley" on the GOP nominee.

She'll win in a walk.

65 posted on 01/21/2007 6:07:58 AM PST by Gritty (If Hillary wins the Presidency, I'm leaving the country - Dick Morris)
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To: farlander
Bill 'brilliant' !? Good lord.

Oh yeah. Arranging to run against Poppy and Bob Dole were masterstrokes.

66 posted on 01/21/2007 6:10:39 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mo1

i always say it depends on the republican nominee. i know many republicans who would not vote for a candidate like guiliani. he is a social liberal.

If the republicans do not nominate a social conservative - IT'S OVER.


67 posted on 01/21/2007 6:13:04 AM PST by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Can Mrs. Clinton win?

Yes.

I no longer underestimate the collusion between the Democrats and the MSM, or its power over the American citizen.

I pray we unify and beat this threat to America back to the stone age.


68 posted on 01/21/2007 6:13:41 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Tzimisce
Unfortunately - yes. She wouldn't be running if she din't.

That has been my contention. This is not just some grandiose fantasy like Biden or Kucinich or Hagel or Huckabee. Hillary is not one to set herself up for public humiliation or repudiation. She did that to get BillyBoy elected and she won't be doing it again. If she tests the waters and stays in, we got trouble in River City. Beware the security Mom and her sweet reason.

69 posted on 01/21/2007 6:22:33 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?

I hope not! She's done nothing for New York. Why would anyone expect more from her if she ran the country? How would she be as Commander-In-Chief when she flip flops all the time and makes choices based on polls?


70 posted on 01/21/2007 6:34:47 AM PST by CTSeditor
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To: raftguide
They are hoping a more acceptable person without the high negatives becomes the party's nominee..

But they will slavishly line up and vote for her anyway. In the meantime, Hillary is designing her campaign specifically to mellow out the negatives. By summer of 2008, after a year of the media calling her a "moderate," "centrist" even "conservative" the average schlub will be saying "Hey she's fine. Don't know why those republicans hate her so much. They just don't want a woman for president.".

71 posted on 01/21/2007 6:36:40 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Erik Latranyi
we know the balance between the two parties is fairly even... The sad truth is that a Hillary/Obama or Hillary/Richardson ticket will bring out millions of previous non-voters based only on their gender/race. That is enough to tip the balance. Period.

This can not be denied. She is confident that the race is hers to loose.

72 posted on 01/21/2007 6:38:29 AM PST by alrea
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To: sit-rep
She is going to win. Due to the fact that no one in the republican party has bigger balls than she does. No one...

Heh. Earthy way of putting it, but succinct and to the point.

73 posted on 01/21/2007 6:42:25 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MinorityRepublican

I hate to say this but she could very well win!

The Democrats will vote out of loyalty regardless who is heading the ticket! Kerry almost made it thru. It didn't take much for Bill to get even in the minority side. Then there is Jimmah Carter!

Loyalty is the factor!

How loyal are the Republicans? How about the conservatives?

We may have trouble here!


74 posted on 01/21/2007 6:47:29 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (A good Muslim is a nonexistent being!)
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To: CTSeditor
She's done nothing for New York. Why would anyone expect more from her if she ran the country

The media line is already clear, ie, that she has been so attentive to taking care of her constituents that she even won the Bush counties upstate. Of course the upstate counties are full of bumpkins with stars in their eyes, but the message will be clear: Mother Hillary will take care of us, just like The Ponytail Guy wanted, years ago.

75 posted on 01/21/2007 6:51:05 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MinorityRepublican

You know, I think, you know, that Hillary, you know, stands a good chance, you know, of winning. And you know what I'm talkin' about!


76 posted on 01/21/2007 6:52:50 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: tfelice
I am grounded in reality.

Why am I a "defeatist"? Because of the electorate. Heck, Church friends are clamoring over Hillary. Why, she brings a certain type of "motherhood" to the presidency that we sorely need "so we can stop all this killing."

The phrase which secures growth in government is "It's the electorate stupid".

People want their freebies, how can you stop that, they are the ones that vote.

Only hope is reaching out to the young.
77 posted on 01/21/2007 7:03:33 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: JennysCool

I'll secind that and third that and .......

No, No, No, No, No, No,..................................................................


78 posted on 01/21/2007 7:06:45 AM PST by rambo316 (The Blessed Mother is Queen of heaven and earth.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Heh. Earthy way of putting it, but succinct and to the point.

Yes, I am frowned upon for it from time to time. I gave up tact years ago because it does no good on some/most issues. You're either preaching to the choir, or you're giving the opposition holes they can drive a big truck through.

Call a spade a spade... Saves bandwidth to boot!

79 posted on 01/21/2007 7:19:07 AM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Question: "Can Hillary Clinton win in 2008?"

Answer: Our society may have become sick enough.

80 posted on 01/21/2007 7:22:53 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: CTSeditor
She's done nothing for New York. Why would anyone expect more from her if she ran the country?

What a joke of a comment! Hillary got elected by New Yorkers in a LANDSLIDE.

81 posted on 01/21/2007 7:35:24 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Blackirish

what's unreal is that posters here thing that "vince foster" and related issues, are the way to beat her. none of that is going to work, any voters concerned about those issues - are already voting against her.


82 posted on 01/21/2007 8:41:45 AM PST by oceanview
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hillary Clinton has finally announced that she is considering running for president in 2008 - a declaration anticipated for the past six years that puts a heavyweight contender into the race

The purpose of this article and more to follow---legitamize Hillary.

