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Del. Hargrove's great-grandfather owned slave
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | January 23, 2007 | BY OLYMPIA MEOLA AND PAMELA STALLSMITH

Posted on 01/23/2007 5:26:07 AM PST by ItMatters2Me

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To: ElectricStrawberry

My grandfather used to run guns to Pancho Villa.
Will that give me some love from La Raza?


121 posted on 01/23/2007 3:06:34 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Anyway,Jews didn't kill Christ.Romans did.


122 posted on 01/23/2007 3:08:26 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: ladyjane

Yes,but most of the black slaveholders were men who were offspring of white slaveholders and slave women.This mulatto elite identified more with their fathers than their mother's people.


123 posted on 01/23/2007 3:11:21 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: ItMatters2Me
Looks like conservatives will have to learn to fight fire with fire.

Send interns to video every public appearance by the opposition. If nothing else, it will rattle them. If you get lucky you just may have a "macaca" moment.

2. Geneologists, private eyes, anything goes. Get the dirt on the liberals. Given their predelictions it should not be all that hard.

124 posted on 01/23/2007 3:15:17 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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To: Riverman94610; stand watie

I've been sleuthing around the net to find some of the earlier posts that I have seen here on FR.

IIRC the early black slave holders were from Africa. Not sure about the later ones.

Is much known about the black slave owners? Surely folks here on FR would know.


125 posted on 01/23/2007 3:34:43 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

The first true slave owner in America was black. His name was Anthony Johnson, (1654), who was granted 250 acres in Northampton County; he convinced the court in Northampton that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, an indentured negro. This was the very first judicial approval of life servitude, ie slavery, except as punishment for a crime. Anthony Johnson was among one of the first groups of Africans brought to America.

Source:Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers' Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378


126 posted on 01/23/2007 4:49:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Riverman94610

Yes, and Frank Hargrove did not own any slaves. What do either have to apologize for? That was his point, I think.


127 posted on 01/24/2007 5:39:06 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey
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To: RegulatorCountry
Your ancestor was truly one of the heroes of the revolutionary war.
128 posted on 01/24/2007 7:46:01 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: painter

Hero might be a little strong. He did what he considered to be his duty, turning out a volunteer several times over a three year period, providing his own horse and firearms. He never held command, he was a mounted soldier and a scout. He was awarded a 150 acre land grant for his service, in addition to a pension in his old age. Now, a genuine hero of his acquaintance in the southern campaign would be John Stokes, who gave far more in service to his country than did my fourth great grandfather; his treatment at the hands of Banastre Tarleton lends much credence to the nickname "Bloody Ban."


129 posted on 01/24/2007 8:11:29 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ladyjane

Well,of course Africa had a long tradition of slavery but it was based on tribal conquest,not on the concept of one race being genetically inferior to the other.
I know that in Louisiana,there was a large mulatto class who often became slaveholders themselves.These mulatoes had pretty negative views of "pure"blacks.I lived in New Orleans in the Seventies and that attitude was very much alive even then.


130 posted on 01/24/2007 11:43:29 AM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

He shouldn't have to apologize for s---.
Still,its not a part of my family past I would be particularly eager to let folks know about.


131 posted on 01/24/2007 11:45:50 AM PST by Riverman94610
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To: RegulatorCountry
150 acre land grant for his service

You might be right,But he didn't have to serve he new the stakes involved and if his side lost he probably would have been "strung up".

By the way is any of the 150 acres still in the family?

132 posted on 01/24/2007 3:46:54 PM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: painter

There are relatives, not close though, who still have some of the land granted, but it's parceled out due to all the children, so it's not intact, and it's not all still in the family. The old homeplace, a two story in the German "double pen" style, built of tremendous chestnut logs, burned down accidentally in 1980, just a year shy of being 200 years old. That was a sad loss, you won't find hardwood logs that big anymore, let alone chestnut logs. My end of the family doesn't own any of the original grant; his youngest son (and my 3G) married into a Quaker family and established himself not far from them a few miles to the north, near the "new" county seat. Close family members still have some of that land.


133 posted on 01/24/2007 4:54:30 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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