When she gets the nomination I'll be asking my liberal acquantances/friends where they stand on Hillary's election possibilities and I'll tell those who side with her, in very clear terms, that they are now my enemy, fwiw.

83 posted on 01/21/2007 8:47:26 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: oceanview

Our only chance of taking this thing back is by a Moderate candidate to counter the Democrats shift to the middle.

We have to fight fire with fire. We have no other choice.


84 posted on 01/21/2007 8:52:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: IIntense
Hope you're wrong. Sure you do, also. But what if? Do we make like Alec Baldwim, for one, and "leave" the country?

I pray that I'm wrong!

Nope, I'll just BLOAT and watch and report. I'll try to remember, a loser like Jimmy Carter give us Ronald Reagan, so if the history repeats, we'll see a George Washington level statesmen return.

85 posted on 01/21/2007 9:35:46 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: zwerni
. i know many republicans who would not vote for a candidate like guiliani. he is a social liberal.
If the republicans do not nominate a social conservative - IT'S OVER.

Well then it will be their fault if she wins .. we need those voters to stop her

I myself will vote for whoever the candidate is in the General Election

Our country cannot afford having Hellary and Bill back in the WH

86 posted on 01/21/2007 9:49:14 AM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take what you have and give it to others for the common good.")
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To: zwerni; oceanview
If the republicans do not nominate a social conservative - IT'S OVER.



In this election cycle there is not a social conservative with the star power, competence or charisma to take on Rudy or Romney.....much less Hillary or Obama

The social right should prolly just grow up and face the truth and get behind one of our guys.....but I doubt... it we will get all types of whining..foottstamping
...threats of 3rd parties ....sheeesh
87 posted on 01/21/2007 10:31:15 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: MinorityRepublican

People are tired of Bush/Clinton presidencies.

She could win, but I think that the Dems won't nominate her. They love Bill, but not Hillary. She picked a bad year to run. People want new faces/ideas - she's the establishment/Democrat elitist candidate..... She'd do herself a huge favor by staying in the Senate and building her legacy there. We really don't need two clintons in search of a legacy -


88 posted on 01/21/2007 1:23:06 PM PST by kcbc2001
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To: Erik Latranyi

That's strange because with the 'Rat total domination of all three branches of the government, they failed to institute Socialist Health Care in the United States back in '93.


89 posted on 01/21/2007 1:39:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: oceanview
yes, she can win.

Absolutely. I have no doubt she'll head the ticket with Obama as VP. She absolutely owns the left wing female demographic as well as most radical libs, and Obama will bring in the Black vote and plenty of fringers (including what is known as 'Reagan Democrats' and probably quite a few liberal Pubbies).

Get ready for a very bumpy ride. The Pubbies are like deer caught in the headlights with absolutely no overall strategy I can see to counter the Hillary threat. Our only hope is a moderate like Rudy (I have a problem with that) or a true conservative like Newt (and lots of single-issue 'conservatives' have a problem with that). What with media demonization and a split base, Newt probably can't be elected unless something in the dynamic changes.

The real problem is that there's no such thing as a "conservative vote." We're fractured into several segments that are often at war with each other -- you can see clear evidence of that right here on FR. We got a big taste of that in the past election, with predictable results. If we can't get a unified act together, I'm preparing for at least 8 years of hell on earth.

90 posted on 01/21/2007 1:47:55 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: MinorityRepublican

Gore/Obama will be the Rat ticket for 2008. Hillary will be humiliated in the primaries.


91 posted on 01/21/2007 1:53:27 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

Al Gore haven't announced that he's running for President.


92 posted on 01/21/2007 2:11:48 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: tfelice
...conservatives...leave the GOP en masse...

My bags are packed. Whose going with me? And where?

93 posted on 01/21/2007 10:06:48 PM PST by IIntense
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To: Bernard Marx
We're fractured into several segments that are at war with each other...

True, if you mean Republicans in the White House and Congress have recklessly fractured the trust of conservative voters. Conservative Americans are united on most issues, IMO.

We've been hearing about the Democrats' lack of a plan for a few years, yet they now have the majority in Congress, thanks, in a big way, to our President. Some true conservatives became fed up with this administration and either stayed home or voted for another party.

George Bush won't be running in '08. What we need is a small miracle.

94 posted on 01/21/2007 10:50:05 PM PST by IIntense
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To: IIntense
Conservative Americans are united on most issues, IMO.

If we can't trust the President and Congressmen we elected to represent us, we're in a bad way. I think the one conservative who might stand a real chance is Newt. But I've seen him viciously savaged in this forum for his personal life. Romney really isn't a conservative and as much as I like Duncan Hunter I don't feel he has the national stature to win. I don't consider McCain a conservative: he's done us a lot of serious damage and I doubt I could ever vote for him. He'd make a deal with the Devil if it advanced him personally.

We're as fractured as the Dems were back in the 1970s. I see huge fault lines along such issues as illegal immigration and 'family values' (can we support a divorced candidate or one who has a moderate position on abortion or homosexuality?) The country clubbers (the ones who finance most Pubbie Congressmen) pursue a one-world agenda and ship jobs and entire industries overseas while opening the borders to low-paid illegals and possibly terrorists. Meanwhile other conservatives are losing their jobs to India and China.

The only consolation is that it's still almost two years to the election and lots can happen in that time. But Hillary's got tons of money, a cutthroat campaign organiazation -- and possibly a bunch of FBI files.

95 posted on 01/21/2007 11:38:33 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